The markel family interview

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Anyone know how/where I can watch it? :) I think it's on today ....

Back to the Markles: Samantha popped up on GBNews last night, together with a woman (Carole Malone?) who writes for DM, castigating Meghan for not being in touch with her father.

Funny that no-one ever mentions that he sold her letter to the DM, leading to a drawn out court case that she believes contributed to her miscarriage.

And now they think they can bully her into making nice with him??

I find it funny that Dan Wootton in his interviews with her always stuff like "You know how much I love your family."

"You are such a tight-knit family"

"Thomas is a decent guy, a good guy."

It's such blatant agenda setting as it is the complete opposite of reality, you really can only laugh.

It must be an uneasy undertaking to try to reconcile her ordinary childhood with the moneyed philanthropist image she is trying to cultivate since she married Harry.

You are aware that she did more charity work than most actors at her level prior to meeting Harry.

Funny that no-one ever mentions that he sold her letter to the DM, leading to a drawn out court case that she believes contributed to her miscarriage.

Many do mention the letter to bring up how Megan wrote it with the idea that it might be leaked in mind as a way to further castigate her and they hand wave away the fact that for the letter to be released, her father had to release it and get paid for it. We wouldn’t know about the letter if he hadn’t done that.

And now they think they can bully her into making nice with him??

They don't want to her to make nice they want to make money and Dan Wootton seems quite happy to pay them.

*I find it funny that Dan Wootton in his interviews with her always stuff like "You know how much I love your family."

"You are such a tight-knit family"

"Thomas is a decent guy, a good guy."

It's such blatant agenda setting as it is the complete opposite of reality, you really can only laugh.*

Wow, that’s some disingenuous crap isn’t it?

Goodness me. I'll let DD know that she isn't black. Actually, given her birth parents were - unfortunately - born black in apartheid SA, I think she has the documents to prove it.

Not that she needs any documents. She is confident and proud about her identity

The snobbery in this statement is very English isn't it. Yet another reason that people just don't like Meghan. She got "above" herself, above her station. All people like this see is the "ordinary childhood' and the "Duchess" status.

It is all part of the dehumanising of Meghan. They define her by what they say her father, and then the royal Family "gave" to her. Her own achievements are belittled to nothing, D list actress with minor role on a show no one watched running a blog that no one read, fake humanitarian etc.

The year they left, I argued with some African American women on a different forum who were saying there was a slave-master vibe to the way she was being treated by her father and the tabloids.

I now see what they mean. There is a narrative that she is a "creation" of her father, and a "creation" of the Royal Family. Everything she did between childhood and marrying Harry is dismissed because the narrative has to be maintained that she is "owned" by and "owes" her father, and she is "owned" by and "owes" the Royal Family.

I see now what the women I argued with saw then: when people speak in terms that suggest "ownership" of a woman whose ancestors were slaves, it raises its own layers!

Many do mention the letter to bring up how Megan wrote it with the idea that it might be leaked in mind as a way to further castigate her and they hand wave away the fact that for the letter to be released, her father had to release it and get paid for it. We wouldn’t know about the letter if he hadn’t done that.

TM had that letter for six months before he gave it to the DM, MM friends disclosed its very existence in an interview in People magazine, they made everyone aware of it, as you well know.

And yet a couple of months ago we had an assessment of need through post-adoption - by black professionals as I wanted the trans-racial aspects considered - who said I am doing a great job of supporting her identity as a black girl!

But do feel free to join @tatalan in their personal attacks, just because I have different point of view

It is stuff like this that makes people uncomfortable with your constant reference to your black daughter to justify views that come across as narrow and myopic.

You say that her "parents were - unfortunately - born black in apartheid SA."

It is NOT unfortunate to be born black. Blackness is not a pitiable condition, it is not leprosy or other communicable disease. It was not unfortunate to be born black in apartheid South Africa,

Even if you meant that it was apartheid that was "unfortunate", it is a spectacular minimising of a system of racial discrimination that was so dehumanising that there is a UN resolution that calls apartheid a form of genocide.

Meghan is definitely better educated on race than the white members of her family, including her brother who uses blackface, and her father who spoke with certainty that Meghan had experienced no racism all in the press. I hope that, in the same way, your daughter will get a better education on race and the history of her own country than she will get from you if this display is anything to go by. And I wish her well.

Ok - so why release it?

@StormzyinaTCup had a go at me derailing the thread 8 pages ago by talking about my family and my direct experience of racism through colonisation but the thread has since been dominated by @mixedrecycling talking about her experiences of racism as a white British woman.

Saying Meghan wrote to her father is quite different from releasing a private letter. We hear stories all the time about letters, don’t we.

' do feel some sympathy for her Dad, who is clearly unwell and was very likely misled by the press. M has now done Oprah and Netflix, so what’s the difference'

This. The Markles and Sussexes are all as grabby and tacky as each other.

Yes, apartheid was appalling. Actually the systematic dispossession of land and other resources started under the British administration - the Glen Grey Act of 1894, for example, that restricted black land ownership.

Plus the imposition of cash taxes to force cheap migrant labour to the gold and diamond mines.

Always happy to talk SA history! I have a history and sociology degree from Unisa - the model for the UK's Open University

To disprove comments made in the press. A bit, you know, like the Sussexes doing Reality shows and Harold spilling all in his trashy book.

I don’t quite think you understood what she was saying.

And so cynical to NOT release those parts of the letter that talked of how he was being manipulated by the tabloids. Those sections were blacked out, only then for Thomas to hint that those sections were "horrible" beyond belief.

Oh and then Thomas offered to be a witness for the Daily Mail, against his own daughter.

Who experienced a miscarriage while all of this was going on.

And Thomas expects to meet the grandkids and play the doting grandpa. Get outta here!

I haven't experienced racism! What a strange claim! DD has. Being called a ni**er by a random man on a bus on her way to school, for example.

@MrsMaxDeWinter exactly! It’s outrageous people on a parenting forum think this is an acceptable way for parents to behave, a parents role and responsibility is quite different to a child’s. I’ve had an often difficult relationship from my father, he’s from a racist family so there’s been a lot of confrontation by me over the years and my father would never ever do any of this nor sit next to someone who did blackface to impersonate me or anyone in my family.

And yet a couple of months ago we had an assessment of need through post-adoption - by black professionals as I wanted the trans-racial aspects considered - who said I am doing a great job of supporting her identity as a black girl!

I know you don’t mean it to come across this way but black people are not Pokémon cards to use to counter an argument. I think that a needs assessment for your child would definitely prove that you are showing great support however there are many things that you have said that wouldn’t ever come up in a needs assessment meeting with professionals black or otherwise that are concerning. Regardless - this conversation about your child should stop now.

Yes but again, the Sussexes ars just as bad! It is hilarious that you're being so cat's bum faced about Markle Senior when we've had reality shows from Markle Junior and a book/non stop chat show appearances from Harold. They are all as bad as each other .

@skullbabe I don’t quite think you understood what she was saying. Indeed. Quite a lot is being misunderstood isn’t it.

Because he felt he had a right to reply.