Was racism present in the royal family BEFORE Meghan?!

[Inspecto]

Was racism present in the British Royal Family before Meghan arrived on the scene?

It matters to know the history because we all know how the royal family like to hold on to their traditions and are generally not fond of change.

The fact we think Meghan is the first person of colour in the royal family’s history goes some way to demonstrate the point… because she is not the first non-white.

The Little-Known History Behind the People of Color Who Joined the Royal Family Long Before Meghan (time.com/5946375/people-of-color-royal-family-victorian-era/)

The royals and racism — before Meghan and Harry

Buckingham Palace banned ethnic minorities from office roles, papers reveal

Why do you think the British Royal Family press teams might want us to forget that true history? Shouldn’t it instead be celebrated that there were people of colour in the royal family before Meghan? Why is the history hidden? What happened to the non-white royals who came and went before Meghan?

I’ve never read so much sanctimonious clap trap. You do realise that Queen Victoria died over 120 years ago and that the current royals are different people living in an entirely different era.

You do also realise that your forefathers more than likely held views that would horrify you and generally be considered unacceptable today.

Not only that but the royals apparently welcomed Meghan and gave her and Harry a bells and whistles wedding, with the now King walking her down the aisle. The only hint of racism has been the vague claim that an unnamed royal speculated on their child’s skin colour.

That does not make the whole royal family racist.

You do realise that Queen Victoria died over 120 years ago and that the current royals are different people living in an entirely different era.

As I said in my OP, the royal family also cling to their traditional ways. I’m trying to establish if racism is part of that tradition or not.

Current royals don’t acknowledge the full inclusive history. Are they complicit in forgetting that there were non Caucasian royals?

In any event, as @beatrice14 has pointed out too, Queen V telling the wife of one of the non Caucasian royals not to have children has had consequences in this entirely different era because the family line is extinct. That, in my view, was evil.

You do also realise that your forefathers more than likely held views that would horrify you and generally be considered unacceptable today.

Based on what evidence exactly?! Or is it just assumptions?!

Not only that but the royals apparently welcomed Meghan and gave her and Harry a bells and whistles wedding, with the now King walking her down the aisle. The only hint of racism has been the vague claim that an unnamed royal speculated on their child’s skin colour.

That does not make the whole royal family racist.

Point taken there. So why do both Harry and Meghan feel there’s racism in general?

Point taken there. So why do both Harry and Meghan feel there’s racism in general?

Because rasism sells their story and plays into their fan base also 💲💲💲💲

Few counter issues with that claim.

1. Racism also does not sell their story because it’s a very serious accusation to make and they risk people not believing them (and their story).

2. Plays to their fan base: what fan base is that exactly? There were people who were fans and have been put off by what they view as ‘complaining behaviour’. Accusations of racism gets peoples’ backs up because it is such a serious claim to make.

3. It’s very cynical to dismiss accusations of any form of discrimination as ‘they’re doing it for money’ or ‘their fan base’. Why is it not possible for racism to have occurred?

4. If there is a history of racism in the British royal family then it’s unlikely to have ever been addressed properly before because the family cling to traditions. Why is it not possible that Meghan noticed things that others didn’t pick up as potentially racist before?

5. I don’t understand why Harry would sell his own family out for that?!

All a bit baffling tbh.

Racism also does not sell their story because it’s a very serious accusation to make and they risk people not believing them (and their story).

😂Did you seriously write this, after all their lies on opera and now on netflix, do you really think they care who belives them.

Plays to their fan base: what fan base is that exactly? There were people who were fans and have been put off by what they view as ‘complaining behaviour’. Accusations of racism gets peoples’ backs up because it is such a serious claim to make.

All their sussex squad fans and american fan base where they intend to try to make their money and lives obviously, they have trashed their UK links in the most amazing way. After all Hasbeen has his book and another sell all interview to make in america.

It’s very cynical to dismiss accusations of any form of discrimination as ‘they’re doing it for money’ or ‘their fan base’. Why is it not possible for racism to have occurred?

Thats your opinion, as they say opinions may vary 😂. So if there not doing it for money why are they taking nearly 88 milion for selling themselfs and their children.

If there is a history of racism in the British royal family then it’s unlikely to have ever been addressed properly before because the family cling to traditions. Why is it not possible that Meghan noticed things that others didn’t pick up as potentially racist before?

There is your word "IF", in the UK you are innocent until proven guilty Or are you going to go back through all the past 100/200 years to look for any form of rasism, if so then pretty much every family on the planet is guitly of crimes at some point 🙄

I don’t understand why Harry would sell his own family out for that?!

If you can see it then sorry I cant help you by now. But ill give you a hint for your lack of understanding "Willful Blindness"

@DuchessDandelion I was beginning to wonder if this thread had hope of intelligence until I read your comment. Well said.

@rumship People with “wilful blindness” do not ask questions. I am asking questions because things do not add up… on both sides.

Inspecto, I hope that you would be equally keen to postulate that Catherine and Lina's relationship was maternal, not romantic/sexual, if Lina had been male. Bamba was only 2 years older than Catherine - would you put her desire for a suitor down to seeking a father figure?

Bamba moved to her father’s former homeland, Lahore, and that is where she sought out suitors. So, yes, it’s possible she was seeking a father figure too.

The loss of their parents clearly impacted the children.

And you’ve got a special gift to discern intelligence?!

Honestly, everyone commenting has intelligence. How insulting (and presumptuous) to suggest others on this thread don’t have intelligence.

Sorry I missed this from earlier.

But what might be unique to the British Royal Family is that their crown is made up of jewels from other races and ethnicities. Why not remember where the crown jewel collection comes from and how?

If it was all legal and sound then there’s nothing to hide.

That was so utterly cringe, the way Harry referred to a Serviceman in a most dismissive was as {That racist slur}.
That, and the Hitler getup.

He was also {allegedly} very rude to a French employee at a bar near Highgrove.
So he's hardly a paragon of virtue himself.

Current royals don’t acknowledge the full inclusive history. Are they complicit in forgetting that there were non Caucasian royals?

I think the royal family is well aware of non Caucasian royals - many of them attended Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral and were/are personal friends: Abdullah II of Jordon, King of Tonga, Sultan of Oman, Emir of Qatar…to name but a few.

I am staggered by your ignorance.

I am staggered by how you’ve misinterpreted and misrepresented that…

If you followed this thread and read both the OP and what you’ve quoted in bold there, the key word is history. How on god’s good earth can the historical non Caucasian royals have attended Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral?

The Duleep Singh family, for example, certainly could not attend because Queen Victoria was behind making their family extinct. Again, that was not an evil tactic and likely to bite back in a karmic way.

The current royals seem to want to wear the non Caucasian Duleep Singh family’s crown jewels whilst forgetting who they were, what they stood for and their history. If you don’t know which jewel that is then you should be staggered by your own ignorance.

Again, that was* an evil tactic and likely to bite back in a karmic way.

To clarify, I can not see how anyone can say claim that tactic to make that royal family extinct was was not evil.

^Again (and again because the formatting appears odd when I corrected), that was an evil tactic and likely to bite back in a karmic way. I can’t see how anyone can claim it was not evil.

The answer to the OP is yes of course , why would anyone think any thing else .

@username8888 that isn't what I said. At no point did I say thar the royal family was racist because no one (before meghan) who was not Caucasian had married into it.

What I said was that Meghan is the first person of colour to have done so. Queen Charlotte skin colour can not reliably be proven one way or another (although she was certainly the subject of racist statements).

I have also commented in other posts that Meghan was certainly on the receiving end of racist behaviour by members of the wider family. As we are not privy to more details, I can't comment on whether members closer to the throne have been racist towards her (unconsciously or not) although it wouldn't surprise me if some had.

With regards to your comment about the "logic" that I did not put across:

Not having had people of colour marry into a Caucasian family does not make that family racist, you're right.
However, the fact that a family does not include people of colour can be indicative of such a family's racism and such a thing might well be because of racism. In fact, in a country where people of colour have always been a minority it is likely that racism is directly or indirectly to blame.

@username8888 I really hope your username is coincidental and not deliberately making use of far-right neo-Nazi codes?

People seem keen to make out that Meghan is lying or deluded in making claims about racism. I have also seen people claim she’s playing the race card. There seems to be a blanket ”there’s no racism, what is she talking about?” attitude.

My other point is that Meghan’s racism claims may have more credibility because of the pre-existing history. But because so many people are ignorant about the pre-existing history, they don’t know about what went on before. Root causes of racism.

There are so many documented instances of racism within the Royal Family anyway. But people want to pretend racism is not real.

Because they want to protect their royal family?

It’s like in soap operas when a child refuses to believe their parent is a baddie against all the evidence, because that’s their mummy or daddy.