Inconsistencies in Spare over hearing about Queen Mother's death

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Harry writes that he found out about the Queen Mother's passing away (in March 2002):

"At Eton, while studying, I took the call. I wish I could remember whose voice was on the other end. A courtiers I believe. I recall that is was just before Easter, the weather bright and warm, light slanting through my window, filled with vivid colours. "Your Royal Highness. The Queen Mother has died." "

News reports at the time reported he was skiing in Switzerland with Charles and William. The Queen Mother died on 30 March 2002. Easter Saturday. He wouldn't have been at school.

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Recollections may vary, indeed! I doubt very much Harry would have taken the call if he's been with his father.

Didn't the editors do any fact checking?

I don't know, I think TB was a little bit tougher on Harry than he was expecting, Harry definitely got tetchy at times in the half of the interview that I saw. I have no idea whether or not W has changed his views on TB.

Mr Moehringer tweeted the Duke’s words: “Whatever the cause, my memory is my memory, it does what it does…and there’s just as much truth in what I remember and how I remember it as there is in so-called objective facts.” Ie a lot of this book is a load of eyewash. Like when he talks about “feeling embarrassed by our Ikea lamps and the second-hand sofa we’d recently bought on sale with Meg’s credit card on sofa.com.” Does he expect anyone intelligent to believe this BS?

Prince William (left), his father Prince Charles (centre) and Prince Harry (right) leave RAF Northolt airbase, west London, on March 31, 2002 after , reportedly interrupting their ski holidays following the death of the Queen Mother.

and there’s just as much truth in what I remember and how I remember it as there is in so-called objective facts.”

In other words, I'll come out with any bullshit I like and demand it be treated as a historic record and the absolute truth because I say it's true.

I'm lost as to what his problem is now - entitlement, arrogance, personality disorder or plain old thick as mince.

So I could lie but because I says it’s my truth it’s true? I don't understand!

Harry posed with his brother William and father Charles on a media call on March 29, having recently overcome a bout of glandular fever in time to hit the slopes.

You have to realise that people who buy into this sort of stuff are buying into a cult where objectivity doesn’t matter. Same with critical race theory. If you deny it you have ‘white fragility’!

Anyone who still stands by Harry's narrative he was told of the Queen Mother's death in a telephone call possibly by a courtier whilst at Eton is a.......lost cause.

Charles would have told his boys given they were all together in Klosters, Switzerland.

Queen Mother died on 30th March 2002. The day before, Harry took part in a media call at Klosters with his father and brother. The day after the three were back in the UK.

Clearly, nobody can take Harry's words or memories at face value. What else is he wrong about in Spare in addition to the lies and distortions told in the Oprah Winfrey interview? 🤔🤥

Surely nothing nothing can match the moment in chapter 42 when the Duke vents his fury at Paul Burrell, his mother’s former butler.
Why? Because, the Duke fumes, the man had betrayed the Royal family by writing a “tell-all” book.
“It made my blood boil,” seethes the Duke. After all, they had “trusted him implicitly”. And anyway, the book “was merely one man’s self-justifying, self-centring version of events…”
Could anyone with any IQ or any self-insight write such a thing in a ‘tell-all’ book where he has just thrown his. Family under a bus for £20 million? One thing it shows that everything in the book is likely to be the same sort of BS

No self awareness at all. I can’t believe people buy into this. And keep a straight face.

Spare Change l
Like the descendent of crazed matadors who put Spare in the “early release program”, I too can’t wait for the follow-on books that are a promise on the horizon of this budding artist in the throes of his first epic literary achievement.
Some have already begun to compare him to James Joyce, which I think is apt: the book is unreadable (unless you are hallucinating and in a lively discussion with latrines in a book club).
That said, I am concerned he may experience writer’s block in face of the pressure to produce three follow-on blockbuster bestsellers.
So, here is a muse-like heartfelt tip to get him started:
“Spare Change”: This faux autobiographical account imagines Harry’s meteoric descent from the heights of literary fame to panhandling on the streets of Montecito.
He situates himself just outside “Lucky’s”, a famed Montecito restaurant.
The location was chosen by his wife, PR guru and literary agent, for its ironic backdrop.

While he hits up patrons at the front door who he is used to battle with over the most coveted tables, his entrepreneurial wife peddles used bridesmaid dresses soaked in “Meghan’s Tears” – a top shelf laundry detergent softener which had formerly added millions to the family’s “kitty” and that once flew off the shelves as a result of being heavily promoted by the F50 manufacturer in atonement for the wrongs committed against her when she was 12 years old.
While it starts out grim, the story has a Frank Capraesque quality when a new-in-town, hot-shot literary agent trips over Harry’s heavily damaged Bruno Maglis, a brand he favors and could once afford, that he bought at a box store outside of town.
The agent, thinking he caused the damage, immediately apologizes and asks how he can make him “whole” (obviously not recognizing the once unofficial Mayor of Montecito as he was forced to shave his dominant-gene ginger beard since he could no longer afford a personal barber).
His willingness to apologize – with no strings attached – triggers something primordial in Harry.

Harry explains he is a famed author and is currently working on a book but can no longer afford to buy paper and he has recently hawked his iPad since he has no electricity.

The agent squats down and they immediately start tough negotiations. I won’t reveal the ending (proof I have no Spanish blood roiling through my veins), but it ends very well for Harry – not so much for his wife who he replaces as his literary agent.

Spare Change l
Like the descendent of crazed matadors who put Spare in the “early release program”, I too can’t wait for the follow-on books that are a promise on the horizon of this budding artist in the throes of his first epic literary achievement.

Some have already begun to compare him to James Joyce, which I think is apt: the book is unreadable (unless you are hallucinating and in a lively discussion with latrines in a book club).

That said, I am concerned he may experience writer’s block in face of the pressure to produce three follow-on blockbuster bestsellers.

So, here is a muse-like heartfelt tip to get him started:

“Spare Change”: This faux autobiographical account imagines Harry’s meteoric descent from the heights of literary fame to panhandling on the streets of Montecito.
He situates himself just outside “Lucky’s”, a famed Montecito restaurant.
The location was chosen by his wife, PR guru and literary agent, for its ironic backdrop.

While he hits up patrons at the front door who he is used to battle with over the most coveted tables, his entrepreneurial wife peddles used bridesmaid dresses soaked in “Meghan’s Tears” – a top shelf laundry detergent softener which had formerly added millions to the family’s “kitty” and that once flew off the shelves as a result of being heavily promoted by the F50 manufacturer in atonement for the wrongs committed against her when she was 12 years old.

While it starts out grim, the story has a Frank Capraesque quality when a new-in-town, hot-shot literary agent trips over Harry’s heavily damaged Bruno Maglis, a brand he favors and could once afford, that he bought at a box store outside of town.

The agent, thinking he caused the damage, immediately apologizes and asks how he can make him “whole” (obviously not recognizing the once unofficial Mayor of Montecito as he was forced to shave his dominant-gene ginger beard since he could no longer afford a personal barber).
His willingness to apologize – with no strings attached – triggers something primordial in Harry.

Harry explains he is a famed author and is currently working on a book but can no longer afford to buy paper and he has recently hawked his iPad since he has no electricity.

The agent squats down and they immediately start tough negotiations. I won’t reveal the ending (proof I have no Spanish blood roiling through my veins), but it ends very well for Harry – not so much for his wife who he replaces as his literary agent.

In his televised interviews, Harry has made a point of saying that his book is important for historical records/history/etc.

What a bloody joke. The idiots across various threads, defending and twisting the narrative, are also a bloody joke.

Harry is a first-class melt.

so-called objective facts

This really pisses me off. Some things are objectively true. There is even a whole branch of academic study dedicated to finding and verifying objectively true things - its called "science".

With the study of history, we have to accept that there are things that we do not know for sure due to lack of, or contradictory, evidence. However, even then there is an objectively true thing that happened, we just don't know what it is. With this incident (and the x box one) we actually do have enough evidence that Harry was skiing at the time, and therefore his account is objectively false.

I think if I had to return early from a skiing trip because my great granny had died, I would probably remember it.

Very odd that Harry gives a fictional version.

The other stand out was that Harry, William and Charles travelled home from Switzerland on the same plane. This was a break in protocol - heirs to the throne travelling together by plane. Surely that would have stuck in his mind as it would have been very unusual, possibly unprecedented in his life.

Tk maxx have come out to say that they don’t do sales, so Harry saying that he was fond of their sales for his everyday clothes is yet more tripe https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/tk-maxx-prince-harry-spare-b2260487.html?amp

They're doing a Harry @GinaandMartin

Basically he tells us in the introduction that what he says is probably unreliable, but we have to treat it as worthy of note as ‘objective facts’ (hate that phrase).
it’s just bullshit - and if he can’t get something as major as when and where he was when he was told his great grandmother had died right, how the hell are we to believe the rest of it?

(incidentally, I was about the same age when my own very ancient great grandmother died - she was not a public figure but I can tell you when and where I was when Mum told me the news…)

It’s “their truth”. They are mocking him.

I wish they did have sales like that, it sounds amazing

New Idea??? Oops, there goes any of the credibility you are scrambling to achieve.

Obviously, you've never seen it, or you wouldn't us it as a source. It makes the Daily Mail look like the epitome of journalistic gravitas.

If you know you memory is very unreliable, probably best to check everything. Also beat not to say you want the book to be historical record.

I think it’s incredibly convenient that his recall changed this event so much, that he can use it as another example of how his family didn’t treat him like family. His recall is a story of how he was alone on finding out in a short phone call, from someone who he barely knows. Left to deal with hearing the news alone. Rather than a family member contacting him or going to him to tell him and to be with him.

It’s really convenient that his recall fits his narrative about his family he is peddling. How much of the other stuff is his unreliable recall that seems to change events so he was alone and unsupported, when the facts show that he wasn’t?

Are there any "truths" in this book? Actually starting to feel a bit sorry for him now.

The problem is that a lot of the stuff that we remember when we are kids is only vague memories. Unless he has kept a very extensive diary, which is probably not the case, most of this is probably made up. There are things I recall from my youth but most of it would be made up. When you are actually saying stuff which will harm your family you have better get it right else it is libellous. Harry is obviously just dishing out stuff from the top of his mind that he thinks it’s true but probably never happened anyway. Who knows whether the losing his virginity bit happened or was that just part of his drug addled imagination? The whole thing is probably suspect as to factual. Like when you read James Herriot you can say it’s based on fact but when you actually checked the facts it is not quite what it seems