"They don't just report the news, they create it": on Meghan, Harry and the Press

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

The much trumpeted story of the Dior deal is such a classic tabloid creation, isn't it.

I enjoyed this Grazia article that lays bare the utter nuttiness.

First the tabloids report the rumours as though they are true.

"Meghan to sign with Dior!"

No sources, just speculation based on Meghan and Harry wearing clothes by Dior a handful of times.

Then when both the Sussexes and Dior report that the rumours are not true, (Dior spokesperson said they are "nonplussed" about where the rumours came from) they spin it into "Meghan Rebuffed by Dior!"

This has also happened with Meghan's much rumoured run for the presidency: Robert Jobson actually wrote, with a straight face, in his book published in April 2023, that she was absolutely, certainly and most definitely going to run for president in 2024.

I mean any critical person would realise that the timelines don't make sense, she would have needed a fundraising Super PAC by the time the book was published, and in any event, Democrats don't normally challenge a sitting president ... but hey ho, Meghan is running for president in 2024 because a "Royal Correspondent" said so (and they are so knowledgeable about the American presidency) and a tabloid published it.

And it's the same with The Tig. She is going to launch it any day now. She wants to rival Gwyneth Paltrow! Story after story, based on nothing but speculation.

Rumour after rumour, speculation published as "news" to create media stories about a woman whose plans are not known to the tabloids because she and her husband made it crystal clear even when they were in the UK that they don't engage with the tabloid press.

And there are no "palace sources" who can speak with any kind of plausibility about the Sussexes, so the tabloids make it up as they go along, whipping up headline after headline, driving their readers into a frenzy over things they create ...

While ignoring the important news, like the damning questions by the judge in the Mirror Group case, who asked why the journalists, among them Piers Morgan, have not come to court to testify in the phone hacking trial ...

Oh no, that's not as important to report on as Meghan's fictitious Dior deal, completely implausible rumours of her presidential ambitions, and the speculated upon plans to best Gwyneth Paltrow!

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews/

No there can be no justification for me @MrsMaxDeWinter they absolutely must be subject to the same employment related laws as everyone but yet again we find an area where they are exempt.

@MrsMaxDeWinter have you heard the discussion Shelagh Fogarty had with Nels Abbey about Trevor Phillips comments on Meghan? quite interesting.

Iwantcakeeveryday · Today 12:21
Its not a lie. Its what they think about their exchanging of vows that matters, not yours.

Or yours?

Plenty of people have non-legal and non-religious ceremonies. Dissecting every little thing to try and create the narrative they are liars is truly a waste of time.

And truly a waste of YOUR time trying to prove they are NOT liars.

What's with this liar nonsense ? By posters keeping on and on in this vein when it's obvious what they meant, just shows up as desperation.
They had a special ceremony three days before, good for them. Now, it might not fit others agendas, but it's done and irrelevant now, and was such a minor thing. I cannot get my head around why people would be so incensed about this

I suspect there is no new fodder to jump on about them, so we have to go back to 2018!

You’re absolutely right - I cannot really understand how the RF can be exempt from employment laws. But ho hum - yet another thing to look past while being incensed at not knowing the exact moment Meghan’s waters broke.

people are obsessed with calling them liars. even when like now they are quiet, they drag up stuff from years ago. like not parading a newborn in front of the press.

I don’t know why Meghan told Oprah the story of the secret wedding at all. Surely it was a private moment that should be kept secret. Was it meant to signify that the actual wedding ceremony meant nothing? That they are humble people? It was very insignificant but significant as well. I just thought wtaf. Just the first of many instances of Meghan being economical with the actualite. She didn’t need to tell all those stories because the reality was interesting enough.

We have different perceptions and that's ok! 👍
I thought it made them more human and I thought "aww how sweet, a private time for just them, how special"

They weren’t refused. They clearly wanted a big splashy wedding with lots of celeb guests. There is no way the Queen would have refused them a quieter less public wedding. Zara had one. Beatrice had one. Anne’s second wedding was very low key. Even Charles had a private wedding on a smaller scale second time round. It was the couple themselves who wanted a huge showy wedding.
The whole ‘we had our own private ceremony beforehand’ stuff was to put two fingers up to the RF later. Along with the public who wished them well and turned up nearby in celebration. It was just rude .

Meghan’s own words

Meghan: Right? Like this kind of stuff. It’s so, it’s so basic, but it’s really fulfilling. Just getting back down to basics. I was thinking about it — even at our wedding, you know, three days before our wedding, we got MARRIED . . ..

Oprah: Ah!
Meghan: No one knows that. But we called the Archbishop, and we just said, ‘Look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world, but we want our union between us’. So, like, the vows that we have framed in our room are just the two of us in our backyard with the Archbishop of Canterbury, and that was the piece that . . .
Harry: Just the three of us.
Oprah: Really?
Harry: Just the three of us.
Meghan: Just the three of us.

I don’t get what is wrong with that.
they still had the wedding and the public got to watch it

Just because something happened 3 years ago or more it isn't forgotten especially when it was aired on a global TV programme. A person's reputation is exactly based on how they have behaved in the past not only on what they do now. Yes you can play with words all you want and pick out some tiny little thing but the fact remains:

"Three days before our wedding, we got married — no one knows that — but we called the Archbishop and said, 'This thing, this spectacle is for the world, but we want our union between us"
These were the words used on Oprah - sweet, romantic, whatever. It was not a legal marriage.

It's already been established on here today that people have opposing views about this and that is OK but there is no doubt that it is this kind of thing which garners the pair a reputation with some as being a less than accurate couple.

If M had said to a friend " oh we don't really consider that our wedding, we got married in the garden three days before" no one would have known or cared.

LIE! If she'd said that she would have been absolutely slated for disrespecting the Royal Wedding, the Queen, the Royal Family, Britain, British Royal Wedding Traditions, etc etc etc, for not considering that her wedding.

You don't see what is wrong with lying?

The point was no one would know.

Meghan: You couldn’t just go. You couldn’t. I mean, you have to understand, as well, when I joined that family, that was the last time, until we came here, that I saw my passport, my driver’s licence, my keys. All that gets turned over. I didn’t see any of that any more.
Oprah: Well, the way you’re describing this, it . . . it’s like you were trapped and couldn’t get help, even though you’re on the verge of suicide. That’s what you are describing. That’s what I’m hearing.
Meghan: Yes.
Oprah: And that would be an accurate interpretation, yes?
Meghan: That’s the truth.
Oprah: That’s the truth.

The TRUTH was she was flying around on private trips, 13 of them apparently without her passport 🤔 ?

Yep more important that Meghan is the lyingest of liars who ever lied to lie. We did not know to the minute the moment Archie took his first breath, the special moment that she and Harry shared was not an actual wedding so she’s such a liar, she felt trapped and unable to move about freely without having to check in and run it by someone - pants on fire. What a horrible person.

That's because there is nothing wrong with it unless you're looking for things to deflect from the more important things said. Like I said, the narrative has got be they are liars so Britain and the royals can say, none of us are racist they're just liars.....

I’m going back to lurking because of posts like yours.

right? its just so ridiculous for anyone to twist these things into 'lies'

A better example of a lie would be saying you have an inability to sweat or the you were ay Pizza Hut instead of at your pedo friends place with a trafficked girl. Those are clear lies. Putting the press off the scent of your childs birth to protect mother and baby, not a lie, actually quite smart. Saying you got married just with your husband and an archbishop before the big official televised circus, also not a lie. Its how they felt. How bizarre to turn these private things into such a focus, its just another way to try and ruin nice things in their life.

awesome

Saying you didn’t contribute to a book when you did - is another example of a clear lie

Telling a journalist that an actor at the lion king told you that the people of South Africa danced on the streets when you got married like they did when Mandela was releases is another example of a clear lie

Is the Lion King lie a single lie or double lie as she lied about the person and lied about the conversation ??

@Howsimplywonderful

I was right, you are helping fill the thread up nicely!

The excerpt you posted has the words Just the three of us repeated three times.

Anyone familiar with UK law knows you need witnesses for a marriage to be valid.

And as I already posted, they clarified it THE NEXT DAY, so I don't understand why this is still an issue for you.

Yes it is indeed monstrous that she said that someone told her that people danced in the street.