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The royal family

Oh Harry you have been played.....

185 replies

lohasmohas · 08/01/2023 09:17

You wrote a book and you didn't have your lawyer go through it to protect you and think of the consequences.

You write a book, and now you might not get a visa to stay in the USA. Meanwhile, Megs is in the USA with your kids ...across the pond. And in the future, if you were to split, your book will condemn you as to how stable you are in a custody battle. Wake up wake up wake up.

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Goosefatroasts · 08/01/2023 10:20

He’s not going to read that. He doesn’t care what Jenny the mumsnetter says!

wordler · 08/01/2023 10:21

StarsSand · 08/01/2023 09:56

What absolute nonsense.

Lots of people take drugs in their youth. The Rolling Stones fly in and out of the US. If Keith Richards is allowed into America, Harry will be fine.

It’s absolutely not nonsense.

For immigrant visas which you need to live in the USA as a resident they are extremely strict about certain things - drug use is one of them.

It's also clear that there is some discretion allowed for VIPs and I there are also legal routes anyone can take to appeal bans etc. Most regular people don’t have the money or resources to do that - obviously not an issue for Prince Harry.

Also you are very vulnerable - in the USA and other countries - if you have children with a foreign national and then have the children establish their main residency in the other country. You will not be allowed to let them move permanently to your home country without the consent of the US parent. So you don’t want to risk a situation where you end up stuck outside the country with a spouse unwilling to being the children to you. The US and international law will be on there side.

wordler · 08/01/2023 10:22

*their

Bestcatmum · 08/01/2023 10:27

if he was a single guy I'd be thinking oh dear his head will be sore when he finally grows up but this guy is a father to two children and he doesn't seem to have stopped to think how this does and will affect them it's all me, me, me every minute of every day.

He has basically denied them any relationship with their UK family and Meghan has denied them any contact with their US family other than her mother. They are basically a little island in California with no family.

He has exposed them all to future ridicule and don't even get me started on the drug stuff. The contents of that book will haunt his kids for years if not their whole lives.

When you are an adult and a father you shut the fuck up and you only think of the needs of your children. My own relationship with my parents is extremely dark but my own DS knows nothing of this and never will and he loves his grandparents. I keep my own mouth shut for his sake. If I was to go about shouting my mouth off and telling everyone what happened I'd have no family at all and neither would he.

I think he is a selfish fool and I have no time for him.

wordler · 08/01/2023 10:27

It’s a catch 22 for regular people with US immigration applications because the absolute worst thing is lying to them. If you are discovered in a material lie at any point in the process it can lead to a permanent ban. But if you admit to certain activities you can be denied a visa.

lohasmohas · 08/01/2023 10:31

I am not being spiteful to him.

The fact is that if there is a custody battle, this book WILL be used against him..in his own words.

Just like ordinary couples who have custody battles, they use each other's whatsapp message against each other.

I am surprised that he had no lawyer to protect him, to go through the manuscript and say NO NO NO to certain things e.g. talking about his "chess pieces ".

He has not got advice, or good people around him to advise him of repercussions.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 08/01/2023 10:31

Theunamedcat · 08/01/2023 09:53

But accurate he has left himself wide open the royal family cannot and will not take on the USA especially as he has been such a dick to them lately he is out of there protection and out of everyone's control he might just face consequences this time (probably won't)

I agree the RF won’t take on the US on his behalf. Unlikely that his visa would be revoked due to his status. However if they were to divorce, custody could be an issue. From the British standpoint, the monarch has custody of the royal minor grandchildren. Idk how that would play out in international law and I don’t think KC would try that angle in the event of a split.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 08/01/2023 10:32

minticecreamisjustok · 08/01/2023 10:00

When he realises what an embarrassment this is, he'll try saying he was tricked into writing this book waah waah

Yes, I thought that very early on. It’ll be the ghost writer made me do it.

Feelallright · 08/01/2023 10:40

Rickandmortified100 · 08/01/2023 10:17

I think it’s you who needs to wake up if you think that he will be denied a visa over this 😂 He’s literally royalty and a millionaire. Laws work differently for people like that.

Except they don’t. Especially in a country based on fairness for all. If they want to make an example of him, they could. I’m not sure what his visa status is at the moment, though. Being royal is everything the US is against, and being a millionaire is very common. He is not unusual at all.

Megan1992xx · 08/01/2023 10:44

lohasmohas · 08/01/2023 09:17

You wrote a book and you didn't have your lawyer go through it to protect you and think of the consequences.

You write a book, and now you might not get a visa to stay in the USA. Meanwhile, Megs is in the USA with your kids ...across the pond. And in the future, if you were to split, your book will condemn you as to how stable you are in a custody battle. Wake up wake up wake up.

Absolutely hit the nail on the head, totally played by Meghan.
I think that Archie and Lilibet will see very little if anything of their father.
Clearly an unfit parent in any custody battle, I am beginning to have some regard for Meghan, she is quite a piece of work.

Sputum · 08/01/2023 10:45

He has exposed them all to future ridicule and don't even get me started on the drug stuff. The contents of that book will haunt his kids for years if not their whole lives.
Agree. It’s bizarre he’s complaining about the damage wrought by his upbringing, he’s not even stopped to think what impact spouting these - let’s face it - petty and embarrassing stories will have on his own children.

queenofarles · 08/01/2023 10:45

our previous Nanny was denied a Visa because she’s taken drugs before , it was complete shock for us knowing that she’s taken 🤯, and I didn’t know at that time that you couldn’t enter the US if you have previously taken drugs ,

but I think Harry must have disclosed that part , and seeing how his passport must be a special passport or diplomatic one , his Visa must be completely different to normal folks ,

Bakeacaketoday73 · 08/01/2023 10:51

Swissmountains · 08/01/2023 09:48

Actually you are right.

A visa can now be denied to him, the US law is very clear about drug taking/use.

Yes by moving to the US in the first place he has severely compromised his access to his children should his marriage dissolve and he wishes to seek support, care and a life back in the UK with his family. He has no other reason to remain in the US, he has no family, friends, work or future in the US beyond his wife.

He is over a barrel and some.

I actually think the "kills" tally is more of a problem for any visa than drug use. If he's an international security risk that's way worse.

thinkfast · 08/01/2023 10:52

This book will have been crawled over by lawyers before publication. Don't talk nonsense.

StarsSand · 08/01/2023 10:53

lohasmohas · 08/01/2023 10:31

I am not being spiteful to him.

The fact is that if there is a custody battle, this book WILL be used against him..in his own words.

Just like ordinary couples who have custody battles, they use each other's whatsapp message against each other.

I am surprised that he had no lawyer to protect him, to go through the manuscript and say NO NO NO to certain things e.g. talking about his "chess pieces ".

He has not got advice, or good people around him to advise him of repercussions.

No one is losing custody because they did drugs a few times when they were young. This is fear mongering nonsense.

Most adults of that generation have tried drugs at one point or another. Barack Obama has disclosed he experimented with drugs when he was young- he was still elected and then re-elected president.

The courts are guided by the best interests of the child. If Harry is a loving and involved Dad- which he really seems to be- then no court would deprive a child of time with their father because he did the odd mushroom or line of coke in his 20s - before the child was even born!

Megan1992xx · 08/01/2023 10:55

I think that the residents of Montecito will force him out.
He has made their neighbourhood number one terrorist target in the world.
It is great to see the woke literally eat themselves.

Megan1992xx · 08/01/2023 10:57

StarsSand · 08/01/2023 10:53

No one is losing custody because they did drugs a few times when they were young. This is fear mongering nonsense.

Most adults of that generation have tried drugs at one point or another. Barack Obama has disclosed he experimented with drugs when he was young- he was still elected and then re-elected president.

The courts are guided by the best interests of the child. If Harry is a loving and involved Dad- which he really seems to be- then no court would deprive a child of time with their father because he did the odd mushroom or line of coke in his 20s - before the child was even born!

The problem is that PH believes taking drugs actually helps an individual see the truth.
What kind of parental message is that?
I think he has zero chance of custody until he clarifies his views on drugs.

Somebatshitteryonhere · 08/01/2023 10:58

I think the likely hood of the us evicting harry as he took drugs 2 decades ago are highly unlikely and of course a lawyer will have reviewed it.

a lawyer isn’t a parent, they aren’t there to review and say if you’re an idiot or something is in bad taste, they simply review if anything is phrased in such a way that there is a risk of dispute. As it’s against his own family and harry knows the terms of any visa, then he’s clearly felt the risk is acceptable and so small as to be irrelevant.

I would suspect he’s right,I really don’t think the fact he took coke or whatever as a teen will stand against him in a custody battle. kids are American and will only know America and schools there, so they will be there till adults.

Orangefir · 08/01/2023 11:02

The problem is Meghan and Harry’s love language is ‘us against the world’ drama.

As their kids grow and become more aware of who their parents are and understand the press, this drama will die down little for their sake and I think at that point Meghan and Harry will question why they are together. This whole California therapy lifestyle is clearly making him unstable and Meghan will tire of having 3 kids to raise. It will be easier on her own

StarsSand · 08/01/2023 11:07

@Megan1992xx

Parents are allowed to believe all kinds of things and still parent. People can believe in ghosts, horoscopes, be Scientologists, think it's immoral to wear jeans, that eating crusts will make your hair curly, that men take precedence over women you name it.

No one takes their children away for their beliefs.

KalvinPhillipsBoots · 08/01/2023 11:09

MandyMotherOfBrian · 08/01/2023 09:30

What’s the relevance to getting a visa? The drugs thing?

Immigration may stop him entering the country because if the drugs usage he admitted too

dworky · 08/01/2023 11:09

Not as much as you have.

wordler · 08/01/2023 11:14

I think Harry like all VIP rich 1 percenters will get special treatment and most likely won’t end up with any immigration issues.

I just want to reiterate these points for the sake of any of us mere mortals reading this who might be traveling or moving to the USA or thinking about marrying a US citizen and applying for a spousal visa.

You have to undergo a medical - there’s a blood test.

Doctor will ask about prior drug use. Also about any issues with alcohol. If you have ever been convicted of drunk driving they can take that as you having an issue with alcohol and they can request a year of sobriety and monthly testing before they will process your visa and let you move.

Many seemingly minor criminal convictions such as shoplifting etc can be seen as a ‘crime of moral turpitude’ which also leads to a ban.

Getting caught in a lie about anything material to your immigration case can trigger removal proceedings or more likely refusal to re-enter if you ever leave the country.

Get stuck outside the country even if your kids are back there with their US parent and your spouse can divorce you, petition for custody etc and you will not be allowed back in to appear in court to defend yourself.

So don’t be on record - especially stuff like social media - admitting to anything illegal or risky if your future plans include US residency. Unless you are super rich and connected of course.

Maximinimalist · 08/01/2023 11:19

Why are you people losing your minds over something that has no impact on you? Harry does not need you to worry about him.

You know we have sunk real low when the British Media is supporting and sympathetic to the Taliban in a bid to criticise Prince Harry.

Megan1992xx · 08/01/2023 11:25

Maximinimalist · 08/01/2023 11:19

Why are you people losing your minds over something that has no impact on you? Harry does not need you to worry about him.

You know we have sunk real low when the British Media is supporting and sympathetic to the Taliban in a bid to criticise Prince Harry.

Because his Taliban comments have made the UK a target for Taliban revenge.
Treating human beings as chess pieces is a psychopathic terrorist view.
Harry is an idiot!!!

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