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Archewell report by Charity Watch

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BemusedAmerican · 15/03/2024 21:57

It's tax time and Charity Watch is revising charity ratings. Archewell Foundation is now old enough to have a rating:
https://www.charitywatch.org/charity-donating-articles/archewell-foundation-charitywatch-rating

Here is info about Charity Watch for the curious: https://www.charitywatch.org/about-charitywatch/mission-goals

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Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 15/05/2024 09:24

@TheFirmBiscuit

I amazed that an apparently informed person such as yourself had no idea how English inheritance and tax law has always worked. The reason I am not outraged about the Duchy of Lancaster business is because I had the first clue about how this works.

If you didn’t then that is really a you problem. This isn’t news. It’s just that you didn’t know it.

TheFirmBiscuit · 15/05/2024 09:27

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 15/05/2024 09:12

No the poor Nigerians continue to suffer persecution and poverty, while the rich and corrupt hob nob with the grifters. Do keep up.

Which would pretty much sum up any Royal Visit to the majority of Commonwealth countries. Now the Queen has gone I'm not sure what purpsoe it serves anymore - the Queen loved it and put in many a state tour to spread the magic pixie dust to these countries but with Charles and Camilla aging and not in the greatest of health it's future seemingly lies with William and Kate hitting the ground running when they are back in action. Given we live in a much less deferential post-colonial age and the debacle of their Carribean tour it's not looking good. I suspect a lot of the push back against the couple is they have set a pretty high bench mark , often praised by their detractors through gritted teeth and that's the real reason.

From the Petronella Wyatt article I linked up thread. Ardent Royalists may wish to put their tea down before reading....

These days, even Tories like myself are finding it hard to defend the hereditary principle. Personally, I have no taste for republicanism, due to my incapacity for envy. That emotion or weakness is quite absent from my makeup.

In the face of other people’s good fortune, I am as inert as a deaf person at a recital. But a Starmer government will find the fact that the Royal family has more money and more privilege than the rest of us interesting.

I increasingly feel that the future of the Royal family may depend on its ability to cheer the public, and what it lacks now is the requisite joyfulness.

The King and the Princess of Wales are effectively hors de combat, poor Camilla is 76, life bears heavily on William, and no one fancies a Pizza Express.

The Windsors are in grave need of some pizazz. Readers may succumb to the screaming abdabs, but the royal left standing who has most star power is Harry. It is easy to blame him and his puerile book for the continuing rift with his father and brother, but some courtiers of my acquaintance hold William equally liable.

Recently, I spoke to a former palace official who used to work for both princes before the good times stopped rolling. “There is a public misconception about William and Harry,” he told me. “It is William who was often the difficult one, and it is William who is preventing his father from having a proper reconciliation with Harry.” He continued, “This isn’t helpful at a point in time when the country would be buoyed up by seeing them together again, as would the King.”

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 15/05/2024 09:31

Governor Newsome California Archewell

😎it’s all cool.

https://x.com/misanharriman/status/1790631678416650666

TheFirmBiscuit · 15/05/2024 09:32

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 15/05/2024 09:24

@TheFirmBiscuit

I amazed that an apparently informed person such as yourself had no idea how English inheritance and tax law has always worked. The reason I am not outraged about the Duchy of Lancaster business is because I had the first clue about how this works.

If you didn’t then that is really a you problem. This isn’t news. It’s just that you didn’t know it.

Edited

Well that makes me and the Guardian then. The salient point was it thought that these inheritances were used for charitable purposes but in reality only a small fraction was. The rest going to do up his properties to rent out. If that isn't disingenuous grifting I don't know what is and what Archwell is being accused of with no real gotcha evidence as yet that I can se.

TheFirmBiscuit · 15/05/2024 09:36

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 15/05/2024 09:31

Anyone want to apologise he's a good guy btw. For most reasonable people that should be the end of it.

LumiB · 15/05/2024 09:40

TheFirmBiscuit · 15/05/2024 09:36

Anyone want to apologise he's a good guy btw. For most reasonable people that should be the end of it.

Haha you will be dead before anyone on here who also contributed to the pile on apologises.

Inkanta · 15/05/2024 09:50

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 15/05/2024 09:31

All in compliance! A paperwork issue that was wildly over hyped! 😎

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 15/05/2024 09:51

TheFirmBiscuit · 15/05/2024 09:27

Which would pretty much sum up any Royal Visit to the majority of Commonwealth countries. Now the Queen has gone I'm not sure what purpsoe it serves anymore - the Queen loved it and put in many a state tour to spread the magic pixie dust to these countries but with Charles and Camilla aging and not in the greatest of health it's future seemingly lies with William and Kate hitting the ground running when they are back in action. Given we live in a much less deferential post-colonial age and the debacle of their Carribean tour it's not looking good. I suspect a lot of the push back against the couple is they have set a pretty high bench mark , often praised by their detractors through gritted teeth and that's the real reason.

From the Petronella Wyatt article I linked up thread. Ardent Royalists may wish to put their tea down before reading....

These days, even Tories like myself are finding it hard to defend the hereditary principle. Personally, I have no taste for republicanism, due to my incapacity for envy. That emotion or weakness is quite absent from my makeup.

In the face of other people’s good fortune, I am as inert as a deaf person at a recital. But a Starmer government will find the fact that the Royal family has more money and more privilege than the rest of us interesting.

I increasingly feel that the future of the Royal family may depend on its ability to cheer the public, and what it lacks now is the requisite joyfulness.

The King and the Princess of Wales are effectively hors de combat, poor Camilla is 76, life bears heavily on William, and no one fancies a Pizza Express.

The Windsors are in grave need of some pizazz. Readers may succumb to the screaming abdabs, but the royal left standing who has most star power is Harry. It is easy to blame him and his puerile book for the continuing rift with his father and brother, but some courtiers of my acquaintance hold William equally liable.

Recently, I spoke to a former palace official who used to work for both princes before the good times stopped rolling. “There is a public misconception about William and Harry,” he told me. “It is William who was often the difficult one, and it is William who is preventing his father from having a proper reconciliation with Harry.” He continued, “This isn’t helpful at a point in time when the country would be buoyed up by seeing them together again, as would the King.”

Except that royal visits are conducted under diplomatic conditions with government approval, with a view to forging international relations; not with corrupt militaries with a view to filling the coffers of private citizens and their pet causes.

The canard about the Cambridge tour is getting a bit tired now, and has been well discussed. The Sussex Squad were very adept at twisting the optics of that visit and causing a furore on SM, I’ll give them that; whilst conveniently having their backs turned to similar scenes involving H&M both on their official royal tours and on this latest one. Harry on a throne on a red carpet, anyone? Harry inspecting the Nigerian troops to the British national anthem? As I said on the other thread, at least Catherine and William had the good heart to go and speak and shake hands with all the hundreds of fans dying to say hello at the football ground, even though they were in the stands behind the fixed safety fencing. That poor woman trying to get Harry and Meghan’s attention at the volleyball court had no such luck. And I think PM Andrew Holdness’s behaviour lacked class on that visit. But his good friend, Lady Colin Campbell preaches forgiveness of him, much like you. Hopefully he will get on with his independence referendum soon. I wonder what’s keeping him?

As Sussex supporters regularly complain about the lying British press and claim that right wing commentators like Wyatt are fed by BP , I am not going to put much value on your citation, other than it being demonstrable of a general hypocrisy amongst their supporters to believe and support tabloids and right wing press when it suits their agenda. The opinion of someone whose judgment and intelligence led her to shag Boris Johnson doesn’t interest me that much, but each to their own.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 15/05/2024 10:01

I’m not sure this does clear it up. Is he saying the state of California is an administrative mess? What a weird statement to make a as governor. What on Earth would possess him to say this in public other than 💵?

I still think this is the beginning of a scandal, not the end. Time will tell.

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 15/05/2024 10:09

Bingo! 😂🤣😀

SecretSoul · 15/05/2024 10:38

That’s a weird statement from the governor. Also bizarre to hear him waxing lyrical about all of the good work that Archewell does when part of the issue is that it doesn’t seem to be doing very much at all.

Thirdly, I don’t think it’s surprising that a charity run by British royalty would attract headlines when it’s pronounced as delinquent. While easily rectified, most charities don’t get into that position as they have proper governance in place.

That’s a very biased statement from the governor which doesn’t really help with the credibility of what he’s saying.

However, all of that aside, I said a few pages back that I thought this issue was simply an admin oversight and should be easy to resolve. And such is the case.

The issue that many of us are raising is that a competent, well-run charity should have a framework in place that catches these issues early - before delinquency notices are issued. Regardless of where the fault lies, and we don’t know the answer to that, things should never have reached this point with proper governance.

I’ve said this before - I’m not a fan of Harry or Meghan but I think it’s only right to acknowledge when they do something well. And with Archewell there’s such enormous potential. If I were a Sussex supporter I’d be feeling really frustrated at these very basic admin mistakes because it reflects poorly on the charity and makes it look poorly run. That might not be the case at all, but that’s the impression it gives. I don’t know why people try to defend it - if it were a cause I was passionate about, I’d feel thoroughly irritated because while easily rectified, it implies poor governance.

LumiB · 15/05/2024 10:46

SecretSoul · 15/05/2024 10:38

That’s a weird statement from the governor. Also bizarre to hear him waxing lyrical about all of the good work that Archewell does when part of the issue is that it doesn’t seem to be doing very much at all.

Thirdly, I don’t think it’s surprising that a charity run by British royalty would attract headlines when it’s pronounced as delinquent. While easily rectified, most charities don’t get into that position as they have proper governance in place.

That’s a very biased statement from the governor which doesn’t really help with the credibility of what he’s saying.

However, all of that aside, I said a few pages back that I thought this issue was simply an admin oversight and should be easy to resolve. And such is the case.

The issue that many of us are raising is that a competent, well-run charity should have a framework in place that catches these issues early - before delinquency notices are issued. Regardless of where the fault lies, and we don’t know the answer to that, things should never have reached this point with proper governance.

I’ve said this before - I’m not a fan of Harry or Meghan but I think it’s only right to acknowledge when they do something well. And with Archewell there’s such enormous potential. If I were a Sussex supporter I’d be feeling really frustrated at these very basic admin mistakes because it reflects poorly on the charity and makes it look poorly run. That might not be the case at all, but that’s the impression it gives. I don’t know why people try to defend it - if it were a cause I was passionate about, I’d feel thoroughly irritated because while easily rectified, it implies poor governance.

Did you miss the part where he said it's a technical issue that happens to alot of other charities or companies and been one that isnt new and has been haplening for years. Or are you hard of hearing? Or just ignoring it so you can continue your negative narrative

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Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 15/05/2024 11:05

@LumiB We all understood that very well. You seem to have misunderstood the implication. The governor of California was admitting that administration errors are regularly causing charities to be declared delinquent and preventing them from fund raising.

This whole statement poses more questions than answers. It makes me think that there is something in the independent charity audit that lots of people don’t want anyone to see I.E- that the $10 million paid to Archwell is from Oprah as payment for the interview, despite claiming that they weren’t. I assume Oprah made a call to her friend Gavin to stop that from happening.

BemusedAmerican · 15/05/2024 11:09

Also, you all seem to forget that this charity is in the US. It may be run by a prince but it falls under our rules. Any charity whose owners do a really hyped event will get looked and discrepancies brought out.

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 15/05/2024 11:21

SecretSoul · 15/05/2024 10:38

That’s a weird statement from the governor. Also bizarre to hear him waxing lyrical about all of the good work that Archewell does when part of the issue is that it doesn’t seem to be doing very much at all.

Thirdly, I don’t think it’s surprising that a charity run by British royalty would attract headlines when it’s pronounced as delinquent. While easily rectified, most charities don’t get into that position as they have proper governance in place.

That’s a very biased statement from the governor which doesn’t really help with the credibility of what he’s saying.

However, all of that aside, I said a few pages back that I thought this issue was simply an admin oversight and should be easy to resolve. And such is the case.

The issue that many of us are raising is that a competent, well-run charity should have a framework in place that catches these issues early - before delinquency notices are issued. Regardless of where the fault lies, and we don’t know the answer to that, things should never have reached this point with proper governance.

I’ve said this before - I’m not a fan of Harry or Meghan but I think it’s only right to acknowledge when they do something well. And with Archewell there’s such enormous potential. If I were a Sussex supporter I’d be feeling really frustrated at these very basic admin mistakes because it reflects poorly on the charity and makes it look poorly run. That might not be the case at all, but that’s the impression it gives. I don’t know why people try to defend it - if it were a cause I was passionate about, I’d feel thoroughly irritated because while easily rectified, it implies poor governance.

Archewell works closely with Biden and the Democrats. Mental health on the feel good service, media censorship under it, via the work of The Aspen Institute and associated vehicles and individuals. It’s election year. Newsome will not be letting Archewell’s reputation be tarnished if they are going to be useful.

TheFirmBiscuit · 15/05/2024 11:23

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 15/05/2024 11:05

@LumiB We all understood that very well. You seem to have misunderstood the implication. The governor of California was admitting that administration errors are regularly causing charities to be declared delinquent and preventing them from fund raising.

This whole statement poses more questions than answers. It makes me think that there is something in the independent charity audit that lots of people don’t want anyone to see I.E- that the $10 million paid to Archwell is from Oprah as payment for the interview, despite claiming that they weren’t. I assume Oprah made a call to her friend Gavin to stop that from happening.

Pehaps a dignified silence like the late Queen in this instance would be in order rather than doubling down and imagining further unproven trangressions and imaging favours called to shut them down. Archewell contains both a foundation not for profit and seperate profit making arm. When Meghan finally becomes President the Royal Family will find themselves having to host them and roll out the red carpet so osme need to mentally prepare themselves for that day !

jeffgoldblum · 15/05/2024 11:34

Totally jumping the shark !

AliceOlive · 15/05/2024 11:50

TheFirmBiscuit · 15/05/2024 07:44

The cash for honours seems more egregrious and besides the Palace has the huge administrative machines available to an an institution of the state at it's disposal and should for the sake of the institution be beyond reproach. Archewell will inevitably be a seat of your pants type of organistion, no dount well meaning, but yet to find it's feet. Let's be honest here folks on both sides are picking their cudgels to satisfy an agenda with faux concern for propriety and it does appear Charles was aware of the bags and wise counsel would be to say, thanks but can he do it through more acceptable means, precisley to avoid what did indeed happen - a minor scandal. That smells of a lack of judgement which may well have been inherited by his wayward son.

Forgive me if I misread your post but you seem to be implying that Archewell has a corrupt smell about it which has the whiff of an internet rumour rather than an established fact.

Edited

But the tresses?

SecretSoul · 15/05/2024 11:53

LumiB · 15/05/2024 10:46

Did you miss the part where he said it's a technical issue that happens to alot of other charities or companies and been one that isnt new and has been haplening for years. Or are you hard of hearing? Or just ignoring it so you can continue your negative narrative

I suggest you re-read my post as you appear to be hard of understanding.

If anyone could find details of how many charities in California get pronounced as delinquent and then reversed, I’d be interested in the actual numbers.

Certainly in the U.K. it would be unusual for a charity not to follow up on its regulatory paperwork or to be unaware that it was about to be pronounced as delinquent. A PP works for a charity and confirmed this is the case.

I’d expect Californian-registered charities to be as diligent. Weird to think that loads of them just allow their status to lapse into delinquency. They would have to suspend all activity until the delinquency was resolved so this would be a big issue, albeit easily resolved.

The filing for Archewell is now showing as having been received on 14/5/2024.

AliceOlive · 15/05/2024 11:54

TheFirmBiscuit · 15/05/2024 11:23

Pehaps a dignified silence like the late Queen in this instance would be in order rather than doubling down and imagining further unproven trangressions and imaging favours called to shut them down. Archewell contains both a foundation not for profit and seperate profit making arm. When Meghan finally becomes President the Royal Family will find themselves having to host them and roll out the red carpet so osme need to mentally prepare themselves for that day !

How has the RF doubled down?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 15/05/2024 11:54

jeffgoldblum · 15/05/2024 11:34

Totally jumping the shark !

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BemusedAmerican · 15/05/2024 11:56

If I don't file my taxes on time, I get audited and fined. My paycheck could even be garnished. I expect the same level of scrutiny towards a charity. I also do my own taxes. I don't have an accountant or flunkies.

I donate a sizeable amount of money to each month to charity (sizeable for me). I research before I donate and I look at the tangible actions of that charity.

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AliceOlive · 15/05/2024 12:01

BemusedAmerican · 15/05/2024 11:56

If I don't file my taxes on time, I get audited and fined. My paycheck could even be garnished. I expect the same level of scrutiny towards a charity. I also do my own taxes. I don't have an accountant or flunkies.

I donate a sizeable amount of money to each month to charity (sizeable for me). I research before I donate and I look at the tangible actions of that charity.

Nah, I filed mine late for ages. If you owe, you need to file but if they owe you, they won’t bother you. You have to pay what you owe on time.

However, a business can’t do this.

AliceOlive · 15/05/2024 12:05

The state registration thing is separate from taxes though. It’s like professional licensing, it’s meant to regulate charities and protect constituents.