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Do people intentionally ignore Meghans biracial heritage?

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JamSandle · 08/01/2023 00:32

I'm not disputing that many media swipes at Meghan had a racist tone but im really confused as to how many people keep talking about Meghan as being black. I'm assuming many people saying this are American? I dont know many biracial people, myself included, who refer to themselves as only one race. It seems a very American thing to me.

When people talk about Meghan, especially when negatively, why is it considered racist, completely disregarding that she is half white? And especially when she was first introduced, many people didn't know what ethnicity Meghan was. I think she actually has a look that could be quite global in terms of being from anywhere, but she has quite a Southern European/South American look to me.

Again...im not saying there is no racism towards Meghan. But I find it off that people ignore that Meghan is not black, she is biracial.

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Intheroommadeasy · 08/01/2023 00:34

Agree, she looks Hispanic to me, extremely beautiful but wouldn't have occured to me that she had black heritage tbh

Namechanger355 · 08/01/2023 00:34

I agree - I couldn’t even tell she was mixed race

and mixed race isn’t black

custardbear · 08/01/2023 00:37

She looks white, but saw her in an old film where it was more evident she's mixed race ... either way it makes no difference ... she's still narcissistic-doesn't matter what race she is

StClare101 · 08/01/2023 00:37

I’d watched her in Suits and thought only that she was extremely beautiful with lovely olive skin.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 08/01/2023 00:38

I think it has very different connotations in the USA. Jim Crow laws etc. She may well see things differently because of that. There's a book I read about passing in the 1950s and I don't think she'd have passed.

Oher · 08/01/2023 00:38

There is an attitude in America that anyone with any amount of African dna (well recent African dna, as obviously all human dna comes from Africa) is black. To be white you must be 100% white, if you’re 99% white and 1% black then America thinks you’re black. I find this attitude very racist, with nasty overtones of pure/impure.

And yes re Meghan it is odd seeing her described so often as black, given she’s so clearly not black, but 🤷‍♀️ it seems taboo to mention it so I expect this thread will go sour fast.

Oher · 08/01/2023 00:39

StClare101 · 08/01/2023 00:37

I’d watched her in Suits and thought only that she was extremely beautiful with lovely olive skin.

She was amazing in Suits.

percypal · 08/01/2023 00:40

I’m sure she referred to herself as black in the Netflix show.

I absolutely did not realise she was mixed race until it was pointed out.

JamSandle · 08/01/2023 00:40

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 08/01/2023 00:38

I think it has very different connotations in the USA. Jim Crow laws etc. She may well see things differently because of that. There's a book I read about passing in the 1950s and I don't think she'd have passed.

I understand this. I definitely think it's a very American mindset. You can't seem to be both in America or acknowledge both there. It seems very 'in a box.' But my experience in the UK is less like this so I find it weird that we're adopting that particular Americanism. I suppose she is American so that is the culture she was raised in and knows. But that doesn't mean that is everyone's understanding of ethnicity and race.

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steff13 · 08/01/2023 00:42

Oher · 08/01/2023 00:38

There is an attitude in America that anyone with any amount of African dna (well recent African dna, as obviously all human dna comes from Africa) is black. To be white you must be 100% white, if you’re 99% white and 1% black then America thinks you’re black. I find this attitude very racist, with nasty overtones of pure/impure.

And yes re Meghan it is odd seeing her described so often as black, given she’s so clearly not black, but 🤷‍♀️ it seems taboo to mention it so I expect this thread will go sour fast.

This isn't an attitude It was a law called the one drop rule. It doesn't apply to any modern laws.

steff13 · 08/01/2023 00:43

JamSandle · 08/01/2023 00:40

I understand this. I definitely think it's a very American mindset. You can't seem to be both in America or acknowledge both there. It seems very 'in a box.' But my experience in the UK is less like this so I find it weird that we're adopting that particular Americanism. I suppose she is American so that is the culture she was raised in and knows. But that doesn't mean that is everyone's understanding of ethnicity and race.

Of course you can be considered biracial in America. Generally people identify themselves however they choose and that's what everyone else goes with. And that's likely a throwback from the aforementioned one-drop rule.

JamSandle · 08/01/2023 00:44

I remember Meghan being called the first black princess. Likewise Obama the first black president. But this isn't true. They are biracial. Seems to do a disservice to both biracial and black people here. As if biracial people are just tacked onto a side for different motivations.

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BethDuttonsTwin · 08/01/2023 00:44

Oher · 08/01/2023 00:38

There is an attitude in America that anyone with any amount of African dna (well recent African dna, as obviously all human dna comes from Africa) is black. To be white you must be 100% white, if you’re 99% white and 1% black then America thinks you’re black. I find this attitude very racist, with nasty overtones of pure/impure.

And yes re Meghan it is odd seeing her described so often as black, given she’s so clearly not black, but 🤷‍♀️ it seems taboo to mention it so I expect this thread will go sour fast.

Are these contemporary attitudes though. I know that historically this was the case but do the majority believe this now?

JamSandle · 08/01/2023 00:44

steff13 · 08/01/2023 00:43

Of course you can be considered biracial in America. Generally people identify themselves however they choose and that's what everyone else goes with. And that's likely a throwback from the aforementioned one-drop rule.

Identifying as you 'choose' is also weird to me.

I am half white half black. I have features of both, genes of both.

I cant identify as one or the other. It isn't a choice. I AM both.

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SpinningFloppa · 08/01/2023 00:46

Hmm I’m mixed race and so are my siblings and they all refer to themselves as black most mixed race people I know consider themselves as black and I’m in the U.K. (London)

JamSandle · 08/01/2023 00:47

SpinningFloppa · 08/01/2023 00:46

Hmm I’m mixed race and so are my siblings and they all refer to themselves as black most mixed race people I know consider themselves as black and I’m in the U.K. (London)

Has this always been the case or is this more recent? And i hope I'm not offending, but why do you not relate to the other side of your genes? I'm assuming people who relate more to one than the other feel more connected or attuned to one side?

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PastMyBestBeforeDate · 08/01/2023 00:48

JamSandle · 08/01/2023 00:40

I understand this. I definitely think it's a very American mindset. You can't seem to be both in America or acknowledge both there. It seems very 'in a box.' But my experience in the UK is less like this so I find it weird that we're adopting that particular Americanism. I suppose she is American so that is the culture she was raised in and knows. But that doesn't mean that is everyone's understanding of ethnicity and race.

Absolutely agreed. We don't have that history of segregation and although there's undoubtedly institutional racism going on, we don't have the same ideas about race as the USA.

Bard6817 · 08/01/2023 00:48

She’s appears as white as any white person who has access to a sun bed or the sun.

Her mum is a woman of colour.

Maybe M identifies as black. Personally, don’t see it, don’t care, couldn’t care less tbh. She’s just toxic and he just needs therapy.

JamSandle · 08/01/2023 00:48

Oher · 08/01/2023 00:38

There is an attitude in America that anyone with any amount of African dna (well recent African dna, as obviously all human dna comes from Africa) is black. To be white you must be 100% white, if you’re 99% white and 1% black then America thinks you’re black. I find this attitude very racist, with nasty overtones of pure/impure.

And yes re Meghan it is odd seeing her described so often as black, given she’s so clearly not black, but 🤷‍♀️ it seems taboo to mention it so I expect this thread will go sour fast.

I hope not as I'm not trying to upset anyone. But if it does go sour, well it is the Internet so im not surprised!

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milti · 08/01/2023 00:49

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Do people intentionally ignore Meghans biracial heritage?
Mamaneedsadrink · 08/01/2023 00:49

I think it might be an American thing, Kamala Harris (?) Is often referred to as black, even though she's half Indian. Can't say for certain as I'm not American of course

JamSandle · 08/01/2023 00:51

Mamaneedsadrink · 08/01/2023 00:49

I think it might be an American thing, Kamala Harris (?) Is often referred to as black, even though she's half Indian. Can't say for certain as I'm not American of course

I just find it so strange. As if the other half of your identity doesn't exist. Not sure if some people are raised to the exclusion of one side of who they are and so connect more to another. And of course it can be impacted by what people 'see' you as which can differ based on where you are and who you're around.

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GoAgainstNicki · 08/01/2023 00:51

Interesting. I’m black and every single mixed race person that I know, refers to themselves as black. There’s often this conversation on black twitter that mixed race people aren’t black (as they are both black and white). Whenever a mixed race person comes into the conversation, they often argue that they are indeed black and no one can tell them how to view themselves. There’s also the argument that ‘well my white side basically see me as black anyway’ etc.

I agree with you. As a mixed race person you are not JUST black, the same way that you’re not JUST white. I do understand being able to relate to one side more than the other due to upbringings or your surroundings but the argument that MM is a black woman makes no sense. She’s literally white passing. I would have never guessed that her mum is black

Bagsundermyeyestoday · 08/01/2023 00:53

She is amazingly stunning. She definitely doesn't look white, she looks 'something' ... I initially thought she was Mediterranean or maybe Latino

NestingSparrow · 08/01/2023 00:53

Don’t Americans whose ancestors came from Ireland many generations ago, still refer to themselves as Irish?