Ajay the tailor speaks about the flower girl dresses

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11620179/Tailor-centre-Meghan-Kates-bridesmaid-dress-row-speaks-out.html

No surprises here. Days before the wedding the dresses didn’t fit. Couture gowns, made by Givenchy from measurements sent in. This tailor worked day and night but they had all six dresses to fix. It’s obvious they couldn’t get it all done. They really needed remade.

I think we can see why Kate was upset and why Charlottes dress and some of the other younger flower girls dresses looked awful.

What I don’t get is why Meghan was on the floor crying over a spat with Kate? Surely you’d have a little temper cry standing or sitting but in floods of tears on the floor is very dramatic - that kind of collapsing in a heap on the floor is a response when your whole world has been shaken or you’ve lost a dear family member and your legs give way. On the floor? Over a dress?
Of course her father had just had a heart attack but no, the laying on the floor wailing was over…a kids dress!?!
overacting much?

From watching the Netflix series, Meghan seems someone who cries a lot. Thats not a bad thing, we should all be free to express our emotions but also its much less of a big deal if someone "makes" you cry and you're an easy crier.

I think if I was under as much stress as she was at that time you'd find me on the floor crying but I think it was wrong of her to blame Kate for making her cry.

The narrative at one point was that Charles called her tungsten because of how tough she was but Harrys book and the Netflix series makes her seem constantly on the verge of breakdown even after they left the Royal Family.

He’s a high end tailor and has seamstresses/dressmakers as part of his team

He also makes clothes for Elton John and other celebrities.

Perhaps Elton put them in touch with him.

Sorry, just to add, I googled out of curiosity (being in bed waiting for your knee replacement op is boring) and he had previously altered a dress for Meghan. It was the one she wore to the Endeavor Awards. There is mention of him during a interview saying he had worked with The RF and celebs including George Clooney, Ben Affleck and Stormzy.

Why should it matter who the client is if they're happy to take their money? Not being someone of "significance" shouldn't mean bad service.

Both look beautiful and both men are handsome.

Most sensible comment.

@Harrysfrostbittentodger
According to Camilla Tominey of the Daily Telegraph, who broke the news of Kate crying, she had that information from 2 different sources.
I personally think they both cried, but at different times.
That Meghan was on the floor crying was witnessed solely by Harry, so of course this was not in the papers.

I remember in the nineties kiss-and-tell stories would circulate insinuating that the reason fit models had become so (dangerously) thin was because the visionary artistes at the helms of the big houses were unable to deal with mundanities like darts and pleats. And of red carpet dresses being held on with gaffa tape. It's like The Emperor's New Clothes but with tailors who believe their own hype.
I rekon one possible explanation for the situation is that the dresses were finished about a month before the wedding but needed to be remade, so were sent back to Givenchy. When the second lot of dresses didn't fit they were given to a London tailor with experience in children's clothes and with adapting haute couture for wear off the catwalk.

Awe you've just reminded me I think it was the Canada trip when she was having a bit of a tiff on the runway and Catherine had to "have a word" 🤣🤣 she was in a little blue floral dress and looked so cute even if she was "having a moment" haha.

😄 I didn't call on his help because I've spent a lifetime dealing with opinionated people ... but I appreciated his offer. What strikes me is that Harry didn't seem able to balance, ground or support Meghan. It must be exhausting for her to have a partner who thrives on recreating and rehashing drama in his book and interviews but doesn't offer practical help to avoid the drama in the first place.

Has anyone got the exact phrase from Spare that describes Meghan crying on the floor ? Does it say that she threw herself /collapsed ?
I imagine she might be the kind of person for whom it would be quite normal to sit on the floor (in her ripped jeans and bare feet) .
Sorry to derail this thread from it's emphasis on sewing and haute couture .

M didn’t just cry, she was on the floor sobbing, bless her.Not an utterly disproportionate response at all, if it even happened. We keep hearing about it because, IMHO, M hates to be in the wrong and is jealous of Kate. She seems to be obsessed with this story that everyone would have forgotten about.

@pedigreechump1 I don’t know if Meghan can sew or not. Not sure I would trust Harry to know! Also, there is dabbling in a bit of sewing and then there is being able to alter and grade a pattern.

I think the fact that there were some tears at a high stress time over petty stuff is understandable and not surprising. Thinking it’s significant and it being important 5 years later is odd. Harry’s revelations are a “nothing burger.”

We keep hearing about it because it's in the book and the media ,and people like us like talking about it.

Absolutely. Of course the person to compromise in that situation should be the grown woman rather than the 3 year old whose body it is. Completely warped priorities to think otherwise.

I do feel sorry for Meghan in this situation though. You'd think Givenchy would be a safe pair of hands!

I don't feel sorry for Megan, she is a drama lama. It was Kate's responsibility to ensure Charlotte looked happy and relaxed and was up for the job on the day. If Charlotte hated the feel of the garment she'd likely look grumpy on the pictures, which was in nobody's interest. I simply can't understand why Harry would go over all this again, him and his wife really must be harbouring grudges, which isn't healthy. Harry has been awfully inconsiderate mentioning Charlotte as part of a controversy in this book. As a direct result, his young niece has become subject to global media scrutiny and online trolling. This from a man who hates the media (which he is now part of) and who blames excessive media attention for his mother's death. He must be hard of thinking, have zero empathy or just desire to hurt William and Kate where it hurst the most.

This is the crux of the issue.

You have a drama llama who’s met a perpetual, paranoid man with a victim complex.

Neither are good at taking accountability.

Meghan is endlessly complaining about how she felt she ‘got things wrong’ such as the curtesy and lack of knowledge about clothing.

But NEVER even begins to address the fact of why Harry, a man who at that point has 34 years experience, advised her. Does she not think it was his job to guide her?

I remember watching William and Catherine’s engagement interview, and he said in response to why it took him ‘so long’ to propose was because he wanted to ensure she fully understood what would be expected of her and her role. And that is a huge learning curve that can only be fully understood over time.

Having seen his brother’s whirlwind romance of a LDR, I think William’s stance is incredibly wise.

I agree with this but I do think it’s funny people are suggesting Meghan – who will have had seven years of daily costumes with tweaks and fittings on Suits, plus fittings for her other acting work, plus red carpets and events and appearances etc etc – would know zilch about fashion and dressmaking and the need for alterations and remakes, but Kate is an expert because she pretend to work part-time at Jigsaw for a bit so the press wouldn’t call her workshy when she was waiting around for Will to propose a lifetime of workshyness.

(Obviously since then she’s had a similar level of dress fittings to Meghan I imagine, because of events. They probably have the same level of knowledge.)

The difference between “tweaks” to off-the-rack clothes that Meghan will have experienced on set, and having clothes made to measure for you by a couture atelier is absolutely vast though!

“Let’s shove a pin in here/tack this blouse down here/take off this embellishment” etc is a world of difference to actually making clothes, and discussions about how they will be made. Not comparable at all.

I'm sure I've read an article previously that Meghan actually complained and eventually got them to ease off a little on her suits outfits because initially they had her wearing everything skin tight.

But that would have been off the peg adjustments, and children are very different to adults as well. Less wiggle room

@pelargoniums Kates maybe not an expert bit she recognised the dresses were beyond a "simple take it in a little" consulted a proper expert, the taylor, who in turn ended up spending hours with his team trying to make the dresses which must have been miles too big fit.

I actually think the whole situation must have been so stressful, for both of them. Can you imagine even a small family wedding and the dresses turn up days before the wedding miles too big?
The RF had money to throw at fixing it but most Brides would have cried or be running off to the nearest bridal shop looking for new dresses

@Sugarfree23 Didn’t Meghan consult and organise the tailor? Kate asked Sarah Burton for her verdict. Which to me is the big no-no: those were Givenchy dresses and Meghan was the bride; Kate, a guest, asking a rival designer, was rude. But the weirdest part is that Givenchy didn’t manage the whole process correctly in the first place, and that Meghan and Kate were discussing this at all – where was CWK, where was the wedding planner, where were the fittings?

I don’t disagree, I just find it funny that Kate is presumed an expert based on a pretend Jigsaw job and a few years of experience her own alterations and one MTM wedding dress. Meghan was married before, she had as much wedding gown experience as Kate!

Wasn't that during the roughly 24 hours where Meghan just wasn't answering? She was probably trying to get it fixed herself given the timescales