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What would Harry’s role in the Coronation have been?

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UnsureSchool32 · 06/05/2023 23:06

I was wondering if Harry was a working Royal what would his role in the Coronation have been (of course that means he didn’t go to the US etc) would he and Meghan walked behind Kate and William?

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MsWhitworth · 07/05/2023 08:09

I thought he looked relaxed, I think it works well to have him with Eugenie, Zara etc. who is close with and have the same ‘non-working’ status as him. It’s a good fit.

I guess it’s William who stands out as being lonely in a way. It’s all on him now, although I think he’s equal to it.

Whaeanui · 07/05/2023 08:16

Quokkasarecutest · 07/05/2023 08:00

I don’t think you know what that word actually means. So overly dramatic.

I absolutely do know what it means. Perhaps you don't?

No I do. The suggestion is ludicrous. People who fall out with family aren’t sociopaths. How over the top can you get.

Whaeanui · 07/05/2023 08:18

@MsWhitworth I agree, seems like he is exactly where he wants to be and if Charles did say he wanted a slimmed down monarchy, then going from 4 kids and their families plus the queens cousins, to one son and his family of 3, seems like Charles should be happy with it this way too.

Inkanta · 07/05/2023 08:20

Yes William is probably most isolated. Harry looks fine and yes it'll be a bit uncomfortable after you challenge the family system but it's healthier to be open and honest than supressed. He's moving on naturally.

90stalgia · 07/05/2023 08:21

QuintanaRoo · 07/05/2023 07:50

Camillas sister and friend acting as ladies in waiting? The page boys were also on the balcony so I assume it was working royals plus page boys/ladies in waiting. Either as a reward for helping during the service or incase anyone needed help with robes. It’s common after weddings for bridesmaids and pageboys to be on the balcony

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Camilla's friend was interviewed on the BBC and mentioned the need to manage the robes on the balcony as they are old and fragile.

MsWhitworth · 07/05/2023 08:23

after everything that he has done and the way most people feel about him, he would have to be some sort of sociopath

’Most people’? You mean some people - he has plenty of supporters, particularly amongst the young.

LIZS · 07/05/2023 08:29

*Whaeanui
They just had working royals on the balcony

Who were the two older women?

Camillas sister and friend acting as ladies in waiting? The page boys were also on the balcony so I assume it was working royals plus page boys/ladies in waiting. Either as a reward for helping during the service or incase anyone needed help with robes. It’s common after weddings for bridesmaids and pageboys to be on the balcony*

One of the ladies was interviewed by bbc in the highlights programme. Apparently it was a last minute decision to allow they and the pages onto the balcony, to assist with the manoeuvring the robes etc.I thought Louis' outfit was matching that of some of the pageboys which represented different Forces, The twin grandsons of Camilla have an older sister who had been a bridesmaid at W and K wedding and was sat with her mother and uncle in front row.

NurseCranesRolodex · 07/05/2023 09:07

EconomyClassRockstar · 07/05/2023 01:02

I don't think it even matters. The fact is that Harry is 5th in line for the throne and it was insane he was chucked into the 3rd row behind Anne's hat. They can't have it both ways. And don't get me started on the ridiculous photos from the balcony when Charles could have finally made it more inclusive and just...didn't

Inclusive by adding in non working members of RF? It was only the working members & attending children from ceremony on balcony. KC seemed to be showing the RF was considerably slimmed down.

Premiumbondbaby · 07/05/2023 09:13

EdithWeston · 07/05/2023 07:56

I think the Sussexes would have processed in immediately before the Wales (people entered in reverse order of seniority) and would have been seated in the front row between the Waleses and the Edinburghs. Prince Archie might have been there, But Princess Lili really does seem too young for the Abbey.

They would have processed back in a carriage, and been on the balcony (probably joined by Lili for that)

I doubt he'd have had a role in the ceremony, though not impossible that if they had more than one person (representing all) swearing allegiance, he might have been one of the others.

He's not a member of the Garter, but is a KCVO so could have been in those robes, and would till have held military appointments, so would have been in uniform underneath.

He hasn't said why he opted not to wear his KCVO robe yesterday.

He is Commander CVO so not entitled. Only Knights and Dames have robes.

Vermin · 07/05/2023 09:33

Including rose Hanbury’s son is an interesting one; he’s a twin I think so presumably he’s a page at the most important state event in a generation and his twin watches on tv and gets a lifetime subscription to Archewell Audio? But regardless of his father’s role and why the boy was picked on that basis, it’s either a pointed show of rumour quashing, or a strong demonstration of what Harry says - personal feelings of Kate horribly ignored by putting her son cheek by jowl with son of husband’s “mistress”

Casuaala · 07/05/2023 09:40

I think that the main differences are that he and Megan would have sat up front, and they would have been on the balcony with their children. I think some parts of the press would have cooed over the Sussex children and wowed over Megan's outfit.

MILLYmo0se · 07/05/2023 09:40

EconomyClassRockstar · 07/05/2023 01:02

I don't think it even matters. The fact is that Harry is 5th in line for the throne and it was insane he was chucked into the 3rd row behind Anne's hat. They can't have it both ways. And don't get me started on the ridiculous photos from the balcony when Charles could have finally made it more inclusive and just...didn't

Its just occurred to me, what happens if theres a tradgedy and William and children are gone (not going to hapoen obviously) does Harry have to come back and be King? He doesnt want any part of the responsibilities that go with being a working member of the RF, so he would just abdicate at that point? Or has he officially taken himself out of the running so to speak already, like an abdication in advance kinda thing

Namechanger355 · 07/05/2023 09:41

He would have pledged an oath to KC

i felt sad watching it - but truth is he probably did feel a little awkward and sad about not chatting to William but was happy to get out of there - and delighted when he landed in LAX during the early hours

he clearly has a new happy life in the country he emigrated to - like many thousands of people we know who are not chained to the country they are both in and choose to emigrate to other countries

Namechanger355 · 07/05/2023 09:42

*born in

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 07/05/2023 11:09

MILLYmo0se · 07/05/2023 09:40

Its just occurred to me, what happens if theres a tradgedy and William and children are gone (not going to hapoen obviously) does Harry have to come back and be King? He doesnt want any part of the responsibilities that go with being a working member of the RF, so he would just abdicate at that point? Or has he officially taken himself out of the running so to speak already, like an abdication in advance kinda thing

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He is still in the line of succession after Louis.

Tidsleytiddy · 07/05/2023 12:59

Is he living the life he wants? Maybe what he thought he wanted. He doesn’t look like a man who is living the life he wanted

Tidsleytiddy · 07/05/2023 13:03

tobee · 07/05/2023 01:07

"He came on his own terms, to see his Dad coronated, and then went back home afterwards to his son's birthday."

The word is crowned.

I was just thinking that!

limoncello23 · 07/05/2023 13:31

Probably would have been made Order of the Garter after accession (if not earlier) and worn that robe.

Might have processed in behind William and Kate.

Probably have been given something specific to do like William and Anne. Less important role than William, more visible than Anne.

Would have been sat in the front row with Meghan, next to William and Kate. Edward and Sophie would have been moved back, and their children bumped to 3rd row, with Princess Alexandra moved back to 4th row.

Based on the rest of the guest list, Meghan was invited but not the children. I don't think it would have made any difference if they'd been working royals as Louis was the very youngest person in the Abbey by 3 years, he didn't sit through the whole thing, and he's a year older than Archie and nearly 3 years older than Lili.

Bbq1 · 07/05/2023 13:41

He's an idiot who made his choice. He was lucky to even be invited at all under the circumstances. Seems to be hanging around Beatrice and Eugenie now the odd times that he's in public. Apparently a lip reading expert saw him mouth 'I'm going straight to the airport' or words to that effect) before the service began. He shouldn't have come.

Bbq1 · 07/05/2023 13:44

MamoruHisaishi · 07/05/2023 04:44

It’s only right that Harry was chucked into the third row. He’s a non working royal, who has said shit about William and his family. Why should william and Kate and their kids be forced to sit next to Harry or anywhere close to him? That’s just abusive. Also, what does that even mean to make it more inclusive? Charles was under no obligation to have harry on the balcony, not after what he did. At least with Edward and Sophie, they have shown themselves to be supportive team players who don’t go running to the media when they feel they’ve been slighted by the family like Harry does. Why should they force themselves to be close to him when he hasn’t shown any respect for them?

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So it was the King's fault that Harry went straight to the airport from the Abbey? He wasn't even at the palace during the balcony scene!

TrashyPanda · 07/05/2023 14:22

Nope, it was Harry’s actions in choosing to be a non-working Royal.

and his decision to scarper asap

NowMyBedsheetsSmellLikeYou · 07/05/2023 14:24

Tidsleytiddy · 07/05/2023 12:59

Is he living the life he wants? Maybe what he thought he wanted. He doesn’t look like a man who is living the life he wanted

We don’t see very much at all of his day to day life so how could you possibly know? Confused

PollyPeptide · 07/05/2023 14:59

Quokkasarecutest · 07/05/2023 05:52

I thought Harry looked very uncomfortable, he was smiling energetically in a rather false-looking way but that's to be expected

He behaved exactly like that, at the unveiling of the statue to Diana. Big smiles, pointing people out, waving. But it was somehow all quite unconvincing. And of course later it was revealed he'd been unhappy and uncomfortable.

I didn't see enough of him to really get any idea yesterday but I did notice that when he walked down the aisle, the congregation didnt really look at him. I'd thought they'd turn and watch him, but no.

Ladybug14 · 07/05/2023 15:00

Harry chose to leave and start a new life. In that new life he provided lots of criticism of his family (royals). I imagine that a lot of the things he said are true (Diana criticised the family similarly) and some things aren't true (misremembered)

I was pleased that he attended the Coronation. It felt right that he was there, but of course not being given a role as he has left the Firm, now.

I had hoped that he might bring the children and stay, make amends and leave Meghan for good.

But I was very silly to think that, as it turned out