Can someone please explain chapter 34 of spare to me please? Harry did drugs but then gets annoyed they publish it?!

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Am I right here? He was smoking pot - and got annoyed the press published a story to say he was doing drugs?!!

It sounds as though the article was greatly exaggerated but he had still been doing drugs am I correct here?

I also don't understand how charles and Camilla through him under a bus? Is this purely because they didn't stop the story?

Please someone explain! Genuinely have I missed something here?

And none of us ever took drugs when we were young of course. Who cares.

This.
Only halfway through myself but not long finished reading this part.
He's open in any drug taking. It's the lies from the media he has a problem with.

To add, the lies from the media and his family refusing to have his back because it makes them and their narrative better.

The counter argument is that Harry being a bellend doing drugs would damage his father's reputation if the media found out in another way. Harry clearly wasn't listening to sensible advice and the 'clean up squad' had to keep covering up his behaviour because he was being a bellend and not taking responsibility. Camilla's son had been done for possession by this point I believe. In leaking when Charles had got Harry to rehab it would hopefully both protect Charles and give Harry a rocket up the arse in terms of understanding how his behaviour had consequences and might damage the crown or might actually end up harming him because he wasn't listening to people telling him the traditional way. Harry just wanted to be a selfish bellend.

I'm sorry but I find it hard to have sympathy with someone so privileged who has engaged in drug use saying it's no biggie when its built on criminal activity and funds criminal activity. It's not innocent. It involves trafficking and human exploitation and violence. But Harry wanted to party and have fun because his family were so boring and he didn't think the rules should apply to a rich kid like him.

This angle and spin doesn't work any better than alternative perspectives.

It's just more Harry being a dick and not taking responsibility and it's everyone else's fault but his. And smacks of Prince Andrew levels of entitlement.

Nevermind the potential security risk issues....

Exactly, he spends his life surrounded by staff, does he really think that they don’t exist as real people?

Plus all the students and staff at Eton. Plus the people he bought the drugs from. My memories from the time are that he dabbled very briefly in drugs but clearly that impression was completely untrue and a lot was covered up!

Nevermind the potential security risk issues....

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@RedToothBrush I completely agree (I have always enjoyed your Brexit threads)

It could only have been Camilla?

Because of course there are no security staff, cleaners, courtiers, etc about at is residences (or school for that matter), one only ever does drugs alone and not with anyone else that might know this, and they magically appear to you from thin air.

Right!

He has fried his brains on the drugs he took.

“Famous person does drugs” is absolutely going to be a story about any famous person if the press gets wind of it. Celebs, footballers, public figures - I can think of stories about all of those. Double that if they are underage.

Harry did drugs, and other people were around when he did them. The press office’s role is not to stop the press reporting on things that they have found out that are actually true.

Exactly this

Re: It must have been camilla who leaked his drug use

Of course large numbers of maids, body guards, drivers etc etc also witnessed things! The point Harry is making is that Camilla made deals with the press to leak what she had been told, presumably by servants. Negative stories (some of them untrue) were given to the press in exchange for deals to print positive stories about her. Read the book!

@JustWhattheDoctorOrdered I'm now halfway through the boom and so far it just seems like an accusation - I still don't see any evidence to support his statements?

Why are you assuming those people would go to Camilla? They’d go direct to the press, wouldn’t they?

I’ve read the book. It’s fantasy.

Fwiw it's also a very very boring book 🥱

I'm hoping when he meets Meghan it spices Up a bit 🤣

Camilla would have gained nothing from leaking this.

Drug use made Harry look like a delinquent, off the rails due to bad parenting, left to his own devices, absent father - too busy with Camilla to guide his boys etc.

If the men in grey suits refused to cover for him or couldn't bury stories of drug use anymore it doesn't mean they planted them. He was taking drugs, he knew the risk that this would make the newspapers, he made that choice.

He will blame the press for all his mistakes and bad decisions.

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seriously you think it’s a boring book?!

I can totally understand if you find the RF boring, I am not a royalist myself. I am partial to royal gossip though and I have never in my life (60 years) have read anything so full of Jaw dropping revelations about them. I don’t necessarily mean extraordinary stuff, but reading about forays into TK Max or casual descriptions of smoking a joint or Princess Margaret giving H a wrapped biro as a Christmas present or H saying he had drunk alcohol from a prosthetic leg more times than he could count.. it is full of surprises. Crass, untruthful, badly written, petty, Ill judged: all of those things but not boring!

@trucklebrunch read the book! H gives a lot of reasons why camilla would gain from leaking stories about him.

@JustWhattheDoctorOrdered yes lol genuinely I find the army accounts drivel!

So, so boring.

Anyway I will persevere as I want the tittle tattle Meghan bits to be honest!

I also enjoyed the beginning before the army parts actually.

I also still think he's wrong for putting these accusations on Camilla without hard evidence. I would have to be 1000 percent sure to do something like that to my mother in law

I am 2/3 through it and it is a good gossipy but frustrating read. Every time I start to feel any sympathy he says something so obnoxious or self obsessed. The press have made his life a misery at times but at the end of the day he has done drugs with enthusiasm and is evasive in his re-telling of events. He presents the book as the final record but there are massive gaps. He is telling a story and not particularly honestly. There is little reflection on his own actions and he is always, always looking for someone else to blame. He seems to have very little generosity of spirit towards others and in his younger life no examples of him being kind to anyone or even nice. He has chucked all this mud but it’s based on nothing concrete, especially given the gravity of allegations about Camilla. He is presenting his feelings as fact and doesn’t back them up with anything.

He's flinging all sorts of accusations at Camilla, but there's no evidence whatsoever. The stories could have been given to the press by anyone - Camilla's obviously going to be the scapegoat in Harry's eyes.

I honestly think that Camilla narrative is to hurt Charles and get the reaction he seems desperate for. I think Harry knows that Charles will brush off what’s said about him, so goes for his Achilles heel. The abuse Camilla has received on Twitter is vile, for having an affair with a married man. If that was Diana I know Harry would be screaming about abuse and privacy.

For the love of God, stop telling us all to read the book. Some of us have and have concluded it’s a pack of lies the product of an overactive, paranoid imagination. He hates Camilla and he’d say anything to try and convince his reader she’s evil. It hasn’t worked for this reader.

You really can’t understand that some might see a difference between what you choose to reveal about yourself, and having the choice taken away from you by the media? Really?

Even if you don’t agree, you can’t grasp that? You’re flummoxed by the very idea?

How remarkable.