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The lack of enthusiasm for the Coronation

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MamoruHisaishi · 02/05/2023 12:53

I know this is shallow but I think part of the reason why people aren't enthusiastic about Charles’ coronation is that neither he nor Camilla have movie star good looks plus they're both in their 70s. I bet if both were in their 30s or even 40s, and Charles looked like Pierce Brosnan and Camilla looked like Angelina Jolie, they would have the world fawning over them and their Coronation.

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Serenster · 05/05/2023 20:36

Its hardly generating income for all the plastic tat coming from China

But that tat is being bought at wholesale prices and sold for retail prices, so yes, it is generating revenue for the retailer that imports it…

Roussette · 05/05/2023 20:37

Serenster · 05/05/2023 20:36

Its hardly generating income for all the plastic tat coming from China

But that tat is being bought at wholesale prices and sold for retail prices, so yes, it is generating revenue for the retailer that imports it…

OK! Shame it's not made in this country. And profits going to China... but hey ho.

derxa · 05/05/2023 20:40

(won't be the Middleton's Party Pieces, they're in receivership!) Why @Roussette Why say this. Their website is still up. The business would have suffered during the pandemic. Why would you be gleeful about it?

Crustsamongus · 05/05/2023 20:42

I just cannot understand on what grounds a hereditary monarchy could possibly be considered acceptable in a parliamentary liberal democracy. The coronation just rubs all the worst bits about in our faces - the obscene wealth, the fact that Charles never actually had to do anything to achieve becoming king, and the servitude and admiration expected of the hoi polloi. In other European countries with monarchies, the royal family are far less removed from society - the former Dutch queen went to a distinctly progressive school and their current crown princess has opted out of receiving the yearly allowance she is entitled to. There is no way anyone in the Netherlands would have suggested the pledge of allegiance as they'd have been laughed out of the room. I could live with that, but the Windsors symbolise the British class system at its worst. Come on people, he's a 75yo multimillionaire who has never lived a day of a normal life!!!

Serenster · 05/05/2023 20:43

(won't be the Middleton's Party Pieces, they're in receivership!)

The company is reportedly for sale, yes, after being hit by Covid and Brexit as so many businesses were but not in receivership (not according to Companies House, anyway).

Is that a snide dig at the Middletons? Personally I have huge sympathy for businesses in their sector, so many have gone to the wall due to circumstances beyond their control. Events like the Coronation are a boost for those still trading, too.

Serenster · 05/05/2023 20:46

OK! Shame it's not made in this country. And profits going to China... but hey ho.

Some of it is, of course. Emma Bridgwater and several other pottery companies which will sell a load of commemorative pieces and all made in the UK. Small outfits like Biscuiteers all locally produced that are selling large amounts. And even if the manufacturer is offshore, the UK retail sector generally still profits.

Roussette · 05/05/2023 20:47

derxa · 05/05/2023 20:40

(won't be the Middleton's Party Pieces, they're in receivership!) Why @Roussette Why say this. Their website is still up. The business would have suffered during the pandemic. Why would you be gleeful about it?

I'm not gleeful about it. It's reported everywhere. They are trying to sell the company and paying someone to take it over. It's fact. Me saying so, is not 'gleeful'

They are moving on from it. Why do you think I just make things up? I wouldn't. I read it weeks ago.

Roussette · 05/05/2023 20:48

Crustsamongus · 05/05/2023 20:42

I just cannot understand on what grounds a hereditary monarchy could possibly be considered acceptable in a parliamentary liberal democracy. The coronation just rubs all the worst bits about in our faces - the obscene wealth, the fact that Charles never actually had to do anything to achieve becoming king, and the servitude and admiration expected of the hoi polloi. In other European countries with monarchies, the royal family are far less removed from society - the former Dutch queen went to a distinctly progressive school and their current crown princess has opted out of receiving the yearly allowance she is entitled to. There is no way anyone in the Netherlands would have suggested the pledge of allegiance as they'd have been laughed out of the room. I could live with that, but the Windsors symbolise the British class system at its worst. Come on people, he's a 75yo multimillionaire who has never lived a day of a normal life!!!

Absolutely. Spot on

Roussette · 05/05/2023 20:48

Serenster · 05/05/2023 20:43

(won't be the Middleton's Party Pieces, they're in receivership!)

The company is reportedly for sale, yes, after being hit by Covid and Brexit as so many businesses were but not in receivership (not according to Companies House, anyway).

Is that a snide dig at the Middletons? Personally I have huge sympathy for businesses in their sector, so many have gone to the wall due to circumstances beyond their control. Events like the Coronation are a boost for those still trading, too.

Here we go. Hmm

I am reporting what is out there. If you don't like it, don't read it!

derxa · 05/05/2023 20:55

Roussette · 05/05/2023 20:47

I'm not gleeful about it. It's reported everywhere. They are trying to sell the company and paying someone to take it over. It's fact. Me saying so, is not 'gleeful'

They are moving on from it. Why do you think I just make things up? I wouldn't. I read it weeks ago.

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Why mention it all? I feel sorry for what happened to businesses who suffered during the pandemic.

Roussette · 05/05/2023 21:01

derxa · 05/05/2023 20:55

Why mention it all? I feel sorry for what happened to businesses who suffered during the pandemic.

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Do you honestly think if it was a business connected to H&M or her mother or something, it wouldn't be done to death on here over 3 threads? Why can't I mention it?

Are we not allowed to talk about anything connected to the RF? Is that it?

From what I've read, the problems started before the pandemic. Just sayin'.
Who knows.

derxa · 05/05/2023 21:07

Roussette · 05/05/2023 21:01

Do you honestly think if it was a business connected to H&M or her mother or something, it wouldn't be done to death on here over 3 threads? Why can't I mention it?

Are we not allowed to talk about anything connected to the RF? Is that it?

From what I've read, the problems started before the pandemic. Just sayin'.
Who knows.

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What H&M have got to do with it I don't know. The Middletons will be fine but people they employ may lose their jobs

Novella4 · 05/05/2023 21:08

Yes @Crustsamongus - great post

The 'royals ' are supposed to be a uniting force .
They aren't , if they ever really were they are not now . Once you are at 50/50 in the polls ( and age groups below 65+ are easily in favour of an elected head of state), there is a problem
This problem had been quietly brewing for a longer time than people realised because nothing was going to happen until the queen had gone

The relentless propaganda is really jarring . Most people are ignoring it all - but why should citizens have to do that ?
Tourists like it the royalists say . So our democracy must be shaped to keep the tourists happy??

The gilt coaches and the pledges of allegiance to Charles and all his relatives - it is dystopian
Barriers are being put up to corral peaceful protest .The organisation Republic was sent a letter from the Home Office described as 'intimidatory '

The Windsors need to be separated from our democracy.
It is not that I want the monarchy per se destroyed I just believe they have no place in a democratic society .
They actively mitigate against true democracy
So the Windsors can continue as 'royals' but pay their taxes , no funding , no links to power

Even better , let their supporters fund them . Pay per view as people have suggested here before

vera99 · 05/05/2023 21:41

If the weather had been good tomorrow we would have gone to gawp and maybe hung around Republic at the edges of Trafalgar Square and amiably chatted to the protestors. But given that it is likely to pee down we can't be arsed.

Strip the human race, absolutely naked, and it would be a real democracy. But the introduction of even a rag of tiger skin, or a cow tail, could make a badge of distinction and be the beginning of a monarchy.
- Mark Twain's Notebook

The lack of enthusiasm for the Coronation
poppysockies · 05/05/2023 21:42

The same handful of (Republicans? Harry and Meghan fans?) on this thread continue to insist in there’s ‘no interest in the coronation’ yet seem barely able to talk about anything else!

The RF really are living rent-free in their heads!

Roussette · 05/05/2023 21:54

poppysockies · 05/05/2023 21:42

The same handful of (Republicans? Harry and Meghan fans?) on this thread continue to insist in there’s ‘no interest in the coronation’ yet seem barely able to talk about anything else!

The RF really are living rent-free in their heads!

We have no choice. It's everywhere

polkadotdalmation · 05/05/2023 21:57

derxa · 05/05/2023 20:40

(won't be the Middleton's Party Pieces, they're in receivership!) Why @Roussette Why say this. Their website is still up. The business would have suffered during the pandemic. Why would you be gleeful about it?

Why do you think? Nasty comments but to be expected. Makes a massive deal if anyone says anything about M&H, and in particular their children but happy to enjoy the fact someone's livelihood may/may not be in trouble.

polkadotdalmation · 05/05/2023 22:01

Millions of people around the world will be watching, millions in the UK will be watching, thousands (despite the rain) will be there in person, and plenty of parties and celebrations in local areas. It will bring billions in additional revenue and raise the profile the the UK.

Based on that who give a flying fuck what some miserable anti royalists on here, who populate, manipulate and take over the royal family threads, think or say.

vera99 · 05/05/2023 22:09

I respect all religions pretty much as most at their heart have a spiritual dimension that tries to make sense of our brief existences on this planet and if done well promote good and have a sense of community. I wouldn't seek to criticize them or their adherents.

It seems the Royal Family for many occupies the same space, a sense of purpose, identity, community, shared values that the manufactured construct of a nation state can gather round. We have come a long way from our barbaric past when the Kings were the ultimate robber barons and war lords who executed their power by the sword, the compliant Church and the propagation of a myth of their divine right.

What we will see tomorrow is a continuation of that myth built upon centuries of accrued wealth and privilege and management of the narrative. If as a species we were to truly understand our place in the universe and who we are as people then maybe we could grow to a new level of consciousness. Where nations dissolve and people live freely amongst their fellow humans in non-exploitative relationships, at peace cognisant of the brief passage of our time upon the earth. Tomorrow will be a heresy to that belief system I hold, but I will watch it more in sorrow than in anger. I'm afraid the lie that it helps tourism and the alternatives could be much worse just don't cut that utopianism, but thankfully Carl Sagan does !

Well that's what I think anyway, as the neighbour at the party edges away with a nervous smile and makes the silent gesture of getting a drink not to return......

Carl Sagan - Pale Blue Dot

Pale Blue Dot

https://youtu.be/wupToqz1e2g

Roussette · 05/05/2023 22:17

polkadotdalmation · 05/05/2023 21:57

Why do you think? Nasty comments but to be expected. Makes a massive deal if anyone says anything about M&H, and in particular their children but happy to enjoy the fact someone's livelihood may/may not be in trouble.

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Stop making everything so personal. It's odd.
I wasn't talking about children
I am talking about something completely different

Roussette · 05/05/2023 22:18

Based on that who give a flying fuck what some miserable anti royalists on here, who populate, manipulate and take over the royal family threads, think or say

Oh do give over. Last I heard we lived in a free country and able to express an opinion.

Roussette · 05/05/2023 22:20

Great post @vera99

AskMeMore · 05/05/2023 22:33

poppysockies · 05/05/2023 21:42

The same handful of (Republicans? Harry and Meghan fans?) on this thread continue to insist in there’s ‘no interest in the coronation’ yet seem barely able to talk about anything else!

The RF really are living rent-free in their heads!

Not a Harry and Meghan fan. But there are Royalists who care about the coronation and anti Monarchists against it. But most people are meh about it. That is a fact.

AskMeMore · 05/05/2023 22:35

Thanks Rousette. No wonder coverage is so fawning.