Question about royal family, (not about Harry/spare)

[Deadringer]

Hypothetical question, if William and Harry both died and Charles had another (legitimate) son, who would be the heir, new son or George. Just musing.

George

Hopefully the whole thing would be scrapped

Camilla is 75 so I think they would be declaring a modern miracle before deciding the line of succession

But George in the same way that George would be the next in line if William died now. Another son would be the same as Harry, e.g further down the succession

After William it’s his 3 children in age order, then Harry

For it to be new son all of Williams kids & all of Harry’s would have to die as well.

George. As soon as William was born he and his line became the one the crown would go down.

For another child of Charles’ to be heir William, Harry and all of their legitimate heirs would have to be gone.

Interesting. I would have assumed that son trumps grandson, but obviously not how it works.

He would somehow have to be both legitimate AND older than William. Which does not seem possible.

If son trumped grandson then Harry would not have slipped down the line of succession when George was born

As a side note since 2013 granddaughter can now trump son/daughter as well, as its no longer sons first instead it's firstborn regardless of sex

Not if the grandson is born to an elder son.

As soon as William was born he was next after Charles, then as soon as George was born he was after William. The death of your parent moves you up a spot, not down.

That’s how Harry, Andrew, Edward and Anne have all dropped down the line over the years.

Of that were the case that would have made Harry ahead of Williams kids and obviously he isn't
on that note of Charles and William both died before George was an adult and we had a regent,would they be crowned?

By your logic @Deadringer Andrew and Edward would be before William (sadly not Anne who is probably the best of them all)

Regents aren’t crowned as they are not King or Queen.

Ah ok so once the line is established, ie William and his offspring, it passes down that line. I am not British so didn't quite get it. I was watching marie antoinette and was wondering if the king managed to produce an heir then his grandson might get bumped down.

Yeah that’s exactly it.

it only goes back up if there’s nowhere for it to go (if someone died childless for example).

Look up Queen Victoria- her dad died but she still got in ahead of her uncle, after the kings daughter died. And some older uncles also died. I think.

What if Charles had another son out of wedlock who was older than William who came out if the woodwork to claim the throne tomorrow? Would he be eligible or not if he was another woman's son? Does that make sense, I'm tired!

He wouldn't be eligible as only legitimate heirs count.

Also George III succeeded his grandfather George II even though George II had another son. The father of George III was Frederick Prince of Wales who died before his father George II.

No, he would be considered illegitimate. Even if, for example, Camilla had had a boy before Charles married Diana, and Camilla and Charles are now married which would make the son legitimate,he would still e ineligible to inherit the throne.

Only legitimate children from marriages approved by the monarch count.

Out of wedlock children don’t make the live of succession.

William IV had at 10 when he was Duke of Clarence. All given the name FitzClarence, but since neither of his legitimate children outlived him his niece became Queen Victoria

History is littered with illegitimate offspring born to kings who weren't in with a shout. That's why Victoria inherited from her uncle William IV. He had an entire family of them (10?) with his mistress, but no surviving children with his wife.

Maybe that Australian man who thinks he's the love child of Charles and camilla coukd take over 😅

*line of succession

If you think about it logically, this is the only way otherwise how would the crown pass to the next generation? The dilemma would be to go back to the eldest child’s children or continue through the line of the younger sibling’s children etc.