Strangest bits in Spare…

[Motorcycleemptyness]

i haven’t quite finished it yet but I wanted to read a thread about some of the weirder bits of Spare, and I haven’t seen a thread where people were discussing those without the ‘H&M’ vs the rest of the RF debate. There are definitely some parts which have made me really question why they were included, and I was wondering if anyone else had any similar thoughts.

The inclusion of the imagery of the poppy fields, and how heroin funds the Taliban. Fair enough. We all know that. The rest of the book is one long ode to posh people taking drugs. Does Prince Harry think the cocaine he takes is gently knitted by fairies and delivered to him by unicorns? Do the drugs he takes not contribute to war and terrorism and misery across the rest of the world (and indeed misery and crime in the UK, where he is 5th in line to be monarch!) I found this quite a strange passage and I was wondering if anyone else had any thoughts, or am I just over thinking it?

Elizabeth Arden cream. ‘Mummy’s lips’. ‘Todger’. Why? But really, why? Why was this included? Why did anyone think it or commit it to paper, and then publish it? Why did I read it? Why am I typing it here? ARGH.

What he actually thinks the relationship between the royal family and the press should actually be. Only reporting true things? Someone had a photo of him taking cocaine. Dressed as a nazi. Calling his colleague a ‘P*ki’. He wasn’t happy, but it was all true. Should journalists not be allowed to report true things? Or should they only be reporting things he wants them to report? Does Andrew get to choose that too? What about everyone else?

What the actual royal family should look like. This was mind bending. He seems to be perfectly happy with the idea of the monarchy, an institution which is predicated on the idea that they’re inherently superior to the rest of us, and that’s their birth right, but seems to massively struggle to apply that to himself and William. If a monarchy is the best system, why shouldn’t the heir be treated differently to the spare? (I don’t believe it is the best system and wish we could abolish them all but I don’t understand how one can believe one but not the other!).

Anyone else have any interesting thoughts?

Such a shame that anger and a desire for revenge took over.

Exactly. Being the Spare has many more advantages. He’s been a fool.

It must infuriate William too. The memory of his mother is being used as emotional currency for manipulation.

It really has been exploited by Harry in the very worst way.
There really has been no need to go into such intimate and private detail, and show such a lack of concern and respect for his brother.

Vile. He’s utterly vile. To actually write this without a shred of embarrassment or shame beggars belief. When he says guess who was the most enthusiastic at tormenting her, I’m guessing that’s him? P.o.s.

Laughing at himself doesn't seem like one of his skills...

Neither is empathy or even basic human decency, if the way he told the matron story is anything to go by

Genuinely laughed out loud!!

Is she gorgeous? I always think she looks a bit like a duck, for some reason.

I honestly do not see the attraction. If you go into any city centre or look at any group of young people, you see much more "stunning" lookers.

I think it is because she is so "aware" of herself that she actually emanates something akin, in my mind, to "ugliness". Unlike Diana, who seemed so shy and bashful (which was endearing - and I do not think it was faked).

What I do not understand, also, is Harry getting angry because Willy got more sausages at breakfast, had a bigger room... What about the next down? For example, I am all upset that Harry got inherited money for drugs. Why did I never get cocaine? Waaaaaaa!!!

I imagine William was very aware that he couldn’t afford to put a foot wrong. Couldn’t be seen drunk, or hit photographers or take drugs. Couldn’t have an unwise one night stand. That’s a tremendous burden. An extra sausage or bigger room seems a small compensation.

I haven’t read the book and I think this was covered earlier in this thread. But one thing I really can’t get my head round is how they went to the royal lodge and met the queen and Meghan apparently didn’t know who Andrew was. I mean, she already knew Eugenie. And surely she’d know or been told they were going to andrew’s house? And surely someone would introduce her … or if not, he would introduce himself? It’s hilariously baffling partly because in the scheme of things it doesn’t matter at all! But I wish we could sit them down and ask these burning questions.😀

@resistingreality that was one of the oddest bits of the book. Was Andrew really standing there like a mute for 15 plus mins and then just toddled off with Liz, holding her handbag?? Harry follows it up with another claim that this meant Meghan definitely hadn’t goggled the RF, which he reiterates time and again. To me the whole Meghan hadn’t googled the RF line is bizarre because why this stage they had been going out a while, who wouldn’t have googled them???

She did google the national anthem, though (Netflix).
And she did blog about "Princess Kate" and her wedding prior to meeting Harry (in a blog about girls wanting to be princesses).
Didn't google, my arse.

Maybe she used Bing or Ask Jeeves?

Tbh I think she should have googled. And then googled some more. Perhaps then she might have understood a bit more about how everything was going to be and what sort of things she might be expected to do.

’I had to learn the words to the National Anthem’. Yes Meghan. And since you’re an actress memorising lines should come pretty naturally to you!!

I know, it’s total and complete nonsense but harry said it during their engagement interview so obvs he now has to stick to it. It’s quite sad in a way because he has put so much on to the fact that she hadn’t googled them and knew nothing about the RF. I find it quite hard to believe it’s true and I think it’s very manipulative. If you were going to play down how much you knew about some one’s family surely it’s better to say I don’t know that much rather than I know nothing!

Nailed it 🤣🤣🤣

Everybody Google’s though? I googled my now husband when I first met him and showed my sisters and my mum. 😀 then I obviously had to tell them never to tell him but obviously they did.

That’s what makes this repeated ‘she didn’t google me’ so mad! I noted in Netflix the goal post did move slightly towards I did see his private insta before I actually met him

Meghan/Harry can’t handle that Meghan was mocked for originally claiming she hadn’t googled him. So transparent why they keep trying to subtly prove it’s true. But it’s so tenuous. Makes zero sense that no one introduced her to Andrew, plus it’s her mates dad and it was at his house. And why wouldn’t he have ensured everyone was properly introduced? Did he stand there like a lemon? Sounds like another time where he’s set her up to fail again. It’s a bit weird. She had minimum notice about meeting the Queen. Then when he tells her to curtsy she replies she doesn’t know if he’s joking. Which suggests he’s telling her in a jokey playful way, which caught her off guard and made her feel unsure of whether it was serious or not. Seems an odd thing (a first impression, with your future in laws, a big deal for anyone, more so when it’s a famous formal family headed by the Queen) to play mind games about. He’s somehow managed to convince her that he wasn’t at fault for how he let this all play out, but it’s the family’s fault for having such strange outdated archaic customs (basing that on their Netflix doc and the way they related the incident then). That’s hardcore blame moving gas lighting sh**. After reading the book, I do think he’s more devious than I’d ever thought, he’d also good at playing the victim so it throws people. Reminds me of a covert narc tbh.

Yes I think you are right about a lot there. Thing is he isn’t bright enough to spoof consistently which is why he flips the lid when he is questioned at all. Hope you are feeling better btw!

😁That's great!!

@KAYMACK she has charisma, intelligence, sex appeal & can apparently make someone feel ‘special’. Also someone said her mega watt smile is what makes her particularly stand out.

@Ridemeginger Tom Bowers also claims, apparently, she forensically researched PH, citing Lizzie Cundy as a source, etc & her agent I think/ TB’s book also seems to back up much of what H has said about W, being a fall guy for him.

@Eyerollcentral didn’t Fergie teach M to curtsey? Where was Andrew then? M must have understood the family dynamic?

Could M be pretending she didn’t know he was on purpose as she knows that will REALLY get his goat & wind him up?

Also she wrote blogs referencing the royal family and they ‘met’ on Instagram and there’s the photo of her outside bp. Plus she was a Diana fan girl. Maybe she didn’t need to google him cos he’s quite well known anyway and as a super fan girl maybe she already knew it all 😂

also in one of the versions (there are many) they’ve told about how they met, the recent one in the book is how he fell in love with the dog filter photo he saw on Instagram, they then checked out each others Instagram and she liked his curated pics of exotic locations (that only a rich posh play boy would be able to visit that frequently, cos time and money etc. so a lot could have been gauged from those) so maybe she searched other social platforms rather than a Google search and therefore thinks she’s justified to claim she went in blind. Even though he was a well known celebrity that nearly anyone would have already known some stuff about, without the intensive desk search

sorry that’s really rambly ! I’m bored of bed rest and on a lot of medication

I mean honestly the bit about Andrew is the most believable part of the book. If he was your uncle Andy would you introduce him to people? I fucking wouldn’t! 😅

@Motorcycleemptyness You've got a point there!