Just catching up again and this is such an interesting topic for a thread. Thank you for it op!
I particularly like the Malcolm X quote from an pp about press manipulation. Talk about ahead of his time and so insightful!
And I am very interested indeed in the linked Noam Chomsky book. Thank you to the pp who recommended it.
And the insights about the patholization (spelling?) of Harry’s mh are so obvious now you look at it. Using mh issues to undermine someone’s credibility is incredibly wicked imho. One would have thought that our understanding of mh conditions had evolved somewhat from that position, especially from those who are meant to be supporting the work of mh charities.
I don’t want to derail the main topic and I apologise if I did so before. Sometimes there are so many of these threads running simultaneously I forget which one I am following!
However in response to the poster below who said:
Not to mention the bullying that William reportedly experienced when his beloved mother did the interview. I can't believe so many people just dismiss what William says because to them Diana is a saint and can do no wrong. It's as though they think they know better than her own son. But if we were to judge her based on her actions as a mother, what Diana did was a pretty crap thing to do to her kids.
I’d just like to reply that making your wife and your dc live a lie in public and pretend to all the crowds and photographers and the world in general that you are a happy family and that there are no problems between your parents when you know that at home your mother is devastated and ten minutes after she drives out of the gate at Highgrove, your father is seen welcoming and entertaining his mistress, that is a profoundly crap thing to do to your kids and psychologically damaging to boot.
Have you thought of the psychological pressure those children would have been under if Diana had towed the line and hadn’t spoken up?
Even worse when you gradually realise as you grow up that your father’s close cohort of establishment friends are coming out in public with statements against your mother, that she is “a loose cannon” and even a close friend of your beloved grandmother referred to your mother as “damaged goods”. Imagine how those headlines went down at Eaton College!
And what good (and in this instance powerful and influential) father allegedly allows or even vaguely encourages their friends to speak ill of their children’s mother, no matter what their thoughts are in private.
Imagine growing up realising that your mother’s relationship to the establishment was basically “collateral damage”.
I think Harry has remained remarkably amiable given what he went through as a child. I guess the tension dividing him from his brother and vice versa is aligned somehow to the realisation that William will forever be separated from him as part of the establishment, whereas he as an outsider can look at the establishment’s actions with more objectivity, especially given how it treated his mother and then his wife. William as heir cannot allow himself that dubious luxury.
I am a little sceptical of pps comments about C&C and W&K becoming the new fab four. I tend to agree with the poster on here who predicts that we will see increasingly negative briefings against Kate. A depressing thought.