To think William will struggle when he’s King?

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Who are the young people that will help him?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65523802

perhaps Edward’s children?

It's not unusual for women to take a break from their working lives (completely, or reduced hours) until their youngest is in school

Do you mean - give you a break?
Honestly why write the post like it’s fact when really it’s just how you feel about William and based on not a lot from what you’ve re-posted.

Her whole life has been a break!

I don’t want to sound hyperbolic but whenever I see that young lad I almost think it’s a breach of human rights (albeit in very luxurious conditions) that he is destined to be King. My heart sinks for him.

What if he wants to be an artist, an engineer, an explorer, a doctor, a pilot or an architect? I think it’s cruel to have your life defined for you. It could be argued that he’s not alone as plenty of farmers sons and daughters take over the family business, and many doctors and nurses, for example, follow their parents in to the medical profession, but at least they have an element of choice.

@Magentaprimrosewithfescue that's kind of what Harry says, isn't it? That Charles and William are trapped

Yes! I suppose it is! Exactly that …

And I am glad Harry and his dc have escaped although him doing so has put more burden on his brother and family. They really should have treated Harry a bit better. He was such a good asset and I am sure Meghan would have been too if they had taken the trouble to meet them half way.

Sorry, this is pure speculation but I think Wills and Harry are just so good at interacting with the public and have such star power, as do both of their wives in different ways, that I think there must be something seriously selfish or short- sighted or jealous or something going on with KC & C that meant they couldn’t recognise and nurture that!

@Sugarfree23

The Commonwealth is 100% not a trading bloc.

Whats the benefit to countries being part of it if its not?

If Charles dies within the next decade then the likelihood is Anne, Edward and Sophie will still be carrying out duties as normal. If it’s later, then maybe Anne will be taking a step back but Edward and Sophie are younger so should still be working and William’s own children will be older.

Presumably once George, Charlotte, and Louis are older, Kate will be able to do more duties as she won’t have young children to prioritise.

I can see Louise and James carrying out duties given they are a prince and princess by birthright, despite not using the titles, and are the children of active working royals. Peter and Zara have never been working royals, and given the difference in the ages (compared to Louise and James) it seems unlikely they would start; they are also further from the crown the more years that go by.

I can’t see Beatrice or Eugenie ever carrying out duties. Andrew, Fergie, Beatrice and Eugenie may get invited to various events and show up for family functions but they seem to be firmly on the Not Working side compared to the Working side of the family.

Harry is unlikely to come back, either through choice or public refusal to accept him (like the public is regarding Andrew). Given his children look likely to grow up in another country and with little or no understanding of the royal family, they won’t have a role either.

It must have benefits to other nations or they wouldn't want to be part of it. Most are republican, and a couple have joined in recent years.
Why?

They could abdicate. Harry can’t possibly put himself in Charles or Williams’s shoes though because the crown is not going to be his and he has always grown up knowing that. It’s easy to project your feelings onto others but impossible to mind read.

They could abdicate if they really wanted to but that would be a massive two fingers to the memories of both The Queen & Philip who had it landed on their shoulders at a young age and the Queen who was still carrying out her duties to day before she died.

There is also a religious element to all of it. Vowing to serve the country etc.

Indeed. Someone else could take over all that onerous waving, accepting bouquets and delivering a bland speech someone else wrote and researched for a carefully-uncontroversial charity.

If Charles and William both abdicated, then the reign of George VII would begin (and would last for at least a decade, as no-one can abdicate for him, and he cannot do it until adulthood)

Leaving the slightly vexed question of who would be regent - ought to be Harry, but he's quit. Catherine would be acceptable as co-regent (in charge of the monarch's upbringing and education, but I'm not so sure about her actually ruling, esp as her DH had quit) but next adult is Andrew (unacceptable, and not a working royal) then Beatrice and Eugenie (not working royals) then Edward (then maybe Lady Louise, but I'm not sure if you have to be 21 or 18) then Anne.

Best solution, I suppose, would be for the counsellors of state to petition parliament to have Edward and Anne as co-regents

But not landing it all on George when he's only 8 seems like pretty damned good reason not to abdicate!

Scaled down enough now that Harry and Meghan are out. 😂

No way Charles would abdicate! He could have done that and married Camilla. He loves to eat his cake and have it. Be king, have heirs and be married to Camilla.

Physiological conditioning. It programs them to think their wealth wasn't stolen and their land raped but instead that they have collective wealth in safe keeping by the RF of the UK for their common good. 😂It's amusing when people think the propaganda waged against Meghan or Diana or the white washing of Camilla is the first or couple of instances where we've seen the RF's deception.🙄

Several of Charles's biographers describe him as hot tempered.

Penny Junor writes about him blowing a gasket because he'd ordered a new landrover without a carpet in it (so it could be used to transport deer carcases) and it arrived with a carpet fitted - he didn't give his staff a chance to explain that it was a bespoke, removable carpet that the manufacturers had put in specially for him.

Penny also describes him going off on one, on an occasion when he didn't like any of the three meals his chef offered him on the Royal Train.

Paul Burrell wrote about how, as butler, Charles threw a book across the room at him, as he thought Burrell had been leaking information to Diana about his visits to Camilla. Burrell made a swift exit, and Charles called him back 10 minutes later to make a shame-faced apology.

No idea about William's temper as I don't find him sufficiently interesting to read about.

I want the monarchy to continue, but in a more Scandinavian form.

i hope that by the time William takes over his duties etc will be much reduced (along with all the attendant expenditure) and that he and his family will be able to fulfill their role while living a much less pressured life.

Then there was pen-gate and Charles' rant in the golden carriage.

Please don’t attempt to be thread monitor.
you lose all credibility when you do so.
this is a discussion, not a competition

you are the person who referenced William being hot tempered - with zero evidence. Attempting to stifle discussion about the fact Harry’s bad temper has flared in public more than once is just silly.

I imagine the royals are like normal people. Have off days when they are short tempered because their pen doesn't work, and good days when they bounce grandchildren on their knee.

@polkadotdalmation Yip and when people are stressed they are more likely to react to things.

I really do hope that lessons are learned. It's unreasonable to expect a new Monarch to visit every part of the UK days after their parent dies, whoever came up with that idea needs to give their head a wobble. Normal people would be off on compassionate leave.
And then signing all those documents on a table far too small.

Well, Charles could live another 11 -15 years

That’s bizarrely specific.