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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex at the Invictus Games 2023

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/09/2023 11:45

Most of the Invictus threads seem to be filling up, or focused on fairly parochial issues, so I thought, now that Meghan is in Dusseldorf, I would lead us off with a general new thread about Harry and Meghan at Invictus 2023.

Some initial thoughts from me.

The UK tabloid narrative about how much Harry and Meghan are loathed globally is blown apart by the warm and rousing welcome they both received, both separately and together. So the UK tabloids have to dig deep to write eye-rollingly silly stories about Harry being "humiliated" because he did not score a goal during a fun, light-hearted TV appearance to promote the Games.

Invictus clearly means everything to Harry, and it is lovely to see Meghan supporting him, and to remember that it was at Invictus in Toronto that they first went public. The event must have such lovely memories for them both.

Favourite picture: Meghan with Glory Essien, the Nigerian athlete.

The Nigerians have really lit up the tournament. A Kenyan senator who met Harry last week posted on X that she would work on Kenya to be the next African team.

After everything in the last year, it's so lovely to see that Invictus is getting bigger, that Harry is as committed as he has always been to the Games he started, and that Meghan is there to support the veterans, and her husband.

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Janiie · 14/09/2023 17:55

YupIKnow · 14/09/2023 17:44

Perhaps this is a new start for them as M is looking to rebrand and get away from all the negativity they have created.

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Yes he's clearly learnt the hard way that earning money by gossiping about the rf and others isn't the way to popularity.

Let's see how much Netlfix like the new improved tail between his legs Harry. I think he'll need more than IG tbh.

YupIKnow · 14/09/2023 17:56

and you are referring to gossip as your source ? The Daily Beast ? @MrsMaxDeWinter

Janiie · 14/09/2023 18:00

'The Daily Beast' 🤭

Wonder if its the op's same source who came up with Duchess Dolittle 🤣

WinnieTheW0rm · 14/09/2023 18:03

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/09/2023 17:53

Why is it a ridiculous comment when it has been a talking point for years?

Happy to send you any number of links, but to start with, even Tom Sykes, their go to person at The Daily Beast, you know, the one who usually has so much to say about what "friends" of William and Kate have told him about "how they feel" about Meghan and Harry wrote about it.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-prince-william-and-kate-middleton-have-a-work-problem

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That linked article is from 2017 - I think things have changed since then.

In particular, they had another baby who is now school age. In early 2017 (when the article was written and updated) not even their eldest had started.

And of course everything changed, gradually as the Queen became frailer, and considerably upon her death.

AliceOlive · 14/09/2023 18:13

Janiie · 14/09/2023 17:36

'It's amusing to see how William and Kate, usually noted for being workshy, suddenly have an event almost everyday this week. Even Camilla who has been pretty much invisible since the Coronation is out and about. I have honestly never seen so much of them in one week.It's clearly a fight for headlines, to beat Harry's. While I am amused that this is what it takes to get them moving, I am actually glad Wiliam and Kate are doing stuff. Not only because they do far too little, (even the Queen supposedly called Kate Duchess DoLittle)'

Such nasty comments. Oh yes of course the Queen called Catherine Duchess DoLittle 🙄

Why can't you just enjoy Harold's one week of positivity and popularity?

I just checked in to see what was happening on the thread and that's the post I caught. It's just so obvious that no one cares to focus on whatever positive things H&M might do. They don't exist as a topic, even to those that claim to support them, unless there is some kind of conflict to discuss. Maybe especially true for those that claim to support them.

I am happy they both look good and are doing well and uplifting themselves and others right now. But it's clearly too boring for many people.

Daisyislazy · 14/09/2023 18:14

I really like her outfit today < shallow>

themessygarden · 14/09/2023 18:21

Oh and links to the Press Gazette which was jointly owned by Piers Morgan, the stalwart of British journalism 🙄.

skullbabe · 14/09/2023 18:22

Daisyislazy · 14/09/2023 18:14

I really like her outfit today < shallow>

Ooh which one - the tan one or the white one? I loved them both - have always wished I could wear white like she does but makes me too anxious.

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2023 18:27

I'm fairly new here so maybe I'm missing context but I don't see why everything always has to pit one couple against the other. Why can't all these things be true:

Harry and Meghan are being well received at the Invictus Games which is a fantastic project. They are happy together and their children thriving. They are also allowed a bad day or a spilt second photo that can be taken out of context.

Catherine and William are increasingly doing more engagements, together and separately and are increasing their social media profile because they are now Prince and Princess of Wales and there are fewer active royals as people age. They are happy together and their children are thriving. They are also allowed a bad day or a spilt second photo that can be taken out of context.

Catherine looks lovely in a very suitable senior royal mode.

Meghan looks lovely in a more casual celebrity at a sports event mode.

Harry and William look nice too but no one really cares about their clothing because, men.

The four of them are attending events and getting press and sometimes these events will be at the same time. This is because there are only 365 days in the year and not because either couple spends time planning events at the same time as the other.

The tabloid media lie, infer, make up conspiracies, and quotes, take photos and quotes out of context etc etc because they don't care about anything but clicks and would happily destroy someone's life to make money.

We can never know the truth of anyone's life and it's hard being in the public eye, royal or not.

Daisyislazy · 14/09/2023 18:28

@skullbabe The tan one, I haven't saw the white one yet so must have a nosy

Daisyislazy · 14/09/2023 18:44

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2023 18:27

I'm fairly new here so maybe I'm missing context but I don't see why everything always has to pit one couple against the other. Why can't all these things be true:

Harry and Meghan are being well received at the Invictus Games which is a fantastic project. They are happy together and their children thriving. They are also allowed a bad day or a spilt second photo that can be taken out of context.

Catherine and William are increasingly doing more engagements, together and separately and are increasing their social media profile because they are now Prince and Princess of Wales and there are fewer active royals as people age. They are happy together and their children are thriving. They are also allowed a bad day or a spilt second photo that can be taken out of context.

Catherine looks lovely in a very suitable senior royal mode.

Meghan looks lovely in a more casual celebrity at a sports event mode.

Harry and William look nice too but no one really cares about their clothing because, men.

The four of them are attending events and getting press and sometimes these events will be at the same time. This is because there are only 365 days in the year and not because either couple spends time planning events at the same time as the other.

The tabloid media lie, infer, make up conspiracies, and quotes, take photos and quotes out of context etc etc because they don't care about anything but clicks and would happily destroy someone's life to make money.

We can never know the truth of anyone's life and it's hard being in the public eye, royal or not.

This, so this

Angrycat2768 · 14/09/2023 19:27

themessygarden · 14/09/2023 18:17

😂Wiliam and Kates popularity seems to also have improved

From August 2023

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Why does William have to ' win' America though? Its not a Commonwealth country and he will be Head of State no matter what, so whether they like him or not, whoever is the corresponding HoS will have to deal with him. The only reason he has to want to be popular in America is to get one over on Harry. He should be concentrating onnthe UK and Commonwealth and yes, doing more. His father had Been running the Princes Trust for 10 years by his age. He hasn't been seen since July. 3 months ago, until this week. Harry is jot paid tor by us, nor foes he represent the UK. William is and does.

Viviennemary · 14/09/2023 19:31

Now Harry is in trouble for posing with NATO chiefs. William is due to meet with the NATO chiefs next week. Wonder why Harry found it necessary to to have his photo taken with them.

Angrycat2768 · 14/09/2023 19:51

Viviennemary · 14/09/2023 19:31

Now Harry is in trouble for posing with NATO chiefs. William is due to meet with the NATO chiefs next week. Wonder why Harry found it necessary to to have his photo taken with them.

We're they at Invictus? Maybe when dignitaries turn up to the events he's the face of, they want to be photographed with him? Why does it matter anyway? The hierarchy only matters between the working Royals. Harry is not one. And it only matters because of the petty rivalries the Royals have between themselves as to who is more popular and who is more important. They are all pretending to be part of a big loving supportive family while stabbing each other in the back and competing for newspaper headlines.

MissElinorDashwood · 14/09/2023 19:54

Viviennemary · 14/09/2023 19:31

Now Harry is in trouble for posing with NATO chiefs. William is due to meet with the NATO chiefs next week. Wonder why Harry found it necessary to to have his photo taken with them.

Eh? I think you need to check your facts, respectfully.

Janiie · 14/09/2023 19:56

'They are all pretending to be part of a big loving supportive family while stabbing each other in the back and competing for newspaper headlines'

Harold was part of a big loving supportive family before stabbing them in the back and generating newspaper headlines with his whiny bollocks and varied recollections.

Just corrected that for you.

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/09/2023 20:00

Viviennemary · 14/09/2023 19:31

Now Harry is in trouble for posing with NATO chiefs. William is due to meet with the NATO chiefs next week. Wonder why Harry found it necessary to to have his photo taken with them.

Perhaps the NATO chiefs asked him to, NATO being an organisation that votes on sending soldiers to war and all, some of whom get injured, some of whom are taking part in the Invictus Games.

Is Harry to talk to no-one before William does?

@Angrycat2768 it's quite funny to see how, on the one hand, Meghan being American was a problem as she did not "understand" royal ways, and, on the other, William conquering America and being liked by Americans is a good thing.

Like he's going to be King there one day.

Interesting that they don't seem to care about how the family are viewed in the realms in which the king is head of state. No monthly polls there!!

No-one has explained why Harry and Meghan are polled as frequently as they are. The UK polls are bizarre because they are not working royals, but understandable as part of the media propaganda for the royal family, especially as they place Harry, Meghan and Andrew in the same boat, allowing Andrew's shit-show to be minimised while the transgressions of Harry and Meghan are magnified.

American polls are especially strange because I have never heard of pollsters polling private individuals, by which I mean those who don't hold public office, or are running for it.

It is all part of the negative media coverage that people here are denying.

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MissElinorDashwood · 14/09/2023 20:05

Also, there’s a difference between NATO and the UN @Viviennemary . Not that it matters which Harry meets. Your point is a strange one, indeed.

Angrycat2768 · 14/09/2023 20:06

Janiie · 14/09/2023 19:56

'They are all pretending to be part of a big loving supportive family while stabbing each other in the back and competing for newspaper headlines'

Harold was part of a big loving supportive family before stabbing them in the back and generating newspaper headlines with his whiny bollocks and varied recollections.

Just corrected that for you.

They all stab each other in the back, leak stories about each other, are jealous if the amount of positive press other members of the family get. They don't have real problems so have to make some up for themselves ( yes, Harry too. He is a product of his family)

The 'in trouble with NATO' I see is some nameless Royal ' expert' making crap up as they usually do in return for some cash from the Mail.

queentim · 14/09/2023 20:07

Viviennemary · 14/09/2023 19:31

Now Harry is in trouble for posing with NATO chiefs. William is due to meet with the NATO chiefs next week. Wonder why Harry found it necessary to to have his photo taken with them.

Harry is in trouble by who?

And where did you hear Will was supposed to meet with NATO chiefs?

Harry meeting with NATO Chiefs at the IG actually makes sense xbut curious to hear where you heard/read the other info.

YupIKnow · 14/09/2023 20:11

Harry is not and never will hold the same status as William so it's just all pretty irrelevant really.

PrincessOfTigger · 14/09/2023 20:12

I don’t think there is evidence they secretly all hate each other

Angrycat2768 · 14/09/2023 20:15

YupIKnow · 14/09/2023 20:11

Harry is not and never will hold the same status as William so it's just all pretty irrelevant really.

So why does William need to be ' popular in America'? Why does it matter if Harry meets NATO chiefs before William does? The narrative is that they are in competition with each other but William has won the lottery of life just by being born. It shouldn't matter to him what Harry does.

YupIKnow · 14/09/2023 20:15

Angrycat2768 · 14/09/2023 20:15

So why does William need to be ' popular in America'? Why does it matter if Harry meets NATO chiefs before William does? The narrative is that they are in competition with each other but William has won the lottery of life just by being born. It shouldn't matter to him what Harry does.

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Has he said this or is this newspaper claptrap?