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William says Kate always looks stunning.

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jeffgoldblum · 21/04/2023 13:08

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Pardon the Apple News link !
I saw this earlier and I might be a big romantic but it really touched me ! 🥹
It was very a very heartfelt and unneeded comment and for me shows that he's still wild about her after all this time they have been together.

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Roussette · 21/04/2023 20:38

carriedout · 21/04/2023 20:36

LMAO at the idea Hilary Mantel was jealous of Kate Middleton Grin

Yes, I am sure she envied Kate's literary career and creative legacy.

I think --hope- you are being facetious!

Iamacatslave · 21/04/2023 20:43

Leave Hilary Mantel out of this bitch fest!

jeffgoldblum · 21/04/2023 20:45

I will never forget saying to my husband that I wished I looked like cindy Crawford and him replying' I glad you don't, your better looking'
❤️

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Roussette · 21/04/2023 20:45

Iamacatslave · 21/04/2023 20:43

Leave Hilary Mantel out of this bitch fest!

Yes please!

carriedout · 21/04/2023 20:46

Roussette · 21/04/2023 20:38

I think --hope- you are being facetious!

Yes I am being sarcastic about the envy. HM was extremely talented and skillful.

MysteryBelle · 21/04/2023 20:48

A sweet thing for Prince William to say about Princess Catherine. And it was unscripted which makes it romantic. I’m American and love my country’s story and at the same time I can relate to the fairytale magic of princesses and princes, minus the negative aspects intertwined with the reality of all that, which I think we all agree are not right, like privileges taken at the expense of the “non” royal public. I like fairy stories in the sense that I think every woman deserves to be beautiful and a princess. If she wants to, lots of women don’t of course. The servant of the princess deserves to be the princess too. We are all equal in worth and dignity. What I really take away from these stories and discussions about royalty is that it is fun to put on makeup at times, the mascara and lipstick, and the pretty day dress to have a wonderful day doing something productive, helpful to others, and magical at the same time, and would be fun to wear an evening gown like Cinderella or wedding with the tiara and the ceremony extravaganza. I haven’t explained myself well I know but I hope the gist of what I’m saying is coming across. What we can do is be the best we can be, regardless of our circumstances and do the best we can with the good things we’ve been given and also be proud of what we’ve accomplished ourselves whether it’s taking care of our families, having a career we feel is making a difference, anything that is good and decent in a world that seems to value all the opposite things.

ratherbepaddleboarding · 21/04/2023 20:49

Kvetching · 21/04/2023 20:33

I think Kate is a plain woman who makes the best of herself. See also Princess Di. She has a good figure and is tall, so that helps.

Meghan is very beautiful.

Beauty is very subjective.

I think they are both undeniably attractive women. But I can't see that Meghan has anything that Kate doesn't.

DuchessOfSausage · 21/04/2023 20:52

@ratherbepaddleboarding , your quote makes it look like you think I am being sarky. I'm not.
I think Kate is beautiful, but don't think MM is (I think she is pretty). That's what I see. Someone else may see something else.

Princess Di wasn't conventionally beautiful, but she had 'it'.

I know some women who aren't stunning but somehow seem to light up when photographed.

jeffgoldblum · 21/04/2023 20:54

@MysteryBelle , nice post! 😊
I hate to sound snarky ... but I started this thread because I thought it was a romantic comment, I didn't think it would devolve into a discussion about a woman or women's looks .
Just a cute insight into a husband's thoughts about his wife !

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moomoomoo27 · 21/04/2023 20:55

He is like his dad and has multiple women on the go. Tale as old as time for royals.

It's easier to be sweet and romantic when you have a variety and can never get bored.

Iwasafool · 21/04/2023 20:55

MouthfulofMidwinter · 21/04/2023 20:31

Only if you don't read it properly. Link to the full essay here:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v35/n04/hilary-mantel/royal-bodies

But you didn't post the full essay. You posted a piece that I think sounded quite nasty, I don't think commenting on someone being painfully thin is any more acceptable than calling someone fat. As to the painting maybe the issue was the artist rather than the subject or then again it was just her interpretation.

Sudeko · 21/04/2023 20:57

Nowadays, princes don't usually win the most beautiful, wealthy aristocratic girls because they are often less wealthy than your Arnaults and your Gettys. Their wealth is mostly tied up in complicated trusts and they need to find someone willing to perform a public facing role and accept the good and the bad of that. They often lack personality due to being wrapped up in cotton wool and believing that their titles makes them desirable in themselves.

The women they would primarily like to attract usually marry men who are far wealthier and comparatively anonymous. that is why these two princes have ended up married to conventionally attractive, socially ambitious women with no family wealth to speak of.

Roussette · 21/04/2023 20:58

We are all equal in worth and dignity

I take from your post @MysteryBelle this. And I hope it's just this!

I have adult DDs and I am just glad they don't define themselves by beauty and what others think of them.

So well done on your post, I am taking it in I hope the spirit in which it was posted!

Mark19735 · 21/04/2023 20:58

I'm sure there's people who find Sophie Corcoran and Katie Hopkins beautiful, too. It's a marvellous and diverse world indeed ... just that some don't realise that it's everyone else who is normal and that they are the outliers.

jeffgoldblum · 21/04/2023 20:59

moomoomoo27 · 21/04/2023 20:55

He is like his dad and has multiple women on the go. Tale as old as time for royals.

It's easier to be sweet and romantic when you have a variety and can never get bored.

That's a horrible and unproven accusation, how would you feel if you were out and heard people saying your partner was definitely having an affair, with no proof?
Think before you post horrible comments!

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vera99 · 21/04/2023 21:03

MouthfulofMidwinter · 21/04/2023 20:31

Only if you don't read it properly. Link to the full essay here:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v35/n04/hilary-mantel/royal-bodies

I wasn't aware of her work before now but that's one hell of an essay from one hell of a writer. She should have handed back the Damehood though as it's almost a case of let them have cake and eat it to paraphrase Marie Antoinette who "was a woman eaten alive by her frocks." Thanks for sharing these beautiful, siren voices.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 21/04/2023 21:07

Iwasafool · 21/04/2023 20:17

She does sound quite nasty in that piece.

Yep she didn’t cover herself in glory with those remarks and neither did the person posting it.

jeffgoldblum · 21/04/2023 21:07

Some of the posters here are like the women who used to tell me ' of course your husband is having affairs, they all do , while I was home alone with a baby and he was in the middle of a war zone !

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JaneFondue · 21/04/2023 21:08

Hilary Mantel was a goddess. Incredible writer, incredible woman, incredible icon. FGS leave her out of this fawnfest, if you are unable to understand her essay or literary standing.

MouthfulofMidwinter · 21/04/2023 21:10

Iwasafool · 21/04/2023 20:55

But you didn't post the full essay. You posted a piece that I think sounded quite nasty, I don't think commenting on someone being painfully thin is any more acceptable than calling someone fat. As to the painting maybe the issue was the artist rather than the subject or then again it was just her interpretation.

The full essay is extremely well-known, freely available online for anyone interested, and not remotely 'nasty', just perceptive about the obsessive public interest in royal women's bodies in particular, and the terms in which they are constructed by the media. The bit I quoted was two non-consecutive sections which dealt most closely with PK's appearance, the subject of this thread, rather than other royal bodies (including Marie Antoinette, Anne Boleyn, Diana, Prince Charles (as was) , and the Queen) and concludes with a criticism which includes HM herself:

this is what discourse about royals comes to: a compulsion to comment, a discourse empty of content, mouthed rather than spoken. And in the same way one is compelled to look at them: to ask what they are made of, and is their substance the same as ours.

That's pretty much what is going on in this thread and others, an interest in PK's 'substance' -- and the extent to which it has been worked on, or artificially-constructed. Hardly surprisingly, because as far as the general public are concerned, she's a content-free zone. She exists to be looked at, and she fulfils that brief perfectly, with no evident quirks or oddities.

vera99 · 21/04/2023 21:12

JaneFondue · 21/04/2023 21:08

Hilary Mantel was a goddess. Incredible writer, incredible woman, incredible icon. FGS leave her out of this fawnfest, if you are unable to understand her essay or literary standing.

In the brief encounter from that essay I am minded to agree. Undoubted treasures await. And that is what is "Great" about Great Britain, not it's monarchs but it's people in whose reflection they seek to glory.

MouthfulofMidwinter · 21/04/2023 21:12

JaneFondue · 21/04/2023 21:08

Hilary Mantel was a goddess. Incredible writer, incredible woman, incredible icon. FGS leave her out of this fawnfest, if you are unable to understand her essay or literary standing.

She was a genius. She was pretty much the only living writer whose health I worried about, and though she died far too young, given her longterm significant health problems we should, I suppose, count ourselves lucky she was able to live as long and write as much as she did.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/04/2023 21:13

If he really thought that he wouldn't be doing what he allegedly does.

Nono22972 · 21/04/2023 21:16

Some of you want this girl to be an unhappy, abused woman so bad, it's sad

Iwasafool · 21/04/2023 21:16

MouthfulofMidwinter · 21/04/2023 21:10

The full essay is extremely well-known, freely available online for anyone interested, and not remotely 'nasty', just perceptive about the obsessive public interest in royal women's bodies in particular, and the terms in which they are constructed by the media. The bit I quoted was two non-consecutive sections which dealt most closely with PK's appearance, the subject of this thread, rather than other royal bodies (including Marie Antoinette, Anne Boleyn, Diana, Prince Charles (as was) , and the Queen) and concludes with a criticism which includes HM herself:

this is what discourse about royals comes to: a compulsion to comment, a discourse empty of content, mouthed rather than spoken. And in the same way one is compelled to look at them: to ask what they are made of, and is their substance the same as ours.

That's pretty much what is going on in this thread and others, an interest in PK's 'substance' -- and the extent to which it has been worked on, or artificially-constructed. Hardly surprisingly, because as far as the general public are concerned, she's a content-free zone. She exists to be looked at, and she fulfils that brief perfectly, with no evident quirks or oddities.

I'm sure plenty of people have never heard of it so being freely available is neither here nor there, I'm hardly going to go looking for something I don't know exists.

The point remains you didn't post the essay and the bit you posted didn't come across to me as a nice piece about a Princess. You are entitled to your opinion but it isn't the only opinion.