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The Press & The Royals: a discussion

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Whaeanui · 17/04/2023 12:25

As we were just having a great discussion on this topic I’m going to try again to continue it on a thread of its own. A previous thread highlighted two particularly prolific ‘royal reporters’, but the same is true for all. They often manufacture stories to create divisions between the women in the family, more often than the men. The public seem to feed off this and none of the family get treated very well except the monarch. So do we think it is possible for the royal family to stay relevant and in the publics mind without their unhealthy relationship with the media? Can social media replace this? What do you think they can do to make positive changes that would reflect an understanding of the mental health challenges the media intrusion results in? Also their role in charities that deal with mental health and misogyny, mistreatment of women etc could be impacted by this too. Thoughts?
Please do not derail this thread by discussing your personal dislike of particular members or if they deserve it. I would like a discussion on how the royal family could change the relationship with the press.

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Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:21

You’re now saying he should not have been compensated? Or he should not have kept the money, because he already has some?
Or he should have, after doing a settlement, made it all public? How does that make sense?

Why oh why do you make stuff up. Where did I say he should not have been compensated? Just where?
I have said on threads probably about three times that I quite understand, given his position, why he didn't go to court. I have no problem with the compensation. However, all this was behind closed doors, we found out yesterday. Standing up to say he has received a substantial amount and donated it to...... would have been a good thing to do. Throwing light on their underhand practices.

PicturesOfDogs · 26/04/2023 09:22

Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:19

Or does it just go against your narrative that the media are in his pocket?

I don't have a narrative. Sorry.

So then, what’s the problem?

Why do you think he’s beholden to do anything/say anything with/about the compensation he received for having his privacy violated?

Seems like one rule for some, and another for others.

His life was hacked, he took them to court, and how he dealt with it is his business.

Novella4 · 26/04/2023 09:24

Sure - to pay their uni fees no doubt

Royals have taken press to court before - if they win the money goes to charity - it's not like they need more money

So which charity did Wiliam donate to ?

And why was the deal kept secret ?
Where is the leadership ?

Whaeanui · 26/04/2023 09:24

The purpose of suing someone is to obtain damages to compensate for harm suffered. It’s not a moral crusade! As a by product, hefty settlements and the likelihood of further suits may reduce the press behaviour but that’s not the point of litigation. William took them on and hit them where it hurts. I hope he kept the money and put it away for Charlotte and Louis.

William didn’t force them to change their behaviour though. Public exposure may do that. It can also often mean the public respond by not buying whatever it is the company is selling too.
Im sure Charlotte and Louis would be extraordinarily wealthy without this settlement money, it’s certainly not his motivator for reaching a financial settlement.

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Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:25

I hope he kept the money and put it away for Charlotte and Louis.

Do you honestly mean that? Seriously? I'm gobsmacked. He is a multi millionaire and will be a billionaire probably, when he takes the throne. Yet he should squirrel it away for his children, when he could be donating it to a worthwhile charity that matters. Drawing attention to a charity, making a difference. Is it all about maximising his wealth?

Are we this far down a rabbit hole with the Royals, god help us.

Whaeanui · 26/04/2023 09:26

The BBC was publicly exposed over the Bashir interview, when it concerned Diana. So it’s not like the royal family never want public exposure over private matters is it.

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PicturesOfDogs · 26/04/2023 09:26

Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:21

You’re now saying he should not have been compensated? Or he should not have kept the money, because he already has some?
Or he should have, after doing a settlement, made it all public? How does that make sense?

Why oh why do you make stuff up. Where did I say he should not have been compensated? Just where?
I have said on threads probably about three times that I quite understand, given his position, why he didn't go to court. I have no problem with the compensation. However, all this was behind closed doors, we found out yesterday. Standing up to say he has received a substantial amount and donated it to...... would have been a good thing to do. Throwing light on their underhand practices.

I’m not making stuff up, I’m asking you questions. Hence the question marks and the ‘ors’.

And my last quoted question was clearly bang on the money.

You do think that, after getting a private settlement, he should have publicised it. Why?

Surely, if he was going after publicity, he would have taken it to trial.

It’s his right, following his private life being hacked, to want less of it in public, not more.

Novella4 · 26/04/2023 09:26

Hacked off have done all the work to reform the media

Wiliam did a deal and kept silent

Could it be that they still have something on William ?

Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:26

PicturesOfDogs · 26/04/2023 09:22

So then, what’s the problem?

Why do you think he’s beholden to do anything/say anything with/about the compensation he received for having his privacy violated?

Seems like one rule for some, and another for others.

His life was hacked, he took them to court, and how he dealt with it is his business.

What one rule?

Harry won against MoS in 2020 and donated his substantial payout to Invictus. There's a rule for you then.. a good one

8roses · 26/04/2023 09:27

Why would anyone want to go to trial if they don’t need to - to have all your personal information set out for the world to see - not everyone wants that. We know Harry does - William doesn’t. Why should he give his damages away!? He suffered harm and has been compensated for that - most people who sue in big money cases already have money - should they all give their money away to charities - good luck with that

PicturesOfDogs · 26/04/2023 09:28

Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:25

I hope he kept the money and put it away for Charlotte and Louis.

Do you honestly mean that? Seriously? I'm gobsmacked. He is a multi millionaire and will be a billionaire probably, when he takes the throne. Yet he should squirrel it away for his children, when he could be donating it to a worthwhile charity that matters. Drawing attention to a charity, making a difference. Is it all about maximising his wealth?

Are we this far down a rabbit hole with the Royals, god help us.

Tbf, I don’t see it as any different to Harry keeping his inheritance from Diana for Archie and Lilli, while going cap in hand to Tyler Perry.

Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:28

You do think that, after getting a private settlement, he should have publicised it. Why?

How many times do I have to repeat myself.

Sigh

Drawing attention to underhand practices in the media, whilst donating his payout to a worthy cause to amplify that.

Please don't ask me again.

8roses · 26/04/2023 09:29

Not everyone who gives to charity feels the need to announce it

Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:30

8roses · 26/04/2023 09:27

Why would anyone want to go to trial if they don’t need to - to have all your personal information set out for the world to see - not everyone wants that. We know Harry does - William doesn’t. Why should he give his damages away!? He suffered harm and has been compensated for that - most people who sue in big money cases already have money - should they all give their money away to charities - good luck with that

Errmmmm.... because of his position and because of his extreme wealth, and because ummm it's a good thing?

Before I'm asked again, about ten times now I've said I understand why W didn't go to court.

PicturesOfDogs · 26/04/2023 09:30

Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:26

What one rule?

Harry won against MoS in 2020 and donated his substantial payout to Invictus. There's a rule for you then.. a good one

What, you can afford to give charitably while you’re under the bank of Daddy?

But after that you’ll take money from strangers before putting your hands in your own pocket?

Novella4 · 26/04/2023 09:30

@8roses

'Royals' donate any compensation from court wins
Did William ?
He didn't have to reveal all the secrets but Willaim could have spoken out .
He didn't
No leadership

If they have something on him - it will all come out

8roses · 26/04/2023 09:30

We already know about underhand practices - it’s not a topic that needs highlighting - it’s been done to death. Any other reason ?

8roses · 26/04/2023 09:31

You have no idea what William did with his private money - nor do you need to know

PicturesOfDogs · 26/04/2023 09:31

Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:30

Errmmmm.... because of his position and because of his extreme wealth, and because ummm it's a good thing?

Before I'm asked again, about ten times now I've said I understand why W didn't go to court.

Tbf, no one knows what he did with the money.

That was kind of the point, he didn’t want it to be publicised. That’s his right.

Whaeanui · 26/04/2023 09:31

most people who sue in big money cases already have money - should they all give their money away to charities - good luck with that

Hugh Grant have his settlement to Hacked Off to help all the people without the funds to get lawyers. I thought that was very generous and using privilege for a good purpose. Obviously William doesn’t have to do that, but it’s good when someone does and it helps the less fortunate.

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Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:31

PicturesOfDogs · 26/04/2023 09:30

What, you can afford to give charitably while you’re under the bank of Daddy?

But after that you’ll take money from strangers before putting your hands in your own pocket?

Like William? Because as I understand it, Harry had left by the time of the payout so that makes your post look a tad silly

Novella4 · 26/04/2023 09:32

'Royals'donate money from court wins

Willaim didn't

And this isn't 'private ' it is a matter of national interest

Yet Willaim kept silent

Roussette · 26/04/2023 09:33

8roses · 26/04/2023 09:30

We already know about underhand practices - it’s not a topic that needs highlighting - it’s been done to death. Any other reason ?

I give up. Let's just ignore it all and hope it goes away shall we...

Do you ponder why Baronness Lawrence chose to go to court? She was manipulated over a tragic death of a son. Let's just pretend it isn't happening and won't continue unless people stand up to it.

Whaeanui · 26/04/2023 09:33

But after that you’ll take money from strangers before putting your hands in your own pocket

What is this in reference to???

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8roses · 26/04/2023 09:33

Oh it will ‘all
come out’ - from his loving brother probably - let’s all look forward to bashing William some more - the only thing he has said (despite immense provocation) is ‘we are not a racist family’. - what a horror he is

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