Strangest bits in Spare…

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i haven’t quite finished it yet but I wanted to read a thread about some of the weirder bits of Spare, and I haven’t seen a thread where people were discussing those without the ‘H&M’ vs the rest of the RF debate. There are definitely some parts which have made me really question why they were included, and I was wondering if anyone else had any similar thoughts.

The inclusion of the imagery of the poppy fields, and how heroin funds the Taliban. Fair enough. We all know that. The rest of the book is one long ode to posh people taking drugs. Does Prince Harry think the cocaine he takes is gently knitted by fairies and delivered to him by unicorns? Do the drugs he takes not contribute to war and terrorism and misery across the rest of the world (and indeed misery and crime in the UK, where he is 5th in line to be monarch!) I found this quite a strange passage and I was wondering if anyone else had any thoughts, or am I just over thinking it?

Elizabeth Arden cream. ‘Mummy’s lips’. ‘Todger’. Why? But really, why? Why was this included? Why did anyone think it or commit it to paper, and then publish it? Why did I read it? Why am I typing it here? ARGH.

What he actually thinks the relationship between the royal family and the press should actually be. Only reporting true things? Someone had a photo of him taking cocaine. Dressed as a nazi. Calling his colleague a ‘P*ki’. He wasn’t happy, but it was all true. Should journalists not be allowed to report true things? Or should they only be reporting things he wants them to report? Does Andrew get to choose that too? What about everyone else?

What the actual royal family should look like. This was mind bending. He seems to be perfectly happy with the idea of the monarchy, an institution which is predicated on the idea that they’re inherently superior to the rest of us, and that’s their birth right, but seems to massively struggle to apply that to himself and William. If a monarchy is the best system, why shouldn’t the heir be treated differently to the spare? (I don’t believe it is the best system and wish we could abolish them all but I don’t understand how one can believe one but not the other!).

Anyone else have any interesting thoughts?

What's amazing is he still manages to blame it on other people, talks about he didn't know any better of how to treat women from his own experiences.

TAKE SOME DAMN RESPONSIBILITY!

Regarding "Suits" (which I had never, ever heard of). I do know that in the 1990s, there was a Canadian legal show called "Legal Street" that sounds, to my ears, something similar. All sex and stuff. Could "Suits" have been a copycat of this?

I believe "Legal Street" may have been done by the same company which did "Beverly Hills 90210", "Melrose Place", etc. There was something similar around the same time about a Vogue-style magazine.

I read the most recent interview with Briony Gordon in the Telgraph and he is quite blatantly blackmailing them - apologies to Meghan or there will be a second book with more damaging revelations.

I think this is just one projection and there are probably many including Harry’s feelings on thisibling rivalry. I can understand William being very annoyed at having Harry tag along for the first day of Eton. But it is Harry, in his jealousy, who is perpetuating any rift. I also don’t understand how he can reconcile William both fancying disapproving of Meghan?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suits_(American_TV_series)

Set at a fictional New York City law firm, it follows Mike Ross (Patrick J. Adams), who uses his eidetic memory to talk his way into a job as an associate working for successful closer Harvey Specter (Gabriel Macht), despite being a college dropout who never attended law school.[1] Suits focuses on Harvey and Mike winning lawsuits and closing cases, while at the same time hiding Mike's secret.[2] It also features Rick Hoffman as neurotic financial lawyer Louis Litt, Meghan Markle as ambitious paralegal Rachel Zane, Sarah Rafferty as Harvey's legal secretary and confidante Donna Paulsen, and Gina Torres as the firm's managing partner, Jessica Pearson.

I think I only watched the first season and half second - it moved around time slots and while it was very watchable it wasn't so great I took pains to find it again.

Him referring to his mother's disappearance rather than death is upsetting but when it seems to continue for years it starts to seem v strange.
He refers to a soldier from Northern Ireland who served with him and how he tormented him about being Irish. Considering the soldier was in the British army that's very strange, Harry appears to have no sense of delicacy or political insight whatsoever.
The casual reference to Dodi just appearing when they were on holiday in a place he doesn't remember and his mother accepting a diamond bracelet from him which she seemed to like as she wore it often.The references to him as Mummy's friend are also strange.

So true 🤣🤣

‘reconcile William both fancying disapproving of Meghan’ yup the whole book is a cognitive dissonance induced headache 🫠

I also just found it typical of splitting thinking, things are always extreme and dramatic, there’s no nuance or middle ground. I also think because he’s fallen out with certain family members they’re all bad now, claims to have never been close to them but actually doubt that was the actual case.

Uses such exaggerated expressionistic language too, at times it feels like a mills and book / Cartland romance novel / 80s trash girl teen fiction. There are certain types of people that tend to express themselves in this ott way.

To the poster who said if his mother hadn’t died, he would have grown up angry about all her bfs and time away on holidays. Think that’s true. Think Willy being her fav would have been a more overt bone of contention for him too.

And he's so disinterested in the pregnancy test that he falls asleep while Megan is taking the test in the bathroom.

Well, utterly lovely that he is not. However, look to history for how truly shocking royal behaviour can be. This is all pretty tame, honestly - nobody is going to label Charles or William villains based on this. The palace can breathe out and relax. A month's time and it'll be a distant memory.

Distant memory in a month?!
Unlikely!

‘The reality is that Harry was probably largely out of it on drugs and is making up a lot of what happened at the hospital.’

Almost like he was not there ?😉

Or passes out because he's p*ssed...

Yes falling asleep whilst his wife takes a pregnancy test, mucking around when she’s in Labour, not schooling her on etiquette, behaving so badly that she hid upstairs - he doesn’t sound like a good partner. He is unable to extend empathy to his own blood relatives, sounds like he is the same with her. Also using Meghan as a pawn in his passive aggressive digs towards camilla (telling her not to courtesy to her) was v selfish. As that would then affect the dynamic between Meghan and Camilla as well as charles.

also I recall reading somewhere the Queen suggested camilla could help Meghan with royal training. Or camilla offered wheh taking her to lunch? Meghan declined. Can now see Harry saying yeah don’t let’s snub her that will teach her for stealing my bedroom. Nose cut off to spite face.

Yes I agree.

Yes I agree that there are no big bombshells they need to be worried about as an insitution. It's all so trivial and shows H in such a bad light. But they must be so hurt that their loved one has sold them out for money. (Which Harry was incredulous in an interview that people would sell stories about him and MM, with no sense of irony or shame apparent!).

The thing that - upsets - me the most (and I use upsets because although it does not affect me in any way, it truly uosets me) is how he chucks people with no power under the bus. The section dealing with Pat really upset me. That was just despicable IMO and there are many other examples which have been gone over many times. To me he comes across as a mean nasty little person who does not realise other people have feelings; a right to and expectation of privacy etc. If they are not useful to him in some way then he does not even really see them as people it seems.

The article from 2015 referenced up thread says that Harry was notoriously thin skinned. Clearly he was and is and has no self reflection or inner voice telling himself to get a grip. Never mind any external voices telling him the same that he is listening to.

I was a fan of MM at first. Then less so with the unrlenting whining. Now I think she has a pretty rough situation being married to that childish, pathetic dickhead.

To me he comes across as a mean nasty little person who does not realise other people have feelings; a right to and expectation of privacy etc. If they are not useful to him in some way then he does not even really see them as people it seems.

TBF you don't need to be royal to behave like this. Anyway, he is no Uday Hussain. Given the types HMQ called friends, let's be thankful for that.

I also don’t understand how he can reconcile William both fancying disapproving of Meghan?
😂😂😂Is he really that paranoid and deluded? William fancying Meghan? 😬

Leopard?

What now?

And getting a driver to speed through the tunnel his mother died in?

What was his behaviour which drove Meghan upstairs?

And yes - you can fall preg. naturally in your 40s.

Maybe i should just read the effing book

For insight into the roles of the royal staff read Courtiers by Valentine Low. I have just finished it and I don't believe the line about leaking the frostbitten todger story for a second. These people are incredibly loyal and don't want to make a problem for their Prinicpal because all they are doing is creating a problem they have to sort out themselves

Yeah, Omid Scobie gets all his information by osmosis....

Osmosis Scoby

Perhaps someone who’s read it cover to cover can verify but the page extracts were shown on YouTube. 🥴