Duchy of Lancaster Theft

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Just when I thought I could not be more taken aback at some of the practices undertaken by our Monarchy, and the sheer greed.

I then read this article. Bottom line.... anyone who dies intestate in Lancashire, and parts of Merseyside, Grtr Manchester, Cheshire and Cumbria... their assets are scooped up by the Duchy of Lancaster who has collected more than £60M over the last 10 years. Not charity as is the norm.. but into the pocket of our King You need to read the article to see what he actually does with it and how it benefits his personal income.

The article explains it well and will answer any questions and queries about it.

Someone yesterday accused me of 'despising' the RF. I disagreed but I am beginning to wonder if that poster was right. Especially when I read something like this.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/23/revealed-king-charles-secretly-profiting-from-the-assets-of-dead-citizens?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Could you post the schemes with this charge? Although some people still won't be able to afford £50 though, but the cheapest I found was £150. The free wills network charges the charities so I don't think most people would want to do that.

The fact some people don't have a will is not the problem. The problem is that it should never go to the royal family or any other family, it should go to the state as it does for most areas of England.

I'm really not bothered by this at all. As others have said, it's all easily avoided by simply writing a will.

You're not bothered our multi billionaire Heads of State have been lying to us ?
Just the way they like it.

The Jubilee Trust looks like the murkiest vehicle to me.

Screams of Charles using others money to prop up his pet project once again just as he did witjh Dumfries House. No surprise it gets the biggest slice of the cake.

This whole thread (to me anyway) just seems to be a convenient way of pointing the finger of blame (and a convenient stick to beat the RF with)rather than taking accountability and responsibility for our own financial affairs. For 99% of the population and they have the ability to exercise powers and control over who gets their estate but, if they choose not to exercise this choice then they can't complain when it ends up somewhere else (be it Government or RF).

Personally, if I was a resident of one of the Duchy and died intestate I'd prefer the Duchy benefit from my estate than the Government who already receive more than enough of my money when I'm alive and will also when I'm dead, why would I want them to give them my entire estate too.

Just my thoughts on it and I'm sure loads on here will disagree😁.

Oh FFS. The charities do this because they want the money, themselves. They get charged but are benefiting or wouldn’t bother. And charities are not where I’d want my own money going anyway. But then most people dying without family and without any indication of where they want their estate to go either don’t have much to leave or else truly do not care what happens to it.

It’s been eloquently covered above as to why people may not have made a will .
And not making a will is not the key issue here .
Everywhere else in England ( and it is only England affected ) outside of the Duchys - the money goes to the state .
It’s the fact that Charles is pocketing the money which is the issue

And you may not think it matters( it helps to be a subservient royalist I’m sure ) but it’s worldwide bad PR now and Charles jumped to try to defuse the situation so he clearly is rattled

My post was to @StormzyinaTCup

There is no need to 'oh ffs' me thank you. The charities are not paying on the condition they are left anything, theres no rule you must leave them anything, and some people have very little to leave at all. Have you ever tried to use the service? It appears not. Charities have to pay for them with what little they have.

The fact people don't have a will, is not the issue.

Once again, I am amazed at the amount of people leaving aggressive comments like this about those who do not have a will and are completely ignoring the cash grab by the monarch, one of the richest families in the country and largest land owners in the world. To just not care about that fact and leave these sorts of posts about people writing wills is missing the point. Why do you think they should have this money? I'd like to know why it doesn't bother you.

And you may not think it matters( it helps to be a subservient royalist I’m sure ) but it’s worldwide bad PR now and Charles jumped to try to defuse the situation so he clearly is rattled

Subserviant royalist 😂😂 - it's still early in the day but I reckon that's going to be the most amusing thing I read on here today!

The government aren't keeping it for their own purposes though, it's for the benefit of all of us. Your post makes absolutely no sense. Should we give them all our tax money then? Just let them decide what to do with all of the money? Thats a ridiculous position. The government have too much so lets give it to the billionaire royals! Why them and not some other family? Why not give it to me!!

The power they have over people is incredible.

I can't think now how many times it has been explained possible reasons why someone has not left a Will in response to 'Just make a Will' !

It's getting a bit boring now! 😴

I think the royal family has the same power over some people that churches and gods do. So nothing they do will be questioned, because that would be like questioning god.

At this point I think Charles could walk into my house and steal my stuff at gunpoint and this board would excuse it!

Aggressive comments about people not leaving a will? You are the one assuming they are all incapable or ignorant.

You think the government is taking care of people? You must be joking.

if they choose not to exercise this choice then they can't complain when it ends up somewhere else (be it Government or RF).

I have no issue with unclaimed estates going to the government.

I do have an issue with a feudal relic that the royals themselves could have put to bed decades ago by voluntarily returning the money to the public purse.

Instead they've chosen to prop up their own projects and upgrade property they benefit from in the form of rental increases with 'little people's' money and now panic when their greed is exposed

So not a good look.

You can even write your own will.

Please explain why a charity would offer a will for free at expense to the charity? Is the government forcing them to provide this service?

I definitely don’t want a donation I made to a charity being used to pay for someone’s free will.

Not a good look at all. The average estate is worth £12,000, so they're not collecting off millionaires. They've literally got a law firm going round looking for the teeny tiny amounts left from ordinary people without anyone to leave it to. Its gross, greedy and completely unacceptable.

I've not been aggressive. On this thread, people who have not left a Will have been squarely blamed and I politely set out why they might not have left a Will. That's all.
As have others. Nowhere have I called them incapable or ignorant, but life throws us curved balls sometimes, and for some, life isn't easy.

I will explain nothing to someone so rude. Go google it and inform yourself. You clearly have no idea about the service at all.

who is this to? Neither myself or the OP did any such thing, thats what others have done and we have defended why some won't have one, including they cannot afford it.

It was novella bringing the word aggressive into it. Take that up with her.

No one is “blaming” people who don’t have a will. We are indicating that perhaps the act of not writing a will is an indication of their wishes or lack thereof.

They didn’t care or else wanted their money to go to the Duchy.

They didn’t care or else wanted their money to go to the Duchy

To be honest, I doubt very much they would have a clue about this. I didn't know.

Hopefully, they will now.

My post wasn’t rude. But we don’t need to engage further if you prefer.

I agree with you there.

It’s free to write your own will. It’s a viable option for people with little to leave. I have family that’s done so.

@CathyorClaire

”I do have an issue with a feudal relic that the royals themselves could have put to bed decades ago by voluntarily returning the money to the public purse.”

Exactly this

And those who defend the royals say ‘ we’ve been doing it for 900 years so ‘shrug’”
It was only in 1930s I think that the ‘royals’ had to start saying the money was going to charity after public outcry

Now we find that was more smoke and mirrors .
The sheer greed. Don’t they have enough ?

If the advisors had any sense theyd announce a reform of this system and have the state manage it

Saying Charles will ‘ethically invest’ it has backfired of course. It’s still going into his pocket

Even if people are aware now, some will still not have the means or feel the cost is worth their small estate. My Mother will leave next to nothing, she doesn't have a will as she can't afford one. She's not in the duchies areas thank god.

The solution is for this law to change as its both unfair and outdated. Every area in England should have the same law on this, one which many people assume anyhow and is fairer, and the monarchy must learn to pay for their own private expenses and costs, and stop greedily finding ways to take more from us- like creating a trust which takes this money to maintain your own private estate!