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The royal family

Did Meghan change her surname?

34 replies

Kudja · 08/03/2023 21:32

I don’t follow much about the RF but have just got lost on a thread here, much of which was centred around the children names. Leaving that aside, it got me thinking - is Meghan now Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor, or Meghan Sussex (always thought this was a sort of surname nickname/denomination thing) or did she keep Markle? I suppose given her reported feminist ideals I would have expected her to keep Markle, but would she have even had a choice of marrying into the RF?

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Kudja · 08/03/2023 21:33

Choice IF marrying into the RF…

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MarshaMelrose · 08/03/2023 21:58

On Archie's birthday certificate I think she's just down as Meghan Duchess of Sussex. So doesn't list a surname. I don't think she uses a surname anymore.
Surnames are so passé, don't you know? 😂😂

adrianmolesmole · 08/03/2023 22:04

Is Kate just Princess of wales now, as surnames are so passé?

MarshaMelrose · 08/03/2023 22:15

Thinking about it, I don't think Kate's ever had a surname. She was Catherine, Duchess of Sussex. And she's now Catherine, Princess of Wales.

Justmuddlingalong · 08/03/2023 22:17

Winge-alot.

MarshaMelrose · 08/03/2023 22:19

😂😂 Meghan Winge-alot, the Duchess of Sussex.
It has a ring to it but I'm not sure she'll go for it!

Kudja · 08/03/2023 23:16

I did think about Kate after I posted. I have it in my head that the Regent doesn’t actually have a surname but thought everyone else did. I’m going to google.

and can continue as I didn’t press the go button.

if HRH then no surname required. Which confuses it further as they (H&M) have one they no longer use?

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BackToWhereItAllBegan · 09/03/2023 01:02

I'm sure I remember years ago, Kate was spotted shopping and paid using a card with the name Catherine Cambridge. So following that logic, Meghan would be Meghan Sussex?

OutOfChocolate · 09/03/2023 01:30

Royal family members no longer have surnames. This will be the case in official documents like marriage certificates.

Stepuptowardsinfinity · 09/03/2023 06:24

Kudja · 08/03/2023 23:16

I did think about Kate after I posted. I have it in my head that the Regent doesn’t actually have a surname but thought everyone else did. I’m going to google.

and can continue as I didn’t press the go button.

if HRH then no surname required. Which confuses it further as they (H&M) have one they no longer use?

What do you mean by the Regent? We dont have a Regent.

Kudja · 09/03/2023 06:54

Stepuptowardsinfinity · 09/03/2023 06:24

What do you mean by the Regent? We dont have a Regent.

The Monarch. As I said, not a big follower of the Monarchy. Guess I am now off to google what a Regent is - thanks for your help.

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Lcb123 · 09/03/2023 07:05

She’s always ‘Markle’ in the media. Keeping your surname is hardly a ‘feminist ideal’ 😂

mixedrecycling · 09/03/2023 07:10

It's Mountbatten-Windsor isn't it? Which is a bit of a mouthful, so for convenience use their title as a surname on occasion. So Harry was Lt Wales when he joined the army (formal title Prince Henry of Wales)

LavenderHillMob · 09/03/2023 07:12

Meghan can use Sussex or stick with Markle.

Harry was Wales, then became Sussex.

Kate was Middleton, was Cambridge, now Wales.

I don’t expect they have to list them on a DBS application.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 09/03/2023 07:17

I think they use their duchess/duke area names as a sort of courtesy surname. So Cambridge then Wales for Kate (presumably the children have Cambridge surnames then will switch to Wales at school and she will be Mrs..... to the teachers).

I'm certain when Harry's children were born they were announced as Name Mountbatten-Windsor. But as for Harry and Meghan I'd assume by the same trope as above they'd use Sussex for a surname if they needed one.

MarshaMelrose · 09/03/2023 07:51

Kudja · 09/03/2023 06:54

The Monarch. As I said, not a big follower of the Monarchy. Guess I am now off to google what a Regent is - thanks for your help.

The regency period was when George III was indisposed so his son, the Prince of Wales, the future George IV ruled on his behalf.

A regent rules when the monarch can't. Usually because they're too young but also when they're ill.

notanotheroneagain · 09/03/2023 08:47

MarshaMelrose · 08/03/2023 22:19

😂😂 Meghan Winge-alot, the Duchess of Sussex.
It has a ring to it but I'm not sure she'll go for it!

😂😂Katie Wait-alot, The Princess of Wails.
It has a ring to it but I'm not sure she'll go for it !

You lot with your name calling is unbelievable.

MarshaMelrose · 09/03/2023 09:06

notanotheroneagain · 09/03/2023 08:47

😂😂Katie Wait-alot, The Princess of Wails.
It has a ring to it but I'm not sure she'll go for it !

You lot with your name calling is unbelievable.

Would it not have been Katie Waitie-alot? I think that sounds better.
By the way, your spelling is quite poor.

EdithWeston · 09/03/2023 09:16

Senior members of the Royal family (whether working royals or not) generally don't need a surname.

When they do, they can either use a surname that follows from the title of their branch of the family (eg William and Harry Wales at Eton and in the Army, or George, Charlotte and Louis Cambridge (as were))

Or, is direct descendants of ER II and Prince Phillip, they can use Mountbatten-Windsor - as Harry chose to initially for Archie and Lili, and Edward did for Lady Louise.

We await final confirmation of new styles for A&L, but it's likely there will be no HRH (like H&M there is an entitlement under the LP, but as the parents don't use, I can't see the DC doing so) and they'll follow the York pattern and be Prince Archie of Sussex and Princess Lili of Sussex, aka Archie and Lili Sussex for contexts where the Royal bit isn't used. But nothing to stop them continuing to be Mountbatten-Windsors if they prefer that

WeWereInParis · 09/03/2023 09:26

I believe she's Markle on Lili's birth certificate.

SenecaFallsRedux · 09/03/2023 09:54

WeWereInParis · 09/03/2023 09:26

I believe she's Markle on Lili's birth certificate.

California requires the mother's maiden (birth) name. I think most states probably do. I was born a long time ago in a different state and my mother's maiden name in on my birth certificate.

IcedPurple · 09/03/2023 13:18

MarshaMelrose · 08/03/2023 22:15

Thinking about it, I don't think Kate's ever had a surname. She was Catherine, Duchess of Sussex. And she's now Catherine, Princess of Wales.

I know it was in France, where British titles aren't recognised, but when Kate and William sued 'Closer' for invasion of privacy, the court documents referred to 'Monsieur et Madame Mountbatten-Windsor'.

OutOfChocolate · 09/03/2023 13:21

Those are the names they use when they need a surname. But in Britain they do not use them.

MarshaMelrose · 09/03/2023 13:25

Interesting, @IcedPurple. It shows what they must consider the family name to be.

Maireas · 09/03/2023 14:30

MarshaMelrose · 08/03/2023 22:15

Thinking about it, I don't think Kate's ever had a surname. She was Catherine, Duchess of Sussex. And she's now Catherine, Princess of Wales.

She was neither.
The first name then title indicates a divorcee eg, Serena, Countess of Snowdon, Sarah, Duchess of York.
Kate was the Duchess of Cambridge, now the Princess of Wales.