If Harry and meghan stayed...alternative ending

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How do you envisage them to be like if they stayed in the UK?

I remember Meghan's puff piece editing Vogue. It was cringe Edward Enninful fawning all over someone who a few months before was an aspiring actress who noone had really heard of..

Also the bump rubbing at the fashion awards - weird

I think if they’d stayed then they’d have become quite popular and carved out a role for themselves

but it was never ever the plan. They were speaking to Oprah before rhe wedding about an interview and the palace said no. They had trademarked archewell before the wedding too.

They always wanted to be superstars and earn money, play with the a listers. It was never about visiting hospitals and the like. There was never any intention of being soley working royals.

Hopefully Meghan would have settled in and been happy. However, it’s quite clear that Harry has been unhappy for a long time and would probably have continued feeling the same except, if anything, it would be worse.

Well considering the rumours going around about Harry's extra curricular behaviour that has been supposedly covered up for years I would say Harry wouldn't have lasted long even if he had stayed here. The victim is supposedly considering coming out.

Yes m'lady

@HeBrokeMyNecklace yes it is a more believable rumour now - sadly fits with his misogyny that he has revealed

Why is the bump touching a problem? Maybe she was really happy to show off the bump? Plenty of women wear clothing that accentuates the bump, isn't that the same thing?

Are you saying he's gay?

Meghan might well not be here at all if they’d stayed. So things wouldn’t be at all the way any of you are imagining.

But do carry on yet another hateful thread about a woman who, let’s remember, has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to any of you. Not hard to spot who the catty, spiteful bullies in the schoolyard were, is it? Most people grow up eventually, though. And the rest of them hang around on the Meghan hate threads here.

Honestly, in your shoes I’d be looking at why I had such strong feelings about a person who has no effect on your life, and maybe think about doing something more positive and constructive with all that pent up energy and anger.

I think they would've made a wonderful contribution.
I agree they would've had their tabloid ups and downs but hopefully they're popularity and the public's support for then would've helped them remain resilient.

Meghan would've gained respect and over time little niggles like not being first in line for designer outfits would've rectified itself. She would've remembered to bring her own lipgloss to events.

Harry & Meghan would very much have gone their own way and been given the freedom to take on some interesting and quickly projects - possible some outreach work in Africa or America if that's where their passions lay.

King Charles would frequently be seen with his two sons & in the future Harry would've been King Williams right hand man. The cousins would've grown up close and remained good friends as adults.

Yes, plus they'd never want to play second fiddle so suspect they'd have caused a commotion, got all antsy and stomped off, flouncing all the way to the USA ... oh wait ... 🤔

I don't think my post was hateful.

I don't think the thread overall is hateful.

@DuchessofSandwich not sure it is the same. Royal women don't cradle bumps ostentatiously on stages at awards wearing tight dresses. They just don't.

I don't make dem rules.

But Meghan HAD to be different. And Haz HAD to glower in the corner - brittle to any criticism of his beautiful bride.

@TeeHeeQuodSheAndClaptTheWindowTo disagree. I think she has had a huge effect on the Royal Family, and in turn the constitution and in turn my beloved Country.

Wallis was vilified for the same reason. Meghan is the worst thing to happen (in my view) to the Royal Family since the abdication crisis .

I’m an historian. Your beloved Country (sounds a bit gammony) can withstand an injection of new blood and ideas. The current Royal Family is only that because we had to cast about Europe at the end of the 17th century to find some new ones because the existing line was dead with Queen Anne. The Sam thing has happened throughout English history, and that of Scotland too.

The institution is bigger than one person and one family line. Clearly you are embodying this one person with much greater power that she possesses. Is this why she lives so large and rent free in your head? If so, really, it’s nothing to worry about. You can relax.

Well they said VICTIM so they're all edging he's harmed someone

Blame rests with Harry.

If he'd been upfront about what being married to the "a major catastrophy" in line to the throne meant, and assume your bileous thoughts on her are right, she wouldn't have lasted past one night of sex under the stars in Africa. He's clearly underplayed the family dynamics, and pushed in line for weddings so it was too late for her to learn and walk like the others did.

That's what they used to say about Sophie Wessex and the dreadful damage of press sting exposing (at best) indiscretion over continuing a half and half outside work/royal duties.

Not so serious at the time but "vulgar, vulgar, vulgar" Fergie was pilloried as dreadful for the monarchy (and that was before any toe-sucking)

I don't think either of those, or the Sussex move abroad is remotely in the same league as the abdication. As that changed the monarchy (by switching the succession) and shaped it (by leading to the reign of ER II)

The other events will all pass and be largely forgotten in 20 years (the depth of scandal about the Wessexes working life is barely remembered now)

I think Meghan is not the villan she is painted .However she doesnt really fit in to her role as a Royal wife.Harry is upset she has been treated unfairly in his opinion.If they had stayed I think they would not take well to the constrarints of Royal life .Harry always seemed happy when with W&K before his marriage. Maybe he wasnt and hid it well ,but another girl maybe more suitable would perhaps have helped him.Whatever the circumstances ,its very sad when Brothers fall out .Ray Davies of the Kinks and his brother Dave have had a tempestous relationship and Oasis of course .Lots of families have problems like this but dont write books about them!

@TeeHeeQuodSheAndClaptTheWindowTo yes, I think you are right . When the Hanoverians came though , Monarchy was a more of a given. Now it seems so fragile..

I think in this media age (and lack of treasonary charges) I think Harry And Meghan can cause a lot of damage to someone like KC, whose support compared to his mum is pretty feeble.

lots of my family fought for King / Queen and country. Some died for it. I am patriotic. I know it isn't fashionable. I therefore despise Meghan and Harry for what I believe they have done to an ailing QE2 and PP, and for the Monarchy's reputation. Harry a great deal of disappointment for what he has turned his back on his military associations.

I despise Andrew too, but at the very least he has kept a sock in it!

@SleepingStandingUp Yes, I don't disagree. He is to blame mostly.

And, it is bilious.

A Pendant.

@DerangedViper yes, true.

@dottiedodah it is very sad when brothers are estranged.
This tale is as old as the hills.

I wonder if we may seem they reunited in their twilight years . When Harry's anger goes and William is one of his only links remaining to his mother and his past. Bonds like that are so very hard to severe completely.

What are these rumours?

Sorry that was @HeBrokeMyNecklace

They would possibly have been less wealthy 😄
However, if it had not been about the money (which, unfortunately it really was), then Meghan would have taken on more arts charity work and Harry continued 'working' with with Invictus and the vets.
The Fab Four was more of benefit to H&M than K&W even if they thought the opposite. It would have cemented those alliances between senior royals of similar age. If they had got along, I bet Louis and Archie would have been as thick as thieves and they would have become more and more populat among the doubters.