George going to Marlborough? Article linked.

[Greatballzoffire]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12872215/William-kate-snub-eton-george-marlborough-college-second-visit.html

I very much doubt I'll return but I think I'll be proved correct on all scores.

We can safely assume you have no more information than the rest of us @goodbyestranger !

Things change.

That sounds sinister goodbyestranger - can you enlarge?

You are very intrusive Mylovelygreendress. You can’t safely assume anything but feel free to assume whatever you like.

Things change. There’s nothing to expand on. Try a few history books?

@goodbyestranger you are making quite a few assumptions yourself

Try a few history books?

The guillotine? At least that would solve the problem of George’s secondary education.

Have any members of the RF, except for W&H, gone to Eton? It doesn't seem that there is a family tradition to follow. The following from Wiki 😀but probably accurate enough

In the the era of QE2 they were educated by tutors/governesses.

Her children - Gordonstoun/Benenden

The York girls - StGeorge's/Marlborough (and Catherine also Marlborough)

Louise - St George's/St Mary's, James - Eagle House

Margaret's children - Bedales

So I can't see any evidence of 'Eton or bust'. William was boarding from age 8 so has already made a change for his children.

It would be a bit of a surprise if they end up at the local comp, but beyond that difficult to see how academics come into it, over other factors such as co-ed/single sex, boarding/day etc

I have read a few history books, givne I have a degree in history. I still don't have a clue what you are referring to!

Can't believe that a history graduate can say that things don't change. It's such an obvious statement on my part.

Of course things change.

I don't get the connection with there being clear indications that W&C intend George to go to Eton - indications you can't put into words

Yup.

Boarding from age 8!! Dreadful. Amazing the RF placed that trust in a boarding school really.

I still do not understand why Eton is elitist and Oxford is not at least at elitist? When a huge percentage of our leaders went to Oxford or Cambridge. We have plenty of great universities so why is it seen as ok that these two are massively overrepresented?
Angela Rayner went to neither…
The current trend in politics is firmly anti private and may I state the obvious, anti Oxbridge too. You can’t separate the two. Once you have an issue with elitism then surely you have to follow through on that line of thought. The whole point being that those representing Joe Bloggs on the street need to be more like him or her. And the Oxbridge bubble is the antithesis of that. We don’t need highly overly intelligent people in Government, we need people who want to make things better for all and have some proper understanding of what things are like for normal people. If Oxbridge represents the top 1 per cent or so educationally then we should have MPs and leaders from lots of different universities or even without a degree who have read a wide range of subjects.

I still do not understand why Eton is elitist and Oxford is not at least at elitist.

I agree with you but I suppose Eton is a useful school for a posho attack and also the only Etonians many posters know of are Boris and David Cameron whose politics the posters don’t like so they are used as an example of why it’s a rubbish school.
There are 1300 boys there at any given time so over the past 30 years there are/have been 7,800. However according to mn all of them are invariably thick and entitled.

However according to mn all of them are invariably thick and entitled

Who on earth has said that? I haven't seen it

Of course they're not all thick and entitled. I know a Doctor who went to Eton. Nice guy. There'll be plenty more like him.

I suppose because since the Welfare State universities have been - theoretically - open on the basis of merit, whereas Eton has always been limited to the wealthy. The Oxbridge selection process has been heavily skewed to the educational experience of schools such as Eton, but has also allowed a proportion of the hoi polloi since WW2.

Lepapillon I have just had a wonderful Christmas and New Year with my very large family and am extremely lucky, conscious of how lucky I am and am completely content. The fact that I think the current royal family are a bunch of tax dodging, legislation fiddling, dysfunctionals who repeatedly try to dupe the public into thinking they're not guilty on each of those counts does not make me resentful or unhappy. Please stop the sly personal attacks. They're baseless.

wildernesssw there is no connection between those two things, You're conflating them where I didn't.

Araminta1003 you're way behind the curve in terms of access to Oxford and Cambridge. Neither university is socially elitist any more and the country is pretty doomed if no institutions are allowed to be intellectually elite.

I've already asked someone to point to where anyone has said all Etonians are thick. No-one has. Other posters are now also saying that no-one has. Minutewaltz who has said that and where? I know plenty of very very bright Etonians and have done since my teens, so that's over a number of decades including the decade when Boris was there.

However I do like the idea of this vacuous and fairly toxic rf being told to push off.

Goodbyestranger.

What about other families who are rich through inherited wealth? Would it give you pleasure if say, the Duke if Devonshire’s heir failed to get into Eton?

So after spending a few days trashing kids that go to Eton, some posters have moved on to trashing kids that go to Oxbridge now?
The VAST majority of kids get into Oxford or Cambridge through years of hard work then go through a pretty rigorous admissions process. The disdain for the kids that succeed says more about you than them.

I don't derive pleasure from any kid failing any school test. That is actually a pretty weird spin of what I've said and not a reflection on me - but on you.

On the other hand I do find it refreshing that the notoriously entitled rf may be coming up against people and institutions who are prepared to say no: merit trumps all.

Who is in disdain of Oxbridge students BackToWhereItAllBegan? Because you seem to be singling out a poster ('The disdain for the kids that succeed says more about you than them').

Eton has very specifically always not been limitrd to te wealthy
Since its founding in 1440 to educate 70 poor scholars for free there have always been fully funded places. They stopped the academic scholarships from automatically granting full fee remission in the 60s so that wealthy people couldn't tutor to avoid the fees, but there continue to be means-tested 100% bursaries including some which are restricted to those who have had their primary education in the state sector.