Harry had little access to money

[babsanderson]

Harry was given Nottingham Cottage a 2 bedroom cottage presumably rent free. He was given security paid by the taxpayers. He was also given a clothing allowance from Charles to pay for clothes for formal public occasions.

But he obviously had little access to money. He bought his casual clothes cheap from TK Maxx and talks about drying shirts on radiators.

When he told Charles he was going to marry Meghan Charles said he could not afford to pay for Meghan and Harry as he was already paying for William and Catherine. Charles suggested Meghan continued working to pay for Garry and Meghan. Meghan paid for furniture from Ikea and sofa.com to improve the furnishings in Nottingham Cottage.

Charles paid for Harry and Meghan's wedding. Although Meghan paid for her own wedding dress. The taxpayers paid for the security.

Remember Harry and Meghan were working Royals.

The taxpayers paid for the renovation of Frogmore Cottage. A cost that Harry and Meghna paid back when they left the Royal Family.

The Civil List used to give a defined amount to each working Royal. But that was changed and all the money went to the heir to dole out.

The Queen and Charles appear to be remarkably stingy towards their own child and grandchild.

I’ve heard it all now. Harry received several hundred thousand cash a year and had HUGE inheritances from both his mother and the queen mother, sitting gathering interest for over ten years until he got his mitts on them. Apart from the fact that he received more than enough to live on through the royal family and had no expenses, he will have had to access to endless credit. The Queen Mother owed several million when she died. Harry isn’t banking with NatWest you know, he doesn’t have to beg for a five hundred quid overdraft.
The reality is the man is tight. That’s why he is dashing down to TK Maxx and sitting in tatty furniture. He couldn’t even be bothered to do up the house he was living in for free. Your take on it is absolutely insane OP!

He has grown up seeing whoever is in charge provide financially for his aunts and uncles or at least provide them with fabulous stately homes!

I know Harry isn't known for his intellect, but surely even he understood that his aunts and uncles were children of the monarch, while he was only a grandchild?

Does that also apply to William and Kate.

They all have fun engagements. Most of Andrew's engagements were playing a round of golf and having dinner at a golf club.

I do not disagree that it is not work, although Invictus is work and a good project. But they all do it. William and Kates engagements include watching tennis, football, taking the kids to a panto, and going to film premieres.

I have sympathy for him for losing his mum at an early age
For having to be "on display" at the funeral
For growing up in the public eye and having teen mistakes/antics being published in papers
For his relationship with Meghan being scrutinised and them potentially being used as scapegoats for others

I struggle to find any sympathy, however, for any of his living arrangements or financial situation. To suggest they were unable to suitably furnish a (in their minds tiny) 2 bed cottage or buy clothes without waiting for a sale is ridiculous.

Maybe they should have arranged a deal with H and M? They might have given a discount!😃

But he obviously had little access to money. He bought his casual clothes cheap from TK Maxx and talks about drying shirts on radiators.

why do you lump 2 and 2 to make 6?

I know millionaires who wear clothes from TKM and who have access to loads of money. They just like cheap clothes.

You have no idea if he had access to money or not.
Clearly he had access to money for drugs, and booze, and trains and planes and cars (to meet women.)

Exactly, @Stepuptowardsinfinity, what's happened to those millions? Has he spent them?

A man in his 30's would definitely have access to his inheritances, any trusts that were set up because he inherited as a child would have long since expired. Unless he was under a conservatorship, similar to Britney, for example? And why would that be?

I reckon he's either spent the lot or didn't want to dip into his millions to buy sofas, etc. Unlike most of us, who would expect to pay for our own furniture at that age!

Exactly,

These posters who are regularly trying to convince us that Harry is a victim by obscuring the fact that the man was an upper class, multi millionaire, with drivers, accommodation and very little expenses of his own.
Makes you think who is actually starting all these threads because no British person would ever feel concerned by the finances and opportunities of a member of the Aristocracy. None!

"His family is rather unusual though. He has grown up seeing whoever is in charge provide financially for his aunts and uncles or at least provide them with fabulous stately homes!
As the son of the heir it was a reasonable expectation to have as least as large a house as Andrew, Edward or Anne provided for him! In Harry’s eyes, he is nearer to the Crown now in terms of status, but that shift of power was not reflected in money or property."

Timing is a huge factor here though; the royal family generally give the big houses on marriage. Charles was the exception (I think he bought Highgrove himself, but then he was already Duke of Cornwall), but Ann, Andrew and Edward all got big houses when they got married.

And this is exactly what happened with William and Kate too, and what was happening with Harry and Meghan. Until it all went pete tong

I have to be honest I am assuming those are PAID product placements in the book. Sofa.com & TKMaxx must have paid a fortune to appear.

It's abit similar to his inability to get Meghan help when she was struggling, despite having his own therapist. It almost sounds as if he isn't willing to do anything himself, unlike most people in their 30's.

I can’t bring myself to feel sorry for him because he didn’t get lots of cash to live the luxury life he felt entitled to. He is able bodied and could have sought regular paid employment if he was struggling.

But he obviously had little access to money. He bought his casual clothes cheap from TK Maxx and talks about drying shirts on radiators

I bet he also bought the M&S dine in for 2 deals to save money. ( after getting advice on which chips go with what meat from you know who )

If not, he massively missed an opportunity for free food AND advertising royalties! Now there is a thought 🤔...

He hadn’t touched the legacies apparently, as he said in his book he wanted to keep them for his children. This was at the very end when he was moaning about Charles not shelling out for him any more. The entitlement is real! I am sure a lot of people would like not to have to use their own money to pay for the things I need to survive but that’s life!
There have been rumours that he is a skinflint for years and neither Chelsea or Cressida were bowled over with his generosity. To be fair they are the only two people in the book, bar his wife, that he doesn’t say anything negative about.

Harry said he used his inheritance from his mum to buy the Montecito house, so he definitely had money back then. I agree that he’s just tight with money. I think the accounts showed that Charles was spending around 5 million pounds a year on his children.

This over privileged twat might not be able to spend his millions exactly as he wants when he wants (maybe King Charles has at least some regard for the optics) but that is not the same as having no access to money. The insufferable prick.

Spot on @MandyMotherOfBrian . Perfectly put.

Then start a thread on all the royals attitude to work.

But you started a thread regarding Harry and his limited finances. That he was a working Royal. I’m pointing out that he a lot of these engagements are actually jollies and he could hardly be valued as a ‘working’ royal.

I find it extremely strange you are worried by the finances of a millionaire Aristocrat

And also, Ann, Edward and Andrew were the sons and daughter of the reigning monarch.

At the time of marriage, Harry was only the grandson.

Plus, it's a different generation and what might have been considered appropriate decades ago may not be now. Don't people want the royal family to modernise?

@babsanderson , if you can't see why having over £30 million privately inherited is actually enough money for anyone (esp if supplemented by a free Wren-designed house in central London and an allowance, however small, for doing a small amount of work), then I really don't think anyone is going to convince you.

Just to be clear, even if living off of a moderate amount of interest, that kind of inheritance would mean about £1.4 million a year as an income. It would suit most people just fine.

He isn’t now though is he?

And during the last couple of years, it was pretty obvious that his father would soon be taking up the top job!

The family obviously still perceive him
as the naughty grandchild when he’s a married man with children.

How galling in those circumstances to be the son of the monarch and see your aunt and uncles living in better circumstances than you do?

He hasn’t been treated respectfully imho and I hazard a guess that this harks back in some subconscious way to Charles’s seeing him as a Spenser not a Windsor! And the Windsors still hold all the power!

William has the protection of being heir which Harry does not.

And of course the press are far more interested nowadays in what stately pile has been acquired for which family member, than in the days when the Queen bought Gatcombe for example, which would have been covered by a paragraph or two in a newspaper.

I doubt he was even paying for his own drugs tbh

And yeah, the photos from Nottingham cottage look totally like some cheap bachelor pad 😂

tbh Charles would be called a financial abuser at MN from this description but I don’t feel one bit sorry for these people

The Civil List gave each member a set amount determined by their status in the hierarchy. But that was a fixed set amount

Have you looked at what the civil list paid Harry?

What about his wages from the Army?

What about his inheritance?

Has he claimed he needed to shop in the sales at TK Maxx? Or just that's where he liked to shop?

He hadn’t touched the legacies apparently, as he said in his book he wanted to keep them for his children.

Wow! @Eyerollcentral . Shall we make a pact to not spend our salaries or savings on our living expenses, because we'd rather keep them for our children? My car needed an expensive part replaced last month - I wonder what the garage would have said if I'd told them that I couldn't use my savings to pay their bill, because I'm keeping the money for my children?!

I am no royal fan but wasn’t he also given a house in frogmore and millions was spent renovating it to the standard they wanted? He was treated exactly the same as everyone else financially.

Sorry, I'm not sure what you are suggesting should be done.

Harry lives in California now, through his own choice. His career appears to be slagging off the very family you suggest should be paying for him. Had he remained a working royal in Britain, I suspect he would have been gifted either a posh apartment in Kensington Palace or a country pile. But he didn't. He left. To make money from attacking his family in public. Choices have consequences, at least they do for most of us.

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz The Civil List gave Harry nothing. As I said that had been changed so all the money went to the Queen to give out. She decided how much anyone got, if they got anything.
We have no idea of he got his Services salary or if the Royal Family gave it to charity as commonly happens.