Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

Your appraisal be for how well Queen Elizabeth II defended the faith?

184 replies

Inspecto · 17/12/2022 13:34

The upcoming coronation is reminding everyone that the monarchy is tasked with defending the faith. New book released ahead of the coronation too: Defenders of the Faith

What would your appraisal be for how well Queen Elizabeth II defended the faith?

Apparently, she had a great personal faith.
But her ‘never complain and never explain’ line was a poor strategy for defending the faith. The faith numbers demonstrably dropped during her 70-year reign. And I don’t yet see any evidence of her doing anything meaningful to defend the faith from the fall in numbers.

It matters because the Crown is the symbol of justice. People need faith in justice. That means a monarch must be able to complain about injustice and explain the complexity of justice. Fair?

OP posts:
Inspecto · 25/12/2022 22:43

Serenster · 25/12/2022 22:15

What is the most famous crown, which is corona in latin, in the world?

The papal tiara, surely? Worn by Popes from the 8th century to the 1960s.

Also, unfortunately for your theory, the term coronavirus (to describe a virus with protein spikes that come out from its nucleus) was first coined in the 1960s, and has since been applied to a number of variants of the virus that cause upper respiratory tract infections, such as SARS, MERS and Covid 19 (45 species of virus in all have been classified as corona viruses).

The papal tiara, surely? Worn by Popes from the 8th century to the 1960s.

Possible. But that is not the first crown that comes to mind. When Netflix released the show, ‘The Crown’, everyone knew which crown and royal family it meant.

The Most Famous Royal Families: British Royal Family. Queen Elizabeth II.

“Also, unfortunately for your theory, the term coronavirus (to describe a virus with protein spikes that come out from its nucleus) was first coined in the 1960s, and has since been applied to a number of variants of the virus that cause upper respiratory tract infections, such as SARS, MERS and Covid 19 (45 species of virus in all have been classified as corona viruses).”

But why did that one, of all the different viruses out there that could have gone pandemic, manage to spread to pandemic status?

In terms of my theory, if the pandemic was god-related then it seems that corona may have been used because of its name. The name corona has meaningful connotations to the crown.

It could have been random and a coincidence. But something was in the air in 2020 - and it was global too, which added god-related vibes. It was not just the pandemic called corona, meaning crown, there were a list of things. Such as The Biblical locust plagues of 2020

www.bbc.com/future/article/20200806-the-biblical-east-african-locust-plagues-of-2020

OP posts:
toffeecrisps · 25/12/2022 23:48

hristians are encouraged “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you”; I was told the rationale for this is that the enemies and persecutors (and the apathetic) are most likely to trigger God’s wrath. God has emotions too. God’s wrath means he’s not apathetic. How can anyone, god or human, get angry with people they don’t care about?

Aye I get angry with people I care about. Don't bloody kill them though.

What is the most famous crown, which is corona in latin, in the world?

IDK depends who you ask. I'd imagine outside the West or even outside the UK they don't much give a shit about the British royal family but apparently you think netflix having a program about that proves yourpoint
🙄 so yeah god decided to kill millions of people in dozens of countries because of the actions or lack thereof of one woman, and you think this god is loving and worth worshiping jfc that is completely twisted

but whatever you're probably a troll going by the escalation of batshittery. trolling mn on Christmas day, god killed my gran because he didn't like the Queen, what a petty shit he sounds like.

Inspecto · 26/12/2022 08:50

@toffeecrisps Christmas Day is a religious holiday and god themed, so it’s appropriate to discuss a god-related matters that is concerning.

I am sorry about your loss.

Everyone, everywhere, was impacted by the pandemic. There was a lot of loss and it was a really hard time.

You don’t have to worship god to be aware that god is very powerful and might be trying to get everyone’s attention. The bible shows that god can send plagues, so it’s not out of the question that the pandemic may have been god-related. But I don’t know why god would do that, so that’s why I’m questioning.

I explained why I’ve come to the theory god is trying to tell us he’s concerned about something to do with the crown; the pandemic was called corona, which means crown (the virus was called corona because it appeared to look like a crown). I used the Netflix show to add support to the theory because ‘The Crown’ is global; the show has international appeal reaching people outside the UK and the West - and everyone knows who the show is about. But a long time before Netflix, the British crown was the world’s most famous - the empire on which the sun never sets.

We don’t know everything about the late Queen or the crown she claimed. But it’s likely god knows more things than us. And something has, I believe, bothered god enough to get everyone’s attention.

God Is Not Nice: Rejecting Pop Culture Theology and Discovering the God Worth Living For This book “reintroduces Christians to the true God―not the polite, easygoing, divine therapist who doesn’t ask much of us, but the Almighty God who is unpredictable, awe-inspiring, and demands our entire lives.
Stripping away the niceties with a sling blade, Lehner shows that God is more strange and beautiful than we imagine, and wants to know and transform us in the most intimate way. Lehner challenges the God of popular culture and many of our churches and reintroduces the God of the Bible and traditional Christianity. As Lehner writes in the book’s introduction, "We all need the vaccine of the true transforming and mysterious character of God: The God who shows up in burning bushes, speaks through donkeys, drives demons into pigs, throws Saul from his horse, and appears to St. Francis. It’s only this God who has the power to challenge us, change us, and make our lives dangerous." This book is not safe. It may startle and annoy many people―including those who purport to teach and preach the Gospel, but are missing it, according to Lehner. God Is Not Nice intends to overthrow all of our popular misconceptions about God, inviting us to ask deeper questions about the nature of our lives and our relationship with him.

OP posts:
ZoeCM · 26/12/2022 13:11

Christmas Day is a religious holiday and god themed, so it’s appropriate to discuss a god-related matters that is concerning.

OP, it's been pointed out already on this thread that Christmas was originally a pagan festival that Christians hijacked. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible to suggest Jesus was born on 25 Dec. The Bible says "thou shalt not steal", so Christians really shouldn't celebrate Christmas 😁

Inspecto · 26/12/2022 15:54

ZoeCM · 26/12/2022 13:11

Christmas Day is a religious holiday and god themed, so it’s appropriate to discuss a god-related matters that is concerning.

OP, it's been pointed out already on this thread that Christmas was originally a pagan festival that Christians hijacked. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible to suggest Jesus was born on 25 Dec. The Bible says "thou shalt not steal", so Christians really shouldn't celebrate Christmas 😁

Petty.

The calendars diarise Christmas Day as a religious holiday because the official religion is still (just about) Christianity; this is why we all get the day off work (unless it’s emergency services or clergy etc). And it’s not stealing (that’s stupid) when it’s about the Christian spirit of giving everyone a holiday, religious or not.

But if you feel so strongly then campaign to change the calendars to deny everyone the one day guaranteed off from it all every year.

OP posts:
user1492757084 · 03/01/2023 15:34

The Queen defended the faith by living it. She was a true example of a woman of great faith. She often deferred to the higher being, God. I beleieve she was in communion with God like many others and that she believed that we are all equal in the sight of God. I loved the Queen's Christmas messages. They came from a place of great faith and knowledge of the bible. Her whole life she heard sermons by very learned bishops etc and she had the added benefit of seeing life in many communities, hospitals, cultures etc. The Queen respected people of God's creation everywhere and she was never too proud to be seen to go to church, hear the gospel and sing hymns etc. . To hold her own faith so dear gave the Queen a window into the understanding of other people of faith, and of other faiths. The Queen was a servant of God and to the people. She was strong, visible and a great leader of Christianity.

JustWhattheDoctorOrdered · 03/01/2023 15:48

@user1492757084 there’s not much point sharing your reasonable opinions about the Queen. The OP won’t engage with facts, or emotions either. She believes that covid was visited on human beings because God needed to punish the Queen for not defending the faith actively enough. The proof of this is that corona virus= problem with the crown

Inspecto · 03/01/2023 16:46

user1492757084 · 03/01/2023 15:34

The Queen defended the faith by living it. She was a true example of a woman of great faith. She often deferred to the higher being, God. I beleieve she was in communion with God like many others and that she believed that we are all equal in the sight of God. I loved the Queen's Christmas messages. They came from a place of great faith and knowledge of the bible. Her whole life she heard sermons by very learned bishops etc and she had the added benefit of seeing life in many communities, hospitals, cultures etc. The Queen respected people of God's creation everywhere and she was never too proud to be seen to go to church, hear the gospel and sing hymns etc. . To hold her own faith so dear gave the Queen a window into the understanding of other people of faith, and of other faiths. The Queen was a servant of God and to the people. She was strong, visible and a great leader of Christianity.

She often deferred to the higher being, God.

I can see that being true. But it’s still laissez-faire.

I beleieve she was in communion with God like many others and that she believed that we are all equal in the sight of God.

I read a bit more on the Queen and seen a few documentaries. I do think she had a strong faith of her own. I’d be fascinated to know what her communion with God was like. Maybe it will be in her diaries?

I loved the Queen's Christmas messages.

I did miss a Christmas message from her this year because it was a reminder that she has really gone and we are in a new era.

New era, new year, but same old us.

OP posts:
Inspecto · 03/01/2023 17:25

JustWhattheDoctorOrdered · 03/01/2023 15:48

@user1492757084 there’s not much point sharing your reasonable opinions about the Queen. The OP won’t engage with facts, or emotions either. She believes that covid was visited on human beings because God needed to punish the Queen for not defending the faith actively enough. The proof of this is that corona virus= problem with the crown

If it’s true, I think it’s more complicated than the overly simplistic way you’ve represented it there.

We don’t know why. I’m just wondering. Being curious. How do you think discoveries and ideas happen if people are not brave enough to be curious and entertain divergent thinking?

The idea was based on the ‘corona’ word.

Language is critical to how God works sometimes. Language is a miracle for humans. Example: ”In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.” John 1:1

If the word ‘corona’ did not mean crown (we all know the crown represents god) and the corona also had a massive impact to reach worldwide pandemic status, then I would never have thought of the idea in the first place. I don’t think of any other viruses like that because there’s no indication of them being god-related. Crown, to me, indicates god.

And it’s not like there are no red flags highlighted about the crown.

King Charles' coronation could be invalidated because of affair, royal author says Royal biographer Anthony Holden claimed that King Charles' confession of adultery could spark a "constitutional crisis", and noted that the Church of England has never crowned a divorced man as King

Experts play down Coronation crisis fears after royal author Anthony Holden suggested King Charles's ceremony could be invalidated because of his 1994 affair confession Church of England has never crowned a divorced man as King, let alone one who has publicly confessed to adultery – with the relevant woman expecting to be crowned Queen Consort.

Exodus 20:14 ‘You must not commit adultery.’ 7th of the Ten Commandments.

There might be something to it. All the world’s a stage for the coronation…

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page