The markel family interview

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Anyone know how/where I can watch it? :) I think it's on today ....

Where has anyone said no other countries are racist?

I think this is the thing that confuses me - it’s as if people don’t believe that this country has a very real problem with racism. It’s like people ignore all of the reports that come from all sectors which point to it but heaven forbid H&M mention it.

Unless you are saying that your vote should count more than that of other citizens?

Yes, racism is a problem in the UK. And in the USA - where they have chosen to live to 'escape' the racism.

But its a majority because the maouris were slaughtered? The whites are the majity due to genocide.

Well, democracy is majority rule.

Is colonisation democratic? How easy it is of you to just dismiss the fact indigenous people are outnumbered on their own lands by their colonisers. You’ll never understand what that feels like and quite clearly, you don’t care.

This lot are a bunch of tasteless, bottom feeding scumbags. They weren't part of M's upbringing. I've got "step relatives" I've not seen in 20 years, the thought of them commenting on my life on camera would be awful. I've never known them. I'm not huge H & M fans, particularly but nobody deserves this. I suspect this aspect of M's family are the real reason there was so much effort to dissuade the marriage going ahead. The RF knew all about this wing, of course.

I studied civil war with the OU as part of a Masters in Development, and one of the case studies was Northern Ireland. It was fascinating.

But you come to the point where people have lived somewhere for e.g. 300 years and many generations. There comes a point where it becomes their home, the place they have lived for their whole life, and their parents and grandparents and their family history is embedded there.

How long do you need to have family roots before you can 'truly' belong?

What about people whose parents or grandparents have moved to the UK? Do they have fewer rights to vote and be considered UK citizens?

Where did Meghan did conflate Archie's skin colour with security.
Meghan did not say the whole of the UK were racist. Dalmation is twisting the words to create a lie.

Dalmation is twisting the words to create a lie. this happens frequently

What do you suggest going forward? What happened was wrong. How can that be put right? People of indigenous descent have their votes counting double?

What about people whose ancestors were deported from the UK because they stole to support their family? And endured the horrendous conditions of transportation, and have lived for generations as NZ citizens? Do they have any rights?

In the OW interview

This wasnt a civil war. They were invaded. I dont think you can compare my Turkish neighbours to invaders.

No they didn’t go to the US to escape racism.

Ive not seen the interview. What were her exact words?

Another day I'm glad that Meghan set herself free from her Father and those half-siblings. She has lost and mourned him, thank God for Doria 😍

Well, one of the first things we looked at was the definition of 'war'. And by some definitions the situation on Northern Ireland c. 1970-Good Friday Agreement was a civil war. Also South Africa from the Soweto Uprising to c.1990.

The 'invasion' of Northern Ireland was 300 or so years ago. Yes, a deliberate choice by the English/Scottish governments of the day to settle Ireland with Protestants. But does that mean that it is OK to make their descendants second class citizens?

Yes it was the press.

You said nobody was forced. I answered you. You are talking about something else to deflect from the simple truth. Colonisation means you forced or invaded us and now we don’t control who is our head of state, despite a treaty agreement that has never been upheld.

What do I suggest going forward? That’s what you have to say? Britain goes to other places and causes decades of trouble and messiness and now I’m to come up with a solution?

let’s see… I’ll start with getting 100% of the value of my grandmothers ( not some relative I didn’t know ) stolen fucking land, seen as we only got 8% of the value so far. How about we start there. Honour the treaty which granted us sovereignty, that’s the first thing actually, and give us the real value of our land. Sadly we can’t do anything to undo the lost genealogy after soldiers mass raped Maori women at Parihaka when they imprisoned the men but let’s start with sovereignty and see how that goes.

I don’t know if I was being asked about Ireland, but fuck knows about that. Britain created a fucking mess there too huh. I’m also Irish.

'There were conversations ...about no security, no title... and how dark his skin might be when he’s born.'

Transcript available here- Meghan Markle Oprah interview: read the full transcript of Duchess and Prince Harry's bombshell confessions | The Sun

Well, I'm all for you getting the 100% value of your grandmothers land. And treaties being adhered to.

But as I am not a citizen of NZ, or an elector, I am not sure what you would like me to do?

Colonisation was wrong.

As a British citizen and voter I can have some (small) influence over the NI situation.

What could I, personally, do that would remove my historic guilt for what was done? What is in my control that would satisfy you?

Please let me know.

I thought it had all been agreed that after Charles it would be an elected Head.

Also Thomas Markle has been 'near death' for damn near five years now, it's getting super 😴

Im not reading a whole hpur long interview. What were words that said Archie wasnt given protection because of his skin colour.

You've mentioned it so you must have the exact words.