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"They don't just report the news, they create it": on Meghan, Harry and the Press

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 21/06/2023 06:57

The much trumpeted story of the Dior deal is such a classic tabloid creation, isn't it.

I enjoyed this Grazia article that lays bare the utter nuttiness.

First the tabloids report the rumours as though they are true.

"Meghan to sign with Dior!"

No sources, just speculation based on Meghan and Harry wearing clothes by Dior a handful of times.

Then when both the Sussexes and Dior report that the rumours are not true, (Dior spokesperson said they are "nonplussed" about where the rumours came from) they spin it into "Meghan Rebuffed by Dior!"

This has also happened with Meghan's much rumoured run for the presidency: Robert Jobson actually wrote, with a straight face, in his book published in April 2023, that she was absolutely, certainly and most definitely going to run for president in 2024.

I mean any critical person would realise that the timelines don't make sense, she would have needed a fundraising Super PAC by the time the book was published, and in any event, Democrats don't normally challenge a sitting president ... but hey ho, Meghan is running for president in 2024 because a "Royal Correspondent" said so (and they are so knowledgeable about the American presidency) and a tabloid published it.

And it's the same with The Tig. She is going to launch it any day now. She wants to rival Gwyneth Paltrow! Story after story, based on nothing but speculation.

Rumour after rumour, speculation published as "news" to create media stories about a woman whose plans are not known to the tabloids because she and her husband made it crystal clear even when they were in the UK that they don't engage with the tabloid press.

And there are no "palace sources" who can speak with any kind of plausibility about the Sussexes, so the tabloids make it up as they go along, whipping up headline after headline, driving their readers into a frenzy over things they create ...

While ignoring the important news, like the damning questions by the judge in the Mirror Group case, who asked why the journalists, among them Piers Morgan, have not come to court to testify in the phone hacking trial ...

Oh no, that's not as important to report on as Meghan's fictitious Dior deal, completely implausible rumours of her presidential ambitions, and the speculated upon plans to best Gwyneth Paltrow!

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews/

There’s A New Meghan Markle Smear Campaign On The Rise

The latest bombshell news items about Meghan Markle have all the marks of a targeted hate campaign. Read more on Grazia.

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews

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Iwantcakeeveryday · 03/07/2023 10:42

why on earth would anyone lie about when a child was born? Or lie about when they were really married?

I have no idea if they did lie about the time of the birth but I also don't care, its none of my business, nor yours. They can announce it when they wish to and Meghan is entitled to privacy while and after giving birth.
As to their marriage, I take it to mean they had a special moment and ceremony to themselves and I think its rather sweet. I would hate for my wedding to be taken over by the country. Its nice they had a moment they cherish and their own private thing and anyone trying to take it from them is being a bit harsh in my opinion. Let them have their moment!

ItsOnlyMeNow · 03/07/2023 10:44

MrsMaxDeWinter · 03/07/2023 10:38

it means that she tried to spurn the traditions of the RF - eg all the faff about Archie's birth the lying about when he was born etc the refusal to issue a photograph..this flummoxed the public

Why do you believe that as a member of the public you had to have a front row seat at Archie's birth? He is not a direct heir. Why should she have paraded him to a bank of photographers within hours of giving birth? If you had a child would you be comfortable doing it? Surely the issue is that it is a stupid tradition, not that Meghan refused to go along with it.

They met the press two days after Archie was born, and photographers were taken. Why was two days too late?

then the big tour to SA and finally the reveal with Desmond Tutu.

What big reveal with Archbishop Tutu?

Bearing in mind that most people have always lived with the Queen in their lives it was seen I imagine in various ways from what a dick to it's all about her and a hundred other views. It was seen as disrespectful by many . This was only one example of course.

I don't know if you have ever had children, but yes, when a woman gives birth it is indeed all about her. The public saw the baby two days after the birth. Why was that not enough?

And are you aware that the Queen herself did not parade all her babies in public after birth, and that it's a "tradition" that was only "carried out" by Anne, Diana, Sarah and Kate?

Meghan has done Charlotte and all future royal wives who may have children a huge favour. She has shown them you can say no to the madness and can introduce your baby to the public when you are ready and comfortable to do so.

Has she done them all a favour? Now that's an interesting notion that she has shown future royal wives how to be successful and strong.

ItsOnlyMeNow · 03/07/2023 10:44

Iwantcakeeveryday · 03/07/2023 10:42

why on earth would anyone lie about when a child was born? Or lie about when they were really married?

I have no idea if they did lie about the time of the birth but I also don't care, its none of my business, nor yours. They can announce it when they wish to and Meghan is entitled to privacy while and after giving birth.
As to their marriage, I take it to mean they had a special moment and ceremony to themselves and I think its rather sweet. I would hate for my wedding to be taken over by the country. Its nice they had a moment they cherish and their own private thing and anyone trying to take it from them is being a bit harsh in my opinion. Let them have their moment!

They were lies. Fact.

Milcar · 03/07/2023 10:46

They could have had a quiet wedding if they had wanted one. It would have saved the tax payer a few million.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 03/07/2023 10:47

They were lies. Fact.

I disagree with your assessment.

ItsOnlyMeNow · 03/07/2023 10:47

Iwantcakeeveryday · 03/07/2023 10:47

They were lies. Fact.

I disagree with your assessment.

No one really cares especially me. We are all entitled to our views here.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 03/07/2023 10:49

ItsOnlyMeNow · 03/07/2023 10:47

No one really cares especially me. We are all entitled to our views here.

What do you mean by nobody cares? about what? I understand we are entitled to our views, so that's why I shared mine.

skullbabe · 03/07/2023 10:50

the faff about Archie's birth the lying about when he was born etc, the refusal to issue a photograph

This is very telling. As if his grandmother wasn’t one of the first people to know that Archie was born and to see him. It’s like the poster is conflating the Queen with the public.

Roussette · 03/07/2023 10:50

ItsOnlyMeNow · 03/07/2023 10:44

Has she done them all a favour? Now that's an interesting notion that she has shown future royal wives how to be successful and strong.

Surely this is about parading baby and Mum to a gawping public hours after giving birth?

She has done them a favour, it means new mums and members of the RF do not have to go through that if they don't want to.

BadgerB · 03/07/2023 10:52

Iwantcakeeveryday · Today 10:42
I have no idea if they did lie about the time of the birth but I also don't care, its none of my business, nor yours. They can announce it when they wish to and Meghan is entitled to privacy while and after giving birth.
As to their marriage, I take it to mean they had a special moment and ceremony to themselves and I think its rather sweet.

Fine for you or me, but the Royal Family, it seems, feel that they owe something (the truth?) to the population who allow them so much privilege.

I wouldn't lie to my family or friends as to when and where my children were born. Nobody asked to be in the Delivery Room with Meghan.
I really loved Harry when he came bouncing out in front of the cameras, waving his arms and saying how miraculous women were!

MrsMaxDeWinter · 03/07/2023 10:54

Has she done them all a favour? Now that's an interesting notion that she has shown future royal wives how to be successful and strong.

Yes, in this instance for which you have criticised her, she has done them a favour by showing you don't have to hop out of bed, blow dry your hair and parade your baby within hours of its birth. She has shown you can wait two days, and do it when you are ready because the baby will still be there. She has shown that royal babies don't vanish in a puff of smoke if they are not immediately displayed on the Lindo steps.

@BadgerB I am sure the black women you met are disappointed that they don't have a "sister" in the palace, but I am sure they would rather that Meghan was a welcome member of that family, and not one who was disliked and resented by her sister and brother in law to the point of false stories being leaked about her.

That not being the case, they will be happy that she left and is making her life where she feels more herself. The notion of "sisterhood" is one of the things I love about being a black woman. From talking about our hair to rooting on each others' successes. In the words of the book, sisterhood is powerful.

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skullbabe · 03/07/2023 10:59

Literally people are angry they didn’t know about the moment Meghan went into labour and the exact time of birth. Don’t you think it’s a bit weird that we had to know that with the others?

ItsOnlyMeNow · 03/07/2023 11:01

skullbabe · 03/07/2023 10:59

Literally people are angry they didn’t know about the moment Meghan went into labour and the exact time of birth. Don’t you think it’s a bit weird that we had to know that with the others?

It's not about that and you know it. Please try to see the bigger picture.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 03/07/2023 11:01

What is the bigger picture? How is privacy around birth affecting that?

ItsOnlyMeNow · 03/07/2023 11:02

Iwantcakeeveryday · 03/07/2023 11:01

What is the bigger picture? How is privacy around birth affecting that?

How many times do I need to say it. It is the lies that people do not like. It really is that simple.

Howsimplywonderful · 03/07/2023 11:03

Meghan may be happy she left but the universe is sliding her back down to jobbing cable actress level (but with a far healthier bank balance and a husband who clearly loves her). I hope this is enough for them both to be happy.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 03/07/2023 11:05

What is the bigger picture please? Do you mean this sort of bigger picture? Why should Meghan and Harry have subjected their baby to this?

"They don't just report the news, they create it": on Meghan, Harry and the Press
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ItsOnlyMeNow · 03/07/2023 11:09

MrsMaxDeWinter · 03/07/2023 11:05

What is the bigger picture please? Do you mean this sort of bigger picture? Why should Meghan and Harry have subjected their baby to this?

Again sadly you have missed my point. I don't feel I can explain it in any simpler terms. The bigger picture is the LIES.

Howsimplywonderful · 03/07/2023 11:10

@MrsMaxDeWinter

do you mean all the LIES Meghan has told ?

MrsMaxDeWinter · 03/07/2023 11:11

I have no idea what LIES she told about the birth of her baby but perhaps @ItsOnlyMeNow can explain.

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Roussette · 03/07/2023 11:15

Howsimplywonderful · 03/07/2023 11:03

Meghan may be happy she left but the universe is sliding her back down to jobbing cable actress level (but with a far healthier bank balance and a husband who clearly loves her). I hope this is enough for them both to be happy.

A jobbing cable actress. How derogatory. Really is. She is a woman who earnt millions in a successful show.
Why do posters have to be so snarky about her? Don't you admire women who have success, why the need to demean what she did before she met Harry. I don't get it at all

skullbabe · 03/07/2023 11:17

No you very clearly said

the faff about Archie's birth the lying about when he was born etc, the refusal to issue a photograph

when asked specifically what was a lack of decency towards the Queen and the lack of manners. Again I have said the public is not the Queen. And you have retrofitted the press and by extension the public being misled as now being incensed that people didn’t know the moment her water broke and a play by play of every contraction till Archie crowned and his umbilical cord was clamped. I’m not sure why so many people take this as a personal affront to not know.

I’ll never forget the look of pure anger Ann Diamond had on a panel show when talking about what right they had to not tell us and not show Archie’s face - you’d have thought that they’d murdered someone.

Roussette · 03/07/2023 11:17

@MrsMaxDeWinter
Thanks for the pic. I did quickly hunt for it, but missed seeing it. Horrendous and barbaric is the words I would use.

If Meghan is so power hungry and wanting to be in the limelight like detractors on here insist she is...
Why didn't she go for this then?

Instead of a quiet photocall

MrsMaxDeWinter · 03/07/2023 11:19

Meghan may be happy she left but the universe is sliding her back down to jobbing cable actress level

And if it is? She was a jobbing cable actress before, and she made millions from that.

In any event, her jobbing cable actress days are over, so this appears to be wishful thinking on your part😙My understanding is that she and Harry will be producing content under their Netflix deal, and their next project will be the Invictus games documentary.

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skullbabe · 03/07/2023 11:23

Absolutely nothing bad about being a jobbing actress. I’ll never make anywhere close to her net worth prior her meeting Harry. It seems unlikely that she’ll ever be front camera facing again but who knows.

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