Happy Birthday, Spare!

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It’s the one year anniversary of the release of Spare, how are you all celebrating?!

In all seriousness, a year on what impact do you think the book has had on the Royal Family and the Sussexes?

In my opinion it clearly did very well commercially but in popular culture it became a bit of a joke. In terms of the RF I’m not sure it made much difference - to people who already didn’t like them it confirmed what they already believed, to people who did like them it was more evidence that Harry was no loss. I also think even a year later it has made reconciliation between William and Harry impossible.

I remember the headlines when the late Queen's first grandchild was born - plain Peter Phillips! It was quite the talking point.

The Dukedoms of QE2's sons and grandsons weren't automatic either - they had to be created, just as Armstrong-Jones was created Lord Snowdon. So Mark Phillips could have been created and Earl (or other title).

The post you quoted there may well be libellous, @Alalain.

The claimant in that case and their solicitor were on the wrong side of a damning interim judgement against them in March 2022 for breaches of the court rules relating to witness statements. The judge basically said that the claimant's witness statement in support of the claim was nothing more than a set of grievances, complaints and hearsay and was an "egregious case of serious non- compliance” and that the burden of non-compliance should be placed at the door of the Claimant, not the Defendant (Tindall)| in terms of costs." He threw out the witness statement and told the claimant they had to start again. Tindall et al were counterclaiming for money they claimed they had not been paid. The case settled shortly after that interim decision, I believe. There is zero indication that the case settled on unfavourable terms to Tindall, let alone that there was any evidence of passing off or that they "had to" settle because there was evidence that they had done something wrong.

It's not 'libellous' it's reported everywhere if you Google it.

I ahve tried Googling 'Mike Tindall podcast legal action' and have a bit of a mess of results. Could someone link?

If @Ridemeginger 's post is correct it sounds as if other comments are a smear.

But I'll wait to see the link - evidence is everything

I’ve seen some interesting stuff reported everywhere today for sure.

Just not about that 🤷🏽‍♀️

@Roussette I have tried Googling - but haven't found the details. Could you link, or let me know what words I should be Googling? Ta

I have never seen anything about it, so not sure how widely it was reported.

Interesting that posters who 'don't understand posters interest in people they don't like' show that they appear to also have an interest in the people they don't like. The flipping and flopping is 🙄.

edited to add, apologies this is a bit of a derail.

2022 EWCH. 438 IPEC.

Seems to be the reference for the outcome of the judgement into witness statements

Was curious, so here is a link to a report from the Daily Mail from early 2023, don't know how accurate it is being the DM. It could be a bit outdated as it's from last year,, the courtcase was two years ago and was resolved, the deficit was also reported from last year, could be a bigger or smaller deficit now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11944029/EDEN-CONFIDENTIAL-Mike-Tindall-James-Haskell-convert-No1-podcast-profits.html

Thank you @spanieleyes . So, from what I understand (I am not a lawyer) the claimant (against Mike Tindall) hadn't provided evidence (in legal terms) in their submission - only opinon and speculation. They can resubmit statements providing actual evidence if they choose.

And apparently they haven't resubmitted anything to the court?

From what I have read it is difficult to make money from podcasts. Although it can raise your profile, which can bring in money in other ways.

I enjoy the Rest is History and the Rest is Politics podcasts, but don't subscribe. They have paid-for clubs, and ticketed events, but I have no idea how much those bring in. It is a long-term investment of time, with no guarentee of financial success

They all settled without going back to court, no idea of the settlement terms though!

Well, as I said I am not a lawyer. But it is difficult to see /howwhy the claimants would have submitted strong evidence second time round, having failed the first time.

But who knows?!

private correspondence between Meg and her father-in-law, amongst other things.

Is that active or just a life being lived?

I suppose having friends share that they were never going to that wedding anyway was more recent.

How is that active though? Falsehoods and outright lies were written about that event, all designed to humiliate them and make it appear that everybody hates them.

They set the record straight.

And fair enough I think.

Publicly releasing private correspondence is being publicly active and inviting scrutiny and opinion. Perhaps H&M thought it would only invite opinion of others and not reflect on them but objective people do see a wider picture.

Ok - fair enough.

I don't see most of those things as active but again - fair enough.

Moderating the Netflix film yes, but the statements and cards stuff seems par for the course for any public entity to me. I am a bit blind to it! 🙂

How do you know this? Because they said so?

Falsehoods and outright lies were written about that event

Really weird to describe publicly invading family privacy as “a life being lived”.

While I don't disagree with you the comparrison is not like for like.

This is the version of the story from the press.

The version of the story from PH book is quite different in principal and regarding the people involved in the decision making process.

Both sides will have truth.

But I am always sceptical of the tabloids when they are doing a lot of heavy lifting trying to persuade me of something.

I don't think that version is from the tabloids!

I think I misunderstood!

Did you not say that MM was writing to the king? That I would view as a life being lived - he is grandfather to her children, her father in law and her husbands father.

If there letters were made published by her - I missed that. That would be somewhat more than active though - I think we would on that!🙂