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"They don't just report the news, they create it": on Meghan, Harry and the Press

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 21/06/2023 06:57

The much trumpeted story of the Dior deal is such a classic tabloid creation, isn't it.

I enjoyed this Grazia article that lays bare the utter nuttiness.

First the tabloids report the rumours as though they are true.

"Meghan to sign with Dior!"

No sources, just speculation based on Meghan and Harry wearing clothes by Dior a handful of times.

Then when both the Sussexes and Dior report that the rumours are not true, (Dior spokesperson said they are "nonplussed" about where the rumours came from) they spin it into "Meghan Rebuffed by Dior!"

This has also happened with Meghan's much rumoured run for the presidency: Robert Jobson actually wrote, with a straight face, in his book published in April 2023, that she was absolutely, certainly and most definitely going to run for president in 2024.

I mean any critical person would realise that the timelines don't make sense, she would have needed a fundraising Super PAC by the time the book was published, and in any event, Democrats don't normally challenge a sitting president ... but hey ho, Meghan is running for president in 2024 because a "Royal Correspondent" said so (and they are so knowledgeable about the American presidency) and a tabloid published it.

And it's the same with The Tig. She is going to launch it any day now. She wants to rival Gwyneth Paltrow! Story after story, based on nothing but speculation.

Rumour after rumour, speculation published as "news" to create media stories about a woman whose plans are not known to the tabloids because she and her husband made it crystal clear even when they were in the UK that they don't engage with the tabloid press.

And there are no "palace sources" who can speak with any kind of plausibility about the Sussexes, so the tabloids make it up as they go along, whipping up headline after headline, driving their readers into a frenzy over things they create ...

While ignoring the important news, like the damning questions by the judge in the Mirror Group case, who asked why the journalists, among them Piers Morgan, have not come to court to testify in the phone hacking trial ...

Oh no, that's not as important to report on as Meghan's fictitious Dior deal, completely implausible rumours of her presidential ambitions, and the speculated upon plans to best Gwyneth Paltrow!

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews/

There’s A New Meghan Markle Smear Campaign On The Rise

The latest bombshell news items about Meghan Markle have all the marks of a targeted hate campaign. Read more on Grazia.

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews

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AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 16:52

Roussette · 21/06/2023 16:44

Ahhhh Susan Collins. 'Nuff said!

Whatever

onlylarkin · 21/06/2023 16:58

Her title is her name.

She got married in another country, things people do all the time. And when they come home to the US, their married name IS their name legally.

Do you tell all American Citizens that get married abroad that thier married name is not legal once they come back to the US?

Yes, the titles are pointless in the US. But to change it here, both Harry and Meghan would have to go to court and have the names officially changed.

onlylarkin · 21/06/2023 17:01

There are also tons of American expats who still pay taxes to the US, despite living in other countries. They also have the right to an absentee vote.

If you do not like the system, maybe you can use the link above and contact whatever elected official you so chose to ask that they system be changed? It is your right as an American Citizen.

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 17:01

That’s not correct. In order to change your name in the US you must do more than get married.

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 17:05

All questions and comments regarding public policy issues, legislation, or requests for personal assistance should be directed to the senators from your state. Please be aware that as a matter of professional courtesy, many senators will acknowledge, but not respond to, a message from another senator's constituent.

https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

U.S. Senate: Contacting U.S. Senators

https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

onlylarkin · 21/06/2023 17:08

That is funny. I have been married twice and both times my name has been legally changed as soon as my marriage license was filed in the county.

If I wanted to change my name without getting married, I have to petition the court and pay a fee, get in front of a judge and get it done.

Once it is legally changed by marriage, I have to go to DMV and SS to update my name on government records.

I would look up the process amd show you proof, but I suspect it wont matter at all to you amd you will continue to believe what you want to despite it being wrong.

And with that, I am going about ny day.
Thank you OP for starting this thread. I stopped posting here because there seemed to never be a voice of reason.

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 17:11

If you are saying there is nothing wrong with M having contacted them, I do agree. It's not really a big deal. She can use whatever name she likes, too. The legal name argument was just because someone else mentioned it. It is not her legal name unless she changed it to that. Anyone can name themselves Queen whatever here, but it doesn't make it relevant to anyone or anything related to our government.

I personally think calling private numbers to call other senators and using a UK title made her look silly and mildly rude. I was in good company.

But that wasn't even the point. It was all about whether she may or may not have had political ambitions.

onlylarkin · 21/06/2023 17:11

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 17:05

All questions and comments regarding public policy issues, legislation, or requests for personal assistance should be directed to the senators from your state. Please be aware that as a matter of professional courtesy, many senators will acknowledge, but not respond to, a message from another senator's constituent.

https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

Yep. But people still contact other elected officials. It happens often enough that the government felt the need to mention it on an official gov page.

You (purposely?) missed my point that it still happens. All the time.

Gloria Steinham did it, Oprah did it, Ellen did it. Ive even done it and I am a nobody in society.

unbelieveable22 · 21/06/2023 17:13

She uses different names that she can legally use at different times. So what? Jesus wept.

Mustardseed86 · 21/06/2023 17:14

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 16:30

@Mustardseed86 You cut off the part I was responding to here and it was not your comment.

Ah, right - apologies!

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Roussette · 21/06/2023 17:16

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 16:52

It’s different because she used a foreign title and called people she didn’t help elect and who do not represent her on private lines.

It’s different because she left here a very long time ago and lived in Canada then UK.

It would have been better received if she had not used the title and scheduled an appointment like normal citizens do. Or just written a letter.

I didn't help elect the government ministers I contacted.

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 17:18

onlylarkin · 21/06/2023 17:08

That is funny. I have been married twice and both times my name has been legally changed as soon as my marriage license was filed in the county.

If I wanted to change my name without getting married, I have to petition the court and pay a fee, get in front of a judge and get it done.

Once it is legally changed by marriage, I have to go to DMV and SS to update my name on government records.

I would look up the process amd show you proof, but I suspect it wont matter at all to you amd you will continue to believe what you want to despite it being wrong.

And with that, I am going about ny day.
Thank you OP for starting this thread. I stopped posting here because there seemed to never be a voice of reason.

Splitting hairs here. I got married and didn't change my name. My legal name remains the same unless I get updated SSA card and other ID changed.

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 17:21

Mustardseed86 · 21/06/2023 17:14

Ah, right - apologies!

Thank you!

Roussette · 21/06/2023 17:22

Because she is politically aware doesn't mean she wants to run for office.
She is an American citizen and can contact who she wants and obviously the good cause she was contacting them about, gets forgotten.

Paid parental leave. A given here in the UK

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 17:23

Roussette · 21/06/2023 17:22

Because she is politically aware doesn't mean she wants to run for office.
She is an American citizen and can contact who she wants and obviously the good cause she was contacting them about, gets forgotten.

Paid parental leave. A given here in the UK

What would be wrong with her wanting to run for office?

onlylarkin · 21/06/2023 17:23

We are not splitting hairs. You said marriage is not a valid way to change your name. You are wrong.

The legal document needed to change a name is either 1) a marriage license or 2) a court order.

After those, the process is still the same. Change all government documents.

Yes you can change your name on a marriage license and not update your info to the government. But that is illegal. Yes, lot of people do it, doesn't make it right.

Roussette · 21/06/2023 17:29

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 17:23

What would be wrong with her wanting to run for office?

Up to her. Dont think it's happening. And to be honest, a whiff of it on MN a while back did cause some heads to explode

Sadly the media have it in for her, she'd never get a fair shot at it

AliceOlive · 21/06/2023 17:29

onlylarkin · 21/06/2023 17:23

We are not splitting hairs. You said marriage is not a valid way to change your name. You are wrong.

The legal document needed to change a name is either 1) a marriage license or 2) a court order.

After those, the process is still the same. Change all government documents.

Yes you can change your name on a marriage license and not update your info to the government. But that is illegal. Yes, lot of people do it, doesn't make it right.

Disagree that I automatically have a new legal name just because I got married. But have grown weary of this offshoot topic. I will leave you to it. I have links also, but alas.

My opinion of M's phone calls remains. I am sure yours does as well.

skullbabe · 21/06/2023 17:31

Meghan has made public statements that she supported Judge Katanga Brown Jackson’s nomination to the Supreme Court in 2022.

Ketanji Brown Jackson

Please spell her name right.

Ketanji Brown Jackson - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketanji_Brown_Jackson

onlylarkin · 21/06/2023 17:37

You can disagree all you want, but as soon as you want to change your name legally you will need to provide a marriage license or court order.

I agree that you and I are not.going to change our minds.

skullbabe · 21/06/2023 17:38

Roussette · 21/06/2023 16:44

Ahhhh Susan Collins. 'Nuff said!

I think it's interesting she tired to reach senators from across the relative aisle so to speak. I think the US is really shocking that it doens't have federally guaranteed parental leave. Here is the letter she wrote to Pelosi and Schumer (on her side of the aisle).

https://paidleaveforall.org/theduchessofsussex/

Oh well - I suppose for many - the important thing is that Meghan was put in her place and laughed at. Good times all round.

Letter from Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex - Paid Leave for All

Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex is a mom who understands the importance of paid leave. In a powerful letter to Congress, she fights for millions of American families who deserve guaranteed paid leave. Read her letter: https://bit.ly/3pmsfMv #PaidLeaveFor...

https://paidleaveforall.org/theduchessofsussex

Mustardseed86 · 21/06/2023 17:41

Oh well - I suppose for many - the important thing is that Meghan was put in her place and laughed at. Good times all round.

That makes me feel rather sad. No good deed etc.

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