Strangest bits in Spare…

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i haven’t quite finished it yet but I wanted to read a thread about some of the weirder bits of Spare, and I haven’t seen a thread where people were discussing those without the ‘H&M’ vs the rest of the RF debate. There are definitely some parts which have made me really question why they were included, and I was wondering if anyone else had any similar thoughts.

The inclusion of the imagery of the poppy fields, and how heroin funds the Taliban. Fair enough. We all know that. The rest of the book is one long ode to posh people taking drugs. Does Prince Harry think the cocaine he takes is gently knitted by fairies and delivered to him by unicorns? Do the drugs he takes not contribute to war and terrorism and misery across the rest of the world (and indeed misery and crime in the UK, where he is 5th in line to be monarch!) I found this quite a strange passage and I was wondering if anyone else had any thoughts, or am I just over thinking it?

Elizabeth Arden cream. ‘Mummy’s lips’. ‘Todger’. Why? But really, why? Why was this included? Why did anyone think it or commit it to paper, and then publish it? Why did I read it? Why am I typing it here? ARGH.

What he actually thinks the relationship between the royal family and the press should actually be. Only reporting true things? Someone had a photo of him taking cocaine. Dressed as a nazi. Calling his colleague a ‘P*ki’. He wasn’t happy, but it was all true. Should journalists not be allowed to report true things? Or should they only be reporting things he wants them to report? Does Andrew get to choose that too? What about everyone else?

What the actual royal family should look like. This was mind bending. He seems to be perfectly happy with the idea of the monarchy, an institution which is predicated on the idea that they’re inherently superior to the rest of us, and that’s their birth right, but seems to massively struggle to apply that to himself and William. If a monarchy is the best system, why shouldn’t the heir be treated differently to the spare? (I don’t believe it is the best system and wish we could abolish them all but I don’t understand how one can believe one but not the other!).

Anyone else have any interesting thoughts?

I don’t really understand why she thought it seemed ‘cooler’ to keep stressing she didn’t google about him or the family, how she had no idea how to curtsey, how challenging it was to learn the National Anthem without having her hand held through it and all the other things that seemed to baffle and floor her. It seems completely idiotic to want to come across as so dense and ignorant. Maybe she thought people would sympathise but honestly it just made her look inept and lazy. If I was contemplating marrying into such a dynasty I’d be researching the hell out of it letting everyone know I did.

....how challenging it was to learn the National Anthem without having her hand held through it

She's an actress, FGS. Has she never had to learn lines before? The words of GSTQ aren't all that difficult.

And if she once had ambitions to work in the US Diplomatic Service, she must have had some clue that it's a good idea to learn and respect the customs and cultures of other countries if you're going to live and work there.

She doesn’t want to admit that she was interested in his status not him .

When you read about celebrity romances, the number who say, “She didn’t know who I was!” Yeah, right. That’s understandable with a D list celebrity, but not with someone famous. I mean, it’s always been a thing: asked out by very sought-after fellow, of course one feigns ignorance with a breezy, “Sorry, what’s your name? Hmmm, yeah, I might have seen you around somewhere…” when everyone within a 10-mile radius has been swooning over him for yonks.

Harry falling for the not knowing anything about him crap shows what a chump he is.

‘She doesn’t want to admit that she was interested in his status not him .’

⬆️ this!

she has spun him some Disney yarn about a girl-next-door type living her best independent self-made glamorous life, who was so happy and fulfilled being single, but ended up so head over heels and unexpectedly in love with a prince etc. So decided to sacrifice her amazing life just for him. To make him feel indebted, special, and like she’s the one that’s put herself out. And also throw him off the scent that there was a strategy in play to ensnare him. She kinda says this herself in the doc too, something about how happy and oblivious she was, then along came ‘haz’. Also strange it’s always portrayed in those terms, about how detrimental it’s been to her. How much she gave up, how it’s impacted it, how hard it’s been. Are we meant to ignore the glaring truth, that she’s doing very well out of the match and there have been many benefits.

Yes thank you! Finally feeling properly on the mend today! X

Her arrival in the UK in the summer of 2016 was entirely to promote herself and her career. Nothing wrong with that, but it shows she's really had to hustle and promote herself. It's interesting that she wanted to be on Made in Chelsea as I think that kind of reality show may still be an option. Other things didn't work out of course, notably a positive relationship with Piers Morgan!

it’s also quite telling in spare how much he’s believed her hype, he talks about her like she was Angelina jolie level successful. But another contradiction is if he really believed that, why was he asking his dad to fund her? And if her career and philanthropy were so amazing why would he have expected her to have given it all up for hand outs from the family purse? Which then suggests actually he did have a better grasp of her situation.

I hadn’t paid much attention to them, so took it at face value and also bought in she was v prestigious and well known beforehand. It’s only recently with all this glut of new info about them everywhere, ive been quite surprised to see that’s not really the case.

I’d have thought Harry would have been more clued up on opportunistic women tbh and on the lookout for red flags

She doesn’t want to admit that she was interested in his status not him .

Absolutely, thats probably also why she commented on Notts Cottage. She was expecting a beautiful house, done up to the 9s, interior decor out of this world and instead got Harry's bean bag (which I bet he loved).
Royal life, most Engagements requiring, business type clothing isn't what she signed up for either, she was expecting a lot more glam dinners, posh frocks and red carpet treatment than she got.

I’d have thought Harry would have been more clued up on opportunistic women tbh and on the lookout for red flags

I think he was desperate. He’d had two girlfriends bail on him.

I’d have thought Harry would have been more clued up on opportunistic women tbh and on the lookout for red flags

Like many maybe he ignored the red flags, here's a woman, not scared off by the spotlight, doesn't mind my dope habit, wants kids she'll do the job.

Posted at same time - same conclusion!

Yeah his drug / alcohol habit prob did put off quite a few. Especially at his age, plus he seems v immature, his humour is quite laddish and missed the mark a lot too (gives the impression people have laughed along and humoured him, prob why he thinks his anecdotes are real zingers)

Another stand out detail for me in general, his he has told us that several people have pointed him in the direction of therapy. Directly because of his behaviour. Such as a previous gf, his brother, his dad and even Meghan. This suggests to me his behaviour has been problematic for a while, and has been impacting others, to the point that others have had to voice concerns and push him towards interventional help with it.

(My grammar is so terrible atm, apologies!)

@MonsoonMadness I think H ‘knows’ & is trying to convince himself she didn’t google as per Andrew being the Queen’s assistant.

I thought it interesting they/M said engagement interview was contrived/fake when it felt like all the others to me? What party line were they forced to parrot, what went so against grain?

How can he, H, think meeting a coincidence & whirlwind relationship all coup de foudre when she’d openly been gunning for a relationship with a footballer? Apparently…

She ended up looking pathetic instead and frankly dishonest. I’d have said ‘Yes of course I researched him and his family, it would be very remiss of me not to as there is a lot of responsibility involved in joining such a family’.

Heck, people have to research companies they’re applying to jobs for, the monarchy is a job! Not cool to not do your research or to lie about it.

There’s an anecdote in Courtiers about his security team having to manhandle him into the car off his face after a night out. One of them commented that he was “a right handful tonight”. The implication was that he was often a handful.

Wasn’t there a whole folder of information put together, and the offer of Sophie as a mentor, and both were declined as Harry would just guide her through by himself? Seems either naive or arrogant if true…

Yes, she was given a folder of information, and additional support was offered from Sophie, although how much was read, acknowledged and accepted is another matter.

Harry did admit to slapping his bodyguards on another occasion and confirmed the handful story from Courtiers.

It’s striking how he’s inadvertently drawn attention to how he treats people who he considers beneath him. From the physically struck bodyguard to the staff crying with their heads in their hands.

Indeed. And yet wanted to smear William as a violent and aggressive man.

When you add up all the details, it seems like Harry does an awful lot of projecting.

She wanted to get with Ashley Cole apparently & was persistent- why him? & apparently Colin Montgomerie - what do those two have in common?

Colin Montgomerie is nearly 60! Do you mean Rory McIlroy? There's a lot of photographic evidence to suggest they had a romance.

Have gone down the youtube rabbit hole on 1. H&M having split up by December 2016, Meghan crashing H's best friend's wedding in the Caribbean, lots of unhappy body language between them at that event, best friend not being subsequently invited to H&M's wedding; and 2. Meghan was a yacht girl and knowing Andrew from, ahem, the unthinkable. I honestly don't know what to make of her (or these stories).

It was Rory McIlroy.

The Ashley Cole chasing, despite his reputation, makes me wonder why? A genuine crush? Thought she could change/save him? Was he more on brand? If so, in what way?

The break up and wedding crashing, is that true? Any articles on it?