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The markel family interview

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IamSuperTired · 30/04/2023 14:39

Anyone know how/where I can watch it? :) I think it's on today ....

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 02/05/2023 09:50

Knowing Meghan had these embarrassing relatives in the wings, it’s hard to say how the situation could have been handled better. Kate invited her dodgy uncle to her wedding. Perhaps Meghan should have done the same. Kept them on side, given them a free holiday, NDAs signed, allowed them to benefit a tiny bit from her good fortune.

Everyone will say ‘why on earth should she invite horrible relatives she hates to her wedding?’ And yes, it would have felt galling. But it would have been shrewd - it probably would have helped to avoid the PR carcrash that marked the beginning of the end for her and Harry.

Her father was invited. His suit was ready, (eventually bought by a boxer who wore it to Ascot that year) Even he revealed in an interview with Piers that he had been measured for this suit in LA, the Queens bootmakers had fitted him out with new shoes, his ticket bought.

He then did that silly pap stuff and told her through TMZ that he wasn't coming.

Samantha and Thomas are a different kettle of fish.

Not only were they NOT in their sister's lives (they did not even go to her first wedding), but around the time the engagement was announced, both Thomas and Samantha were involved in domestic violence brawls with their partners. They had also, as soon as the relationship was announced, started talking to the press, very pointed and horrible comments. It was endless. They also freely admitted they were estranged from her and each other. Thomas also talked about his father visiting prostitutes in Thailand while he was married to Doria.

If you have not followed the story from 2016, it is easy to miss how chaotic it all was.

But it was truly chaotic. There is no way inviting the Markle siblings, especially Samantha, would have ended well.

In the same way that it was wise that Meghan stay away from the Coronation to keep the focus where it should be, it was wise not to invite these people.

What has made things worse is that the media has actively encouraged the Markles to speak to her through the press. The tabloids have weaponised this family conflict, with Thomas Markle as a willing pawn.

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 09:51

Rockybooboo · 02/05/2023 09:46

This was about CHILDREN. You can defend yourself.

Well, tatalan was perfectly happy to attack DD

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 09:53

Presumably because DD has been 'corrupted' by having a white moter.

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 09:54

Sorry, mother

Iwasafool · 02/05/2023 09:55

Lampzade · 02/05/2023 09:32

Kate’s was close to her ‘dodgy’ uncle. They had an ongoing relationship .
Meghan was not close to her half siblings and hadn’t seen them for a number of years.
Her father was supposed to give her away but didn’t turn up to the wedding. He was too busy selling stories about his own child
Also, Meghan alluded to the fact that she was advised not to invite certain people to the wedding .. One has to remember that this was an American woman who was entering the Royal Family and was taking advice from people who she thought had her best interest at heart.

Wasn't her father in hospital? I thought he had a heart attack or stroke or something.

Lampzade · 02/05/2023 09:56

MamoruHisaishi · 02/05/2023 09:44

I call BS on this. Meghan invited Hollywood celebrities like George Clooney and Oprah who she hadn't even met before the wedding, over the likes of her own niece who she was supposedly close to. There is no way that the royal family would have encouraged Meghan to invite celebrities she didn't know over her own family members like her niece, her mother’s side of the family and yes even her dad.

It would have ‘benefited’ Meghan to have invited Samantha’s daughter because it would have proved that Samantha was the problem. It would have drawn attention to the fact that Samantha was a terrible mother whose own daughter loved and respected Meghan
Meghan would have been aware of this , which is why I believe her when she alluded to the fact that she was told not to invite her niece

Sudeko · 02/05/2023 09:57

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 09:51

Well, tatalan was perfectly happy to attack DD

Very true. Yours is a real relationship with a child whom you have loved and nurtured for years. That is a lot more insulting then a comment about children we only know about through a few pictures in a newspaper. It is quite mad.

Whaeanui · 02/05/2023 09:57

@mixedrecycling this thread isn’t about your daughter. If someone attacked her thankfully the offensive posts are removed. Why don’t you address your offensive posts about racism on this thread ? You were laughing at us for addressing racism on the thread, mocking and making snide remarks. A lot has been written about your behaviour here but you keep deflecting to your daughter. Why?

Whaeanui · 02/05/2023 09:58

@Sudeko it’s not a competition. The comments are no longer there so many people haven’t seen them. I remarked on the comments by @Janiie as they’re there, I can see them and they’re relevant to the family the thread is about.

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 09:59

Sudeko · 02/05/2023 09:57

Very true. Yours is a real relationship with a child whom you have loved and nurtured for years. That is a lot more insulting then a comment about children we only know about through a few pictures in a newspaper. It is quite mad.

Well, yes. Although as I am white it doesn't count!

skullbabe · 02/05/2023 09:59

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 09:51

Well, tatalan was perfectly happy to attack DD

I missed the posts - they were deleted. It is always wrong to attack children - always.

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 10:00

skullbabe · 02/05/2023 09:59

I missed the posts - they were deleted. It is always wrong to attack children - always.

Something we can agree on!

MrsMaxDeWinter · 02/05/2023 10:02

You know perfectly well that your DD was not attacked @mixedrecycling . Posters have commented about you using the fact that you have a black daughter to attack and mock posters who are talking about racism.

Please just stop. You are deliberately derailing the thread.

Rhondaa · 02/05/2023 10:03

MrsMaxDeWinter · 02/05/2023 10:02

You know perfectly well that your DD was not attacked @mixedrecycling . Posters have commented about you using the fact that you have a black daughter to attack and mock posters who are talking about racism.

Please just stop. You are deliberately derailing the thread.

But she's sharing her experience? Please don't try and police what people are allowed to share.

Whaeanui · 02/05/2023 10:03

MrsMaxDeWinter · 02/05/2023 08:22

@skullbabe

I think you have addressed beautifully the black people as Pokemon cards phenomenon but I do want respond to this statement you got in response.

Well, as a white woman the experiences of DD and my black friends are the best education I have about lived experiences of racism. So of course I reference them

I want to address it to agree with what @Whaeanui has said.

Using the experiences of a black girl to undermine discussions about racism, to mock those raising racism, and using those experiences to minimise the experiences of others while supporting a worryingly narrow world view is not the path I would have thought a white mother of a black child would happily travel.

Then again, it should not be assumed that adopting a black child makes white parents immune to racism and racist thinking,

Here is a brilliant article on the subject.

As the primary caretakers of children of color, white adoptive parents are required to address race and racism in ways that few other white individuals find necessary. Yet, adoptive parents are not immune to racist, stereotypical, and tokenizing beliefs about non-white racial and ethnic groups and raise their children within these racist logics.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2020/08/26/abby-johnsons-comments-about-her-adopted-black-son-are-problematic-heres-why/

I think this was ignored by those who should read it so quoting it again for emphasis.

Rockybooboo · 02/05/2023 10:04

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 09:51

Well, tatalan was perfectly happy to attack DD

Did she actually attack your child? What words did she use?

To be fair you brought your child into the thread to demonstate you couldn' t be racist. She's anonymous to us.

We know who Archie and Lilli are so @Janiie was being far more personal

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 10:04

Racism causes a huge amount of damage. But the accusation of racism is also used as a way of closing down discussion

Whaeanui · 02/05/2023 10:05

Rhondaa · 02/05/2023 10:03

But she's sharing her experience? Please don't try and police what people are allowed to share.

Are you suggesting black posters can’t ask for people not to mock us talking about racism? Please don’t police what requests are made on this thread by black posters talking about racism.

Sudeko · 02/05/2023 10:05

Perhaps it is best if we discuss royals without bringing our own personal relationships into it (even though our opinions and feelings are undeniably informed by our own stories). I don't think there should be pile-ons or cross references to other posts.

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 10:06

Signing out now... have fun!

skullbabe · 02/05/2023 10:06

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 09:53

Presumably because DD has been 'corrupted' by having a white moter.

Sigh

That’s not what people have been saying. Please take a moment away from this thread - maybe read the article.

But right now your defensiveness is making you say things that could be construed as mocking people of colour and taking the focus away from the discussions of racism against black and biracial people in this conversation and other conversations we may be having to you and your feelings (however justified or valid you may feel they are).

Whaeanui · 02/05/2023 10:07

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 10:04

Racism causes a huge amount of damage. But the accusation of racism is also used as a way of closing down discussion

Yup. In this instance, you are being asked not to laugh and mock black and brown posters who are challenging racism. What is it you think we are trying to close down when we ask you not to laugh at us addressing things we, as people of colour, think is racist.

Rhondaa · 02/05/2023 10:07

Rockybooboo · 02/05/2023 10:04

Did she actually attack your child? What words did she use?

To be fair you brought your child into the thread to demonstate you couldn' t be racist. She's anonymous to us.

We know who Archie and Lilli are so @Janiie was being far more personal

But I wasn't attacking them! I wouldn't. I suggested in years to come I wonder if we'll hear their truth via media shows. What is wrong with that?!

Anywayyy moving on..

8roses · 02/05/2023 10:09

There is a massive shortage of black adopters and yet ethnic minority children are over represented in the care system. Long term foster care has much much poorer outcomes for children than adoption, especially for younger children. More ethnicity minority adopters are urgently needed. How can this be achieved?

Rockybooboo · 02/05/2023 10:11

Rhondaa · 02/05/2023 10:07

But I wasn't attacking them! I wouldn't. I suggested in years to come I wonder if we'll hear their truth via media shows. What is wrong with that?!

Anywayyy moving on..

Because they're children. Why bring them into it all! Have you got kids yourself ?

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