Page 11 | I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

Squabbledee · 2023-01-06T23:04:52+00:00

Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

BelenaConhamHarter · 07/01/2023 09:36

@Streamside - exactly this. Just a matter of time.

Maytodecember · 07/01/2023 09:37

I knew next to nothing about grief and bereavement when Diana died ( since experienced sudden death so have a lot more knowledge now) but I said on the day that putting 2 lads who’d just lost their mum in a car and driving them to a church service where she wasn’t even mentioned was disastrous.
They would both have been in severe shock, which probably lasted long after her funeral. Both Harry and William were treated badly by their family and it’s had long lasting consequences. The chain of errors he’s made and making ( Nazi uniform, drugs, Oprah, the book ) are typical of someone with unresolved grief issues. I really think if he and Meghan split he wouldn’t survive.

NottanOtter · 07/01/2023 09:39

Lanesdown · 07/01/2023 09:17

Could this "leak" of the Spanish version be the most elaborate joke ever!!! Harry and his PR behind the whole "leak" and it's not actually the real book, the real one comes out Tueday. I could see him pulling such a stunt to make fools out of the international press who he hates with a passion. Getting one over on them would be a goal of his I would think. Although how you turn the truly awful Taliban comment as a staged joke I guess would make it even worse if possible!! The contents are just so ridiculous a hoax bizarrely makes more sense!!!

Bob Holness and his Baker St saxophone solo thinks this is a high risk strategy.

CoffeandTiaMaria · 07/01/2023 09:40

I think Meghan’s as culpable as him, she must have prod-read the book?
Judging by her being conspicuous by her not backing him, I reckon she loaded the gun and he’s fired it.
I cannot believe that any caring wife would allow their husband to do what Harry’s doing.
It’s utterly shameful and irreversible.

LizzieSiddal · 07/01/2023 09:40

Blaming Meghan shows a complete lack of understanding of PH

I've thought for years that he’s a very angry person, he lost his mum and then two girlfriends who he very much loved, he’s on record in interviews as saying he dislikes the media and wants to move somewhere like Africa!

I do think the Palace/family and PH and Meghan are all at fault for various reasons, for example if Charles had agreed to pay for them(he is a billionaire after all) they wouldn’t have had to sell their souls to the media. To blame it all on Meghan is rediculous.

CoffeandTiaMaria · 07/01/2023 09:40

Proof read Ffs

maranella · 07/01/2023 09:41

notangelinajolie · Today 01:17
No sympathy for PH. My sympathy lies with his kids and Meghan (much as I dislike her (a lot)), his family back in the UK, his serving comrades in the armed forces and the good people of the UK. Non of whom deserve the inevitable repercussions of the Taliban and their extremist supporters.
The sheer stupidity of this man renders me speechless. What kind of a man is he ? He has literally drawn a target on his kids backs?
Meghan - you need to LTB

DomesticShortHair · Today 01:21
I feel sorry for his private security team, who’s chances of going home at the end of each day to see their families have just become less. I feel sorry for any innocent bystanders who, if an attack on H occurs, just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, all because of his ill-judged and reckless comments.

100% agree with both of these comments (which handily came one after the other). PH is a loose cannon, clearly always was, and has been protected his whole life by the palace machine he so despises. Now we can all see why the various palace comms teams didn't do his bidding, didn't put out the press releases he demanded, and didn't try to justify his every crass action and comment, because to do so is to invite ridicule.

He couldn't have come up with a better justification for 'never complain and never explain' than this cringe-worthy and frankly dangerous book if he tried. I'm mortified for him and the many journalists gleefully poring over every embarrassing detail clearly are too. Who talks about losing their virginity in a field FFS? And a pathetic scuffle with his DB that resulted in his necklace being broken and him falling in the dog's bowl? It's an absolute cringe-fest.

Redblanky · 07/01/2023 09:41

LizzieSiddal · 07/01/2023 09:40

Blaming Meghan shows a complete lack of understanding of PH

I've thought for years that he’s a very angry person, he lost his mum and then two girlfriends who he very much loved, he’s on record in interviews as saying he dislikes the media and wants to move somewhere like Africa!

I do think the Palace/family and PH and Meghan are all at fault for various reasons, for example if Charles had agreed to pay for them(he is a billionaire after all) they wouldn’t have had to sell their souls to the media. To blame it all on Meghan is rediculous.

Surely he could move to Africa if that's what he wants?

Twentypast · 07/01/2023 09:42

LizzieSiddal · 07/01/2023 09:40

Blaming Meghan shows a complete lack of understanding of PH

I've thought for years that he’s a very angry person, he lost his mum and then two girlfriends who he very much loved, he’s on record in interviews as saying he dislikes the media and wants to move somewhere like Africa!

I do think the Palace/family and PH and Meghan are all at fault for various reasons, for example if Charles had agreed to pay for them(he is a billionaire after all) they wouldn’t have had to sell their souls to the media. To blame it all on Meghan is rediculous.

Why should Charles have had to pay for them?

Verbena17 · 07/01/2023 09:42

daisychain01 · 07/01/2023 08:20

I just want to debunk the myth that there isn't already plenty of support and resource available for the UK Armed Forces. There is!

The fact PH hasn't chosen to go down the route of trauma support may be because he hasn't chosen to, or doesn't recognise that he may have undiagnosed PTSD due to his time in the Armed Forces, or hasn't joined the dots with all the other stuff going on in his life (death of his mother, lack of timely support from his father, etc). His life had been incredibly complex and he hasn't had the appropriate guidance, but let's not conflate that with lack of support available for Army Veterans, which is available if people want to avail themselves of it.

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Sadly, even with the correct support available, it’s not easy to make yourself go.
The self-induced stigma of seeking out help isn’t a myth and for military personnel this is amplified due to the nature of the type of person you have to be to suck it up and crack on.

As a former military wife who believes their own veteran DH could have benefitted from support following multiple op tours, I also know there is no way in hell he would do that. 20+ years of being conditioned into the military way of life and being taught you should shut it all up in separate boxes in your head, does not always make it easy to feel open and access support.

CoffeandTiaMaria · 07/01/2023 09:43

Maytodecember · 07/01/2023 09:37

I knew next to nothing about grief and bereavement when Diana died ( since experienced sudden death so have a lot more knowledge now) but I said on the day that putting 2 lads who’d just lost their mum in a car and driving them to a church service where she wasn’t even mentioned was disastrous.
They would both have been in severe shock, which probably lasted long after her funeral. Both Harry and William were treated badly by their family and it’s had long lasting consequences. The chain of errors he’s made and making ( Nazi uniform, drugs, Oprah, the book ) are typical of someone with unresolved grief issues. I really think if he and Meghan split he wouldn’t survive.

Harry was the one who wanted to walk behind Diana’s coffin, not William.
TheDofE said he’s walk with them. I don’t believe either were forced to do so.

AngelinaFibres · 07/01/2023 09:43

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 07/01/2023 09:30

She would have known what's in the book. How can she misjudge it this badly?

All the trivial pettiness, the downright tawdry feel to some of the shared anecdotes, the grubbiness of it. She likes to see herself as a broadminded, open, feminist person. And this book? It's the exact opposite. How can she be associated with it?

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You are right. It's a huge bucket of self absorbed sludge. She wants to walk onto the stage at the UN and speak about important issues ( and generally herself) whilst wearing a power blouse and all anyone will be thinking is about crap from her husband's book.

Verbena17 · 07/01/2023 09:43

Lanesdown · 07/01/2023 09:17

Could this "leak" of the Spanish version be the most elaborate joke ever!!! Harry and his PR behind the whole "leak" and it's not actually the real book, the real one comes out Tueday. I could see him pulling such a stunt to make fools out of the international press who he hates with a passion. Getting one over on them would be a goal of his I would think. Although how you turn the truly awful Taliban comment as a staged joke I guess would make it even worse if possible!! The contents are just so ridiculous a hoax bizarrely makes more sense!!!

Love it - makes far more sense than the current situation at least!

Tulipomania · 07/01/2023 09:43

If their marriage survives the backlash it will be an extraordinary testament to the strength of their relationship.

midsomermurderess · 07/01/2023 09:44

NoisyWitness · 07/01/2023 01:00

You wanted to make another thread about him so made out you’re concerned for his mental health. 😂

But she’s ‘genuinely’ concerned.

Barbie222 · 07/01/2023 09:44

I cannot believe that any caring wife would allow their husband to do what Harry’s doing.
It’s utterly shameful and irreversible.

I agree. It's really hard to think she has his best interests at heart.

venus7 · 07/01/2023 09:45

Funkyblues101 · 07/01/2023 01:26

His mental health? He's shown himself to be incredibly thick, spoilt, malicious and spiteful as well as turning himself into a laughing stock. Mental health has nothing to do with it, just good (bad, in this case) old fashioned character.
He probably doesn't even realise how embarrassed he should be.
He has also shown himself to be totally unconcerned with anyone else's mental health, just his own.
Save your sympathy for someone who deserves it.

Exactly this.

Fieldfly · 07/01/2023 09:45

Angelina - off topic but I love the term power blouse! I want one!

Redblanky · 07/01/2023 09:45

Tulipomania · 07/01/2023 09:43

If their marriage survives the backlash it will be an extraordinary testament to the strength of their relationship.

Won't they just do the Clinton/Beckham thing anyway? The marriage is their living, it won't be what we'd recognise as a marriage, but I doubt they'll split.

Mezmer · 07/01/2023 09:46

Fieldfly · 07/01/2023 09:18

Harry didn’t just lose his mother at a young age, he lost a mother who he hadn’t seen for a month because she’d been on various holidays while he’d been at Balmoral. The last phone call he had with her, apparently, was her telling him she would see him a day later than expected. Reconciling his picture of her as the perfect mother whilst she chose not to spend the summer holidays with him must have added an extra layer of distress. He has created an image of Diana as the perfect mother and now seems to see Meghan as almost the same person, very troubling.

Yes this. And also Doria the perfect role model who took off from Meghan’s life from a young age to do god knows what.

now I know circumstances are different, but these we both women from the opposite ends of the social and geographical chart and both saw fit to put their own needs first.

speaking as a mother you would have had to physically prize my kids away from me to keep me from them and I had severe postnatal depression, marriage and money problems when they were small. Like most mothers my needs and wants had to come last and now I am reaping the benefits of happy kids and a stable and loving family… thanks to the sacrifices I made.

am I judging Diana and Doria? Yes I am. Sorry if that offends anyone.

Maireas · 07/01/2023 09:48

Redblanky · 07/01/2023 09:45

Won't they just do the Clinton/Beckham thing anyway? The marriage is their living, it won't be what we'd recognise as a marriage, but I doubt they'll split.

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Exactly. Celebrity marriages often continue if it's in the interest of the brand. Nothing to do with personal relationships.

AngelinaFibres · 07/01/2023 09:49

CoffeandTiaMaria · 07/01/2023 09:40

I think Meghan’s as culpable as him, she must have prod-read the book?
Judging by her being conspicuous by her not backing him, I reckon she loaded the gun and he’s fired it.
I cannot believe that any caring wife would allow their husband to do what Harry’s doing.
It’s utterly shameful and irreversible.

It would probably have been better if he had written it as part of his therapy and then had a private ceremony, just her and him (and their therapists) were he set fire to it and let it all go .Sadly he has published millions of copies of it so we can all share in the tawdry horror.

abs12 · 07/01/2023 09:50

FlairBand · 07/01/2023 00:00

Personally I think it’s outrageous that MM has let him, even encouraged him, to go wrote this stuff and go ahead with publishing it.

He’s clearly unwell, in so many ways. She will have studied every word of this text in detail and told him it was a good idea. What was she thinking, if we all need people around us to protect us from bad decisions our partners should be the first. She’s the one person who could have stopped him.

the fact that her mouthpiece Scobie has had virtually nothing to say on the backlash suggests that there is serious upset in the Sussex camp about how the book has been received.

I’ve said it before and will again I think he’s been exploited, by Netflix, by the publishers, and by his wife… who is the one person he thinks has his back but let all this happen.

Spot on.

caringcarer · 07/01/2023 09:51

H&M both have serious mental health issues. Meghan sings to seals and Harry believes she is somehow magic. She kneels in front of Diana's grave and asks for guidance. He thinks he was only pretending to be best man at William's wedding. We all saw him go down isle with William, hand over rings, and walk back down isle with chief bridesmaid Pippa. Harry thinks Diana was involved in him getting Meghan pregnant. They need certifying. I feel sorry for their kids. Harry has put them all in danger of suicide bombing attack with his boasting of killing 25 Taliban. The army have turned against Harry too accusing him of betrayal. H&M both have persecution complex and believe themselves to be victims.

AngelinaFibres · 07/01/2023 09:51

Fieldfly · 07/01/2023 09:45

Angelina - off topic but I love the term power blouse! I want one!

I bet we all have something in our wardrobes for those days when you want to say " Do not mess the fuck with me " 😀