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"They don't just report the news, they create it": on Meghan, Harry and the Press

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 21/06/2023 06:57

The much trumpeted story of the Dior deal is such a classic tabloid creation, isn't it.

I enjoyed this Grazia article that lays bare the utter nuttiness.

First the tabloids report the rumours as though they are true.

"Meghan to sign with Dior!"

No sources, just speculation based on Meghan and Harry wearing clothes by Dior a handful of times.

Then when both the Sussexes and Dior report that the rumours are not true, (Dior spokesperson said they are "nonplussed" about where the rumours came from) they spin it into "Meghan Rebuffed by Dior!"

This has also happened with Meghan's much rumoured run for the presidency: Robert Jobson actually wrote, with a straight face, in his book published in April 2023, that she was absolutely, certainly and most definitely going to run for president in 2024.

I mean any critical person would realise that the timelines don't make sense, she would have needed a fundraising Super PAC by the time the book was published, and in any event, Democrats don't normally challenge a sitting president ... but hey ho, Meghan is running for president in 2024 because a "Royal Correspondent" said so (and they are so knowledgeable about the American presidency) and a tabloid published it.

And it's the same with The Tig. She is going to launch it any day now. She wants to rival Gwyneth Paltrow! Story after story, based on nothing but speculation.

Rumour after rumour, speculation published as "news" to create media stories about a woman whose plans are not known to the tabloids because she and her husband made it crystal clear even when they were in the UK that they don't engage with the tabloid press.

And there are no "palace sources" who can speak with any kind of plausibility about the Sussexes, so the tabloids make it up as they go along, whipping up headline after headline, driving their readers into a frenzy over things they create ...

While ignoring the important news, like the damning questions by the judge in the Mirror Group case, who asked why the journalists, among them Piers Morgan, have not come to court to testify in the phone hacking trial ...

Oh no, that's not as important to report on as Meghan's fictitious Dior deal, completely implausible rumours of her presidential ambitions, and the speculated upon plans to best Gwyneth Paltrow!

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews/

There’s A New Meghan Markle Smear Campaign On The Rise

The latest bombshell news items about Meghan Markle have all the marks of a targeted hate campaign. Read more on Grazia.

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews

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Morestrangerthings · 01/07/2023 11:10

Roussette · 01/07/2023 04:59

@Morestrangerthings

Thank you for those articles. The Byline one spells out what it took to get this ruling and how many complaints it receives that it does nothing about. Really worth a read

It shows that public opinion on disgusting articles like Morgan's matters because if it wasn't for the outrage and complaints about it, nothing would've happened. Good to see Meghan defended for once with all the shit she gets thrown at her (yes, pun intended)

Yes, IPSO isn't really fit for purpose.

I'm am relieved that IPSO did find the Clarkson 'Shame' article to be sexist. In my opinion that wasn't enough. I know some people would argue it with me, and I've no wish to enter into debates about it and won't, but I think it was sexist and racist.

But at least The Sun has to apologise for it. Has anyone seen any apologies as yet? I've read two different articles on what The Sun has to do -- one said a small apology on the front page. Another said it will be a full front page size.

skullbabe · 01/07/2023 11:12

Meghan said on the interview that her SIL was called ‘Waity Katey’ - but Meghan had it much worse

This was not a criticism of Kate. You may not understand nor believe in the fact that Meghan has intersectional identities which make the some of the coverage of her very different to the coverage of Kate but you cannot say that someone acknowledging the sexist description of someone in a similar situation as you is criticising them. I have never understood this train of thought.

skullbabe · 01/07/2023 11:42

Roussette · 01/07/2023 10:41

That's not the point @Iwantcakeeveryday is making (BTW, thx for that article interesting read, and exactly as I thought... labelling)

The article is not about excusing Harry at all. It is about little children.... like Harry, like Louis... being labelled at a young age. It is of particular interest to me as I posted here more than once about Lorraine Kelly and 2 other journos on the sofa, and she called little Louis 'the family clown', they all laughed and another of them agreed and called him 'the naughty one'. Absolutely dreadful.
I was labelled as a child, it is very hard to shake it off. Very. It sticks with you, your siblings can take great delight in it, it can make you angry and resentful. And indeed rebellious.

You feel you might as well live up to whatever that label is.

This is not me excusing Harry for anything, it is observations on how it is very hard for any of these children in the RF to escape the media labelling them and how it will stick, and whatever you say, it has had a bearing on Harry no doubt.

Yes - it’s very apparent on these threads and the media that these children are being given roles - Charlotte is bossy or the sensible one and Louis is the clown or the naughty one. I have always been uncomfortable when I see people labelling especially Louis the way they are - many of us have or have had children his age who cannot sit still for long periods, who need entertaining, who need to comment on everything and will tell you when they’re not happy - loudly - it is unconscionable that people would label this normal behaviour as naughty. Because these labels follow them and no matter what you think of Harry, he gives a very good account of how limiting that is to any child.

skullbabe · 01/07/2023 11:47

As regards the labelling and its effect - well Harry has certainly lived up to that and well beyond. It is a shame if people can't break out and find their true self and not always blame the past.

So we should continue to label the children now? Or do you agree with the idea that it’s wrong?

Roussette · 01/07/2023 12:09

What I want is, posters who don't like Meghan or think she has done very many wrongs to just say..she deserved that vindication and IPSO ruling. Because without that, and bringing up other stuff, to me, it just sounds like she deserved that vile rhetoric about her

AliceOlive · 01/07/2023 12:14

I think Meghan has made many mistakes and I am delighted about the ruling. Didn’t post about it yesterday because it doesn’t come with any punishment or fine so thought it was great but not enough.

I think Clarkson is misogynist pig and disgusting human and I can’t stand nasty old men talking about women and mothers the way he spoke about Meghan. It seemed particularly gross because of the way the media has harassed her and because I perceive them as isolated. Also ticks me off because Harry can’t exactly fly over and punch him in the face. Which is what I think most men would want to do.

AliceOlive · 01/07/2023 12:15

So she absolutely deserves the vindication. I hope she understood that many people were up in arms over his comments.

Roussette · 01/07/2023 12:16

AliceOlive · 01/07/2023 12:15

So she absolutely deserves the vindication. I hope she understood that many people were up in arms over his comments.

Public revulsion swayed it

AliceOlive · 01/07/2023 12:27

Yes, exactly. It was not confined to people that have a solely positive opinion of the pair’s behavior.

Roussette · 01/07/2023 12:32

But despite Clarksons pathetic apology about it all, he meant every word
I think it was his DD calling him out in very strong terms and very publicly that forced an apology from him

AliceOlive · 01/07/2023 12:36

I doubt he’s sorry. Misogynists don’t change.

Nightlystroll · 01/07/2023 16:06

Clarkson won't change. That's who he is and his USP, I suppose. He just likes doing everything he's not supposed to. And he doesn't really care. He's been pulled up on this incident, but the people his style appeals to won't care about an Ipso ruling. They'll carry on watching and reading him. And even if he loses all his contracts, he'll be back in one form or another because he has a following and a reliable audience for what he does so he's very bankable.

ItsOnlyMeNow · 01/07/2023 16:06

skullbabe · 01/07/2023 11:47

As regards the labelling and its effect - well Harry has certainly lived up to that and well beyond. It is a shame if people can't break out and find their true self and not always blame the past.

So we should continue to label the children now? Or do you agree with the idea that it’s wrong?

Of course i think that there should not be labelling. What an odd question.

Maireas · 01/07/2023 16:12

You're right, @Nightlystroll , he's a maverick, like Piers Morgan. People will always watch and listen to them. So they get air time.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 01/07/2023 18:09

skullbabe · 01/07/2023 10:56

It’s so dispiriting when people do this - it is never ok to be anti discriminatory insofar as you like the person and the moment they do something you don’t like - bigotry and discrimination suddenly becomes ok.

If course and its a shame it needs saying. There's no 'but' when it comes to the Clarkson situation. All that any reasonable person should.be saying is, its absolutely wrong, sexist and not acceptable.

@Roussette glad you appreciated the article re labelling children. I know as a parent its something that when raising my kids I have been conscious of, and other parents talk a lot about. It then seems out of place now for media to do it to famous children, and particularly royal children who will have it attached to them and constantly repeated to a large audience. Even Charlotte being described as sensible or in charge, that can lead to bossy, uptight etc as she gets older and I think its important they should be free to grow and be themselves without being so narrowly defined.

Roussette · 01/07/2023 18:18

Iwantcakeeveryday · 01/07/2023 18:09

If course and its a shame it needs saying. There's no 'but' when it comes to the Clarkson situation. All that any reasonable person should.be saying is, its absolutely wrong, sexist and not acceptable.

@Roussette glad you appreciated the article re labelling children. I know as a parent its something that when raising my kids I have been conscious of, and other parents talk a lot about. It then seems out of place now for media to do it to famous children, and particularly royal children who will have it attached to them and constantly repeated to a large audience. Even Charlotte being described as sensible or in charge, that can lead to bossy, uptight etc as she gets older and I think its important they should be free to grow and be themselves without being so narrowly defined.

Totally agree 100%. It's so damaging

Maireas · 01/07/2023 18:20

I get very upset when I see (on this site as well) Charlotte being described as "bossy". Heaven forfend that a girl child is determined or confident. Just awful.

skullbabe · 01/07/2023 18:27

Maireas · 01/07/2023 18:20

I get very upset when I see (on this site as well) Charlotte being described as "bossy". Heaven forfend that a girl child is determined or confident. Just awful.

Agree - Charlotte is not bossy neither is she the “sensible one”. She’s just a child. Her parents are best placed to be able to know their personalities.

ArcaneWireless · 01/07/2023 18:29

I get very upset when I see (on this site as well) Charlotte being described as "bossy". Heaven forfend that a girl child is determined or confident. Just awful.

Bad enough that broadcasters and the press say it. No need for it to be mentioned on here at all. It just fuels a fire that should never have been lit.

Maireas · 01/07/2023 19:01

Yes, it's been said quite a lot on these threads.

Howsimplywonderful · 01/07/2023 19:02

I do remember Omid Scobie commenting on Louis and having to delete his tweets after a backlash

Maireas · 01/07/2023 19:06

How mean. I'm glad he deleted them.

BadgerB · 01/07/2023 19:53

It seems that the general opinion is that, though Clerkson does and says things that cause most people to dislike him greatly, he will always get a hearing because he has "fans" who like his style and will always back him.

A bit like H&M then, wouldn't you say?

Milcar · 01/07/2023 20:00

How does someone become a royal reporter?

It never got raised in career guidance at school, although admittedly that was back in the last millenium.

WHY does someone become a royal reporter?

Nightlystroll · 01/07/2023 20:52

WHY does someone become a royal reporter?

I think it was often the editors choice and people were just told that was going to be part of their job even if they objected.

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