Carol Middletons master plan revealed. Ridiculous & impossible for Carole to have engineered the royal wedding.

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https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/royals/carole-middleton-master-plan/

This is so completely fabricated. There is no way Carole or Michael for that matter could engineer William & Kate's relationship. The royals are notoriously insulated even the most aspirational of parents would struggle to break into the upper middle classes if they were not born within them.

Yes @User14March but they hadn't been in a relationship since their late teens.

Yes of course I know that.
We were talking in general as the PP said Most people don't marry their Uni sweethearts

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a3476/how-kate-middleton-imploded-the-british-class-system-and-heralded-the-rise-of-a-brand-new-social-stratum/

Crazy article from 2015 & downright insulting to the Middletons.

Thoughts and prayers for Camilla Long, the one who got away 😔

I can see Lasy Whisledown writing all about this in her pamphlet.

I'm sure she even planned her pregnancy and biological sex of the child to coincide with William being born! 😂 Not!

That article is tripe!

The article is so thinly veiled.. New class "middleton class" 🙄

Yep, you need to be a special kind of stupid and massively misogynistic to believe that a mother (and it's never the father, look at the pp talking horribly about her niece) can simply present a daughter to an eligible bachelor and... Voila! Damn wimmin and their spooky witchcraft.

Seriously, do you believe all that bullshit?

OP, why the sudden urge to dig up these silly articles from almost a decade ago? Anyone would think you were as obsessed with Kate's family as Meghan is reported to be.

Read the Town & Country article above, dads role was apparently dog walker & chauffeur while mum schemed!

How many of you would financially support a healthy able-bodied daughter and let her sit on her arse for ten years waiting for a bloke to call so she'd be able to go running whenever he snapped his fingers? Surely most mothers would say, no, get a job, build a career, develop your own interests, don't let your whole life revolve around a man.

If I had a daughter who was trying to make a go of a job in London, but was being relentlessly harrassed by paparazzi and journalists (see the link below if you’ve missed this), making her life very difficult and her job untenable, I think I’d do exactly what the Middletons did, actually. Offer her a role in the family business, where she was able to put her creative talents to good use, and keep her in a far more protected environment.

And we can see that Kate did have her own interests and friendship groups, given we saw her taking part in a charitable dragon boating challenge and various other events after she and William broke up.

@Serenster fantastic point. The Middleton's had the money & connections to shelter Kate as much as they could so what normal parent wouldn't do that for their child? As that video shows her dealings with the media were a horrible baptism of fire for her it would have been a hell of a lot worse if she had to work down in Canary Wharf etc & would have significantly impacted all her Co workers etc who wouldn't be too happy either...

I am with purplecapricorn
It's highly likely that both Katherine and her parents ensured she was in that geographical lottery of right place at the right time with actually pretty high odds when you compute in Kate's high value in terms of being not only a good looking young woman but also a somewhat discreet self effacing character who probably stood out from the aristocratic keenies throwing themselves at him. No doubt many eligible men would have found her attractive and it was probably just a matter of time before William noticed her and became interested- The fact the relationship sustained, now that is all down to the incredible good fortune that they found they were compatible.
They made sure she was in the William lottery aged 19 and her odds were very good and she won, but ultimately he did too because she has turned out to be extremely suited to the duties of the job it would seem.Someone has to win and Katherine's mother knew that and made sure she had bought her ticket and was in the one draw that was open to everyone, the smallish community of university. I don't think badly of her for it, she is clearly a driven woman who understood the odds of probability and the specific charms of her daughter better than many. She could not predict there would be chemistry no, but she could predict they would never have a chance to find out if there was any chemistry if they never were able to meet and get to know each other as they did at St Andrews. I am not sure a professional match maker could have found a better partner seeing how she has done in the job so far.

Also, of course Carole Middleton is photographed at royal events, she's an in-law and gets on very well with other members!!

That's just families.

It's the story line from The Crown. I guess they didn't know it was a drama!

If CM managed this then it was a good thing. W&C are a well matched couple. I don’t think William is easily manipulated. In fact the opposite.

I agree derxa, they seem very well matched. She should get matchmaker of the century for her efforts, if she made any.

Yes The Crown presents it as Carole interfered to maximize chances of them getting together but I think it is the truth that Catherine was destined for Edinburgh but changed to St Andrews after it was announced that was where William would go...

Having attended a Uni with a high proportion of privately educated students, I was surprised in the years following graduation how many young women either never had a career (they had parents and trust funds, and at most dabbled in e.g. art galleries), or only until they married (someone with a 'suitable' career in the city and/or family money) and had their first child.

University seemed to be the modern equivalent of a finishing school!

I'm quite glad I didn't/don't have that sort of family money on the whole... (though before anyone feels to need to say it, I am even more glad I'm not living in poverty)

She didn't plan for William necessarily but certainly for a good marriage. My brother went to uni with Pippa and said she wouldn't talk to anyone that wasn't worthwhile talking too.

The three children have had every privilege but have not used it to create careers of their own. Kate invested her working years in waiting about to become a princess. She's done more in the last ten years than her whole adult life. Pippa has married well. James doesn't seem to work at all.
They are now just wealthy for a living and have enough to power enough trusts to keep the interest coming in.

Quite sickening that in this day in age going to the 'right' school and marrying well with a bit of family money of your own sets you up for life.

Kate has more than earnt her keep now. But she's lucky that people have forgotten that she's someone whose family wealth has cushioned her through life.

James doesn't seem to work at all.

Actually, James is a serial entrepreneur who has set up three businesses: Nice Cakes, which folded in 2015; Boomf which was a gift/card by mail company specialising in marshmallows, which was purchased by venture capital firm in 2022; and Ella & Co, a dog food company.

None of them have been a conspicuous success, but given that opening up a business from scratch involves a huge amount of time and effort, not to mention employing people, it seems a little unfair to suggest he doesn’t work at all.

@Serenster fair enough.,, but most of those 'businesses' were probably possible because he had money from money and daddy. It's a lot easier to set up a business if you have parents that own a multi million pound party businesses you can build on. Plus with all that help and the finest education money can buy he'd actually manage to make s profit!

well pippa might have got the best deal and money but the husband is not the most attractive man and without money would have zero choices.

I thought the fact they had Carole living in a glorified Berkeley home was amusing & hardly factual…not that there’s anything wrong with a Berkeley home. If she has a GSOH, & I think she does, that Crown episode hopefully had her howling with laughter.

NB: Controversially, IMO, Carole was likely steering C away from PW.