The markel family interview

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Anyone know how/where I can watch it? :) I think it's on today ....

I'm sorry you are 'uncomfortable'

Yes one can only imagine what Archie and Lili will be producing in 20 years time

The Markles and the Sussexes. All cashing in.

All the Markles appear to be cut from the same cloth, it's all about the money and how much you can make. One family member is ahead by miles and the others aren't happy about it, egged on by the green eyed monster (another Markle trait) and Dan Wootton they aren't going to throw in the towel just yet. Books, interviews, court cases they have all done it, the only difference is one of them can afford better PR. The Markles really are creating their own RF soap but not quite in the way Meghan had envisaged!

It is about money but also about gripes, slights and non stop grievances. Where is their resilience why are they all (Sussexes obviously included) so easily upset and so very keen to get revenge by lashing out and slinging mud. All so undignified.

Nice 🧐

Let's bring little children in to it now shall we?

A pyramid scheme 😂😂

Speak for yourself. I'm a woman of colour and I don't feel uncomfortable with what mixedrecycling wrote. It was sarcasm on her part because it seems that there's a tendency for Meghan’s fans to accuse others of racism if they criticise her or express even a slight dislike of her. It's like they can't comprehend that yes, people can dislike Meghan without being racist.

No you're not.
You're loving it

You nasty person talking about little kids like that.

@skullbabe

I think you have addressed beautifully the black people as Pokemon cards phenomenon but I do want respond to this statement you got in response.

Well, as a white woman the experiences of DD and my black friends are the best education I have about lived experiences of racism. So of course I reference them

I want to address it to agree with what @Whaeanui has said.

Using the experiences of a black girl to undermine discussions about racism, to mock those raising racism, and using those experiences to minimise the experiences of others while supporting a worryingly narrow world view is not the path I would have thought a white mother of a black child would happily travel.

Then again, it should not be assumed that adopting a black child makes white parents immune to racism and racist thinking,

Here is a brilliant article on the subject.

As the primary caretakers of children of color, white adoptive parents are required to address race and racism in ways that few other white individuals find necessary. Yet, adoptive parents are not immune to racist, stereotypical, and tokenizing beliefs about non-white racial and ethnic groups and raise their children within these racist logics.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2020/08/26/abby-johnsons-comments-about-her-adopted-black-son-are-problematic-heres-why/

@KrasiTime I've seen both and you're completely right. I did feel sorry for Thomas because he's clearly not got much longer to live. The adult children are not pleasant people and prepared to make money off the back of their relationship with Meghan.

Meghan and Harry have done exactly the same to the royal family and Meghan has ghosted her own father, who she declared she loved 5 years ago. Apparently his 36 years of love and care for her added up to nothing. All because he talked to the press..which she has done for years pursuing her career. All I can say is I hope she now realises that her actions have consequences. She set out to destroy Harry's family with his approval, so the pair are as bad as the markles.

Ive reported this comment. It's vile.

I agree.

All because he talked to the press..which she has done for years pursuing her career.

He did far more than that. Why are you minimising what he did while claiming, falsely, that she had never taken about Doria before she married Harry?

He set up pap photos and lied to her when she asked him, told him he wasn't coming to her wedding through TMZ, then went on to blackmail her as well as to associate with dodgy characters who spread conspiracy theories about her children.

Gosh, I can't believe how busy it is on here this morning!

@MrsMaxDeWinter thank you again for addressing that & thank you @Roussette it’s quite clear they’re not sorry we are uncomfortable otherwise they’d stop laughing about racism and trying to minimise it.

MrsMaxDeWinter you articulate a lot of good sense this morning. You're so right!

She set out to destroy Harry's family with his approval, so the pair are as bad as the markles.

This is nonsense and to compare her to white people who wear blackface to insult and mock her is just wrong.

Of course not sorry

Anything, but anything to score points and also denigrate Meghan if there's an opportunity to do so.

@Whaeanui @Roussette

It is what it is. Anything to score points.

Every stick in the world is used to beat Meghan, even to the point of shamefully siding with her very unpleasant father, sister and brother.

The racism she experienced, and continues to experience is minimised.

The hounding from the press is minimised.

The emotional blackmail from her father is minimised.

The hounding by a half-sister she last saw in 2008 and a half-brother she last saw in 2010, long before she met Harry, is justified.

Her professional achievements are minimised.

Her mental anguish is minimised.

Even her miscarriage is minimised.

'I've seen both and you're completely right. I did feel sorry for Thomas because he's clearly not got much longer to live. The adult children are not pleasant people and prepared to make money off the back of their relationship with Meghan.'

Yes it's all so very sad and tragic. Both sides slinging mud for money and to tell their 'truths'. Ugh.

Please stop mocking people who are calling out genuine racist tropes and behaviours. This is like a misogynist who starts calling everything women’s lib when criticised.

Wow.

It's my opinion that Meghan didn't come across well, as I don't think she wanted to sound silly or California woo. And I doubt she wanted to come across as pretentious either.

I also don't have strong opinions on Meghan the way I do with Harry because she is who she is. She was an influencer/blogger/actress when she met Harry and I think Harry was the one who failed her. I also think she unfairly gets blamed for his screw ups and was also the victim of misogyny when she was blamed for brain washing Harry and ‘stealing’ him away. As if Harry was some naive child who didn't know what he was doing.

I'm also not denying that there may have been speculation regarding what the baby would look like, but my issue is that in the Oprah interview, Meghan agreed with Oprah when she said that there were concerns about how dark the baby’s skin colour would be. Wondering whether the baby would inherit their mother’s complexion or their father’s hair, even if considered a micro aggression, is far different to raising concerns about how dark someone's child would turn out.

Also, again, there seems to be some sort of dismissal regarding what Meghan herself has claimed regarding the treatment she received from the royal family. She has claimed that it was more to do with her being American than being black. It was to do with her not getting mental help from the royal family (even though that should have been Harry’s job). It was to do with her and Harry not wanting to follow the royal hierarchy where they were meant to support the future heirs, it was to do with not being allowed to make money as working royals, it was to do with supposed leakings from members of the royal family (even without direct evidence), it was to do with supposedly the palace not continuously defending Meghan whenever there were negative stories about her (despite Catherine, Diana and Fergie and Beatrice and Eugene having endured the same).

Harry’s book also doesn't really show any instances of racism towards Meghan by the royal family, rather their grievances were more to do with Kate not looking happy to be sharing her lip gloss (even though she was pregnant at the time and some people just find it unhygienic to share lipgloss), or that both William and Kate weren't huggers and weren't as warm towards Meghan (who was a complete stranger to them at the time).

I'm all for the truth if there were instances of racism that Meghan endured from the royal family, but so far the only one mentioned by Meghan and Harry so far ended up being denied/minimized/dismissed by them.