I've completely lost track of what his problem is.

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I admit to not having followed any of this rubbish too closely but I couldn't actually say now what exactly has upset him.

Regarding emotional neglect, I used to think he was emotionally neglected. But one thing which has come out of all of this for me is just how emotionally present Charles has actually seemed. Calling his boys 'dear boys' and 'darlong boy' even into adulthood, patting them on the back often, telling the whole country in the kings press conference that he loves Harry.

Most emotionally neglectful parents don't call your 'dear', tell the world they love you, talk tenderly to you, and physically touch you in public (back pat's etc.)

I don't think Charles is as cold as I used to think. I feel sorry for him that Harry has publically told the world he's a bad father and caused a huge rift in Charles' final years

I’m not following all of this but Harry sounds like a petulant teenager
“I never asked to be born and you’ve ruined my life, it’s all your fault and I HATE YOU!! Can you give me £20 to go out with my mates and drive me into town now?”

I agree. Out of curiosity, I googled images of Charles hugging Harry and there are lots of pictures, well into adulthood.
Was he a perfect parent? Probably not.
Is Harry?

He thinks he’s found “wokeness” (it’s just decency, Harry, and you round it weirdly late in life).

Except it doesn’t apply to him, does it?

He wants to be in a hierarchy, but only at the top.

He has a pretty scummy view of lots of people. Clinging to that title for dear life! He’s not like the rest of us! (Did anyone get to the bottom as to whether that quote about his matron at school was real? Because if so he needs to seriously step away from Invictus. I just can’t believe he’d say that (though he has been a racist, so…))

He isn’t qualified to do anything and has proven to be wholly unreliable and untrustworthy (at least from my perspective, was waiting for him to out the racist… oh WELL!). Would you trust him to speak to? Or is it all just content to another book/podcast/Netflix show/ speech to him?

He forgets the public don’t owe him anything. We aren’t his family, his therapists, his allies. We can’t be made to like him. We’re not responsible for everything that’s happened in his life. He has the mic now and is ballsing it up massively. I’m younger than him and he looks like a middle aged bigot.

Dare I say it… other than the offence he causes, almost troll-like, he’s boring.

Meghan, on the other hand, I quite like and feel terrible for being stuck with this idiot. Meghan, bring back your blog, and have a happy life away from this problematic arse.

H&M are the posher, richer version of those idiots who go on Jeremy Kyle to "confront their family and sort out their differences" or whatever other bullshit reason they say and which totally has nothing to do with the money they'll no doubt be paid for it, no never, not at all

William got a bigger bedroom
Harry was allowed to keep his beard for his wedding day.
He fell on a dog bowl.
The bin grew a head.
Seals sing back to Meghan.
Charles has a teddy bear.
Harry is scared of Angela Kelly.
He got frostbite on his todger.
Someone parked in his dead mum's space.
He wasn't best man at Will's wedding.
His ass was slapped by an older woman losing his virginity in a field behind a pub.
He didn't give a speech at Will's wedding.
Kate made a face when Meg asked to borrow her lipgloss.
It was Kate and Williams fault he dressed at a Nazi.
Kate didn't like Meg saying she had baby brain.
He kept a lock of Diana's hair next to his bed and that helped the fall pregnant.
He killed 25 Taliban and called them chess pieces.
Something to do with a tiara (couldn't be assed to read).
They didn't call the RF racist, the media made it all up.
Meghan wasn't allowed at Queen's deathbed.
They were put in a small cottage instead of a castle and decorated it from IKEA.
Despite being a millionaire, cocklodger Harry made Megan pay for all the IKEA stuff on her credit card.
Meghan had to put it on her CC.
Harry took drugs with Courtney Cox.
A courtier parked in front of his windows at KP and blocked the light
Same courtiers wife had her hair cut and some blew in through Harry's window and went in his mouth.
Charles has a back problem.
Charles wasn't a good single parent and didn't hug him.
Nobody helped Meghan when she was suicidal, despite Harry having a therapist for 7 years.
There was a kerfuffle over Bridesmaids dresses and there are 25 different versions of it, but Nobody has given the correct story, apart from Meghan.

Camilla or her office leaked nasty stories to rebuild her image.

Willy wouldn't speak to him at school.

I’ve a bit about about paying for IKEA furniture. Did they put it together themselves or use the assembly service?

I think the list of what Harry hasn’t got issue with or taken offence to would be much shorter.

I actually like how the press is all on him now tbh rather than Meghan as his showing himself up for who he is and nobody can blame her and nobody can say it’s racist either as it’s silly Harry ballsing this all up all on his own with his own words and actions.

Wonder if she’s going give him enough rope and he’ll hang himself with his words while she sits with a cup of coffee listening to another rambling rant from him.

They’re only 3/4 and 1/2. He’ll learn

Well, he could be a perfect parent in the future, @LittleBearPad , but few of us are.
I hope Archie and Lilibet don't criticise his parenting publicly.

And call the thread ‘Spared’

I think you are right @daretodenim, if he suddenly inherited the throne his trauma would evaporate perhaps due to his external locus of evaluation, he'd get the validation that he was 'something special' (as perhaps would his wife)

The one thing he never mentions is that he hadn’t seen his mother for a month before she died, desperately sad and I should imagine a big compounding factor in his distress.

Same courtiers wife had her hair cut and some blew in through Harry's window and went in his mouth.

What?? Tell me he hasn't had a whinge about that? Where was she having her hair cut? How is this possible?

He thought [insert appallingly racist word] was the same as Yankee.

😂😂😂😂 this thread is very funny. Loving The List. Reminds me of the book The house that Jack built or in this case The Palace Harry tries to destroy. 😂😂

His problem begins with M and ends in N.

My mum died when I was 13, I was left with no family support, I'm 60 now, I'm still a bit fucked up by it. If you know, you know. And I wasn't even made to parade around shaking hands, and no amount of money would have helped me.

Things seem to be split about the book/press etc into those who believe he should just have gotten over it, and those who know he can't, either through experience or because they have an ounce of empathy. I too find that people always thought I should have just pulled myself together, and when people are discussing bereavement e.g., "my nan died she was 99" and I say I was orphaned at 13, the conversation goes quiet because no one wants to talk about a child suffering when that child is an adult. However, they do really like to talk about people like @notsosoftanymore's DH, who don't embarass anyone with their messy grief.

Bugger, tagged the wrong person, sorry @notsosoftanymore I was quoting a post you'd already quoted.

I don’t think he should have got over it. I think he needs help. I think this book and his rage with the press won’t help him get over it. I don’t think telling his story multiple times, and with multiple versions will either.

I don't care much for any of the Royal family but you lot on this thread are just nasty. It's weird. Leave the poor fuckers alone.

Count yourself lucky to be so unaware and ignorant regarding childhood trauma and grief. l hope he finds peace.

’certain people’, ‘the institution’ and ‘Briddish media’

I still like him. He just seems so lost & needs a genuine friend to pull him out.

He isn't the oldest son.