Was racism present in the royal family BEFORE Meghan?!

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Was racism present in the British Royal Family before Meghan arrived on the scene?

It matters to know the history because we all know how the royal family like to hold on to their traditions and are generally not fond of change.

The fact we think Meghan is the first person of colour in the royal family’s history goes some way to demonstrate the point… because she is not the first non-white.

The Little-Known History Behind the People of Color Who Joined the Royal Family Long Before Meghan (time.com/5946375/people-of-color-royal-family-victorian-era/)

The royals and racism — before Meghan and Harry

Buckingham Palace banned ethnic minorities from office roles, papers reveal

Why do you think the British Royal Family press teams might want us to forget that true history? Shouldn’t it instead be celebrated that there were people of colour in the royal family before Meghan? Why is the history hidden? What happened to the non-white royals who came and went before Meghan?

Prince Philip was known as 'phil the Greek' for decades. He was othered by the establishment as being , poor, European and from a rackety if royal background

They're gorgeous! She exclaimed in surprise.

I'm sure there was the usual unconscious bias within the palace staff as there is within society. It's a diverse topic with hidden issues. They need educating like all of society. However as head of the commonwealth many of the royal household had more dealings with poc than most of us and seem pretty educated on their diverse customs.

Cultures...not customs

Err I think you’ll find I’m actually surprised these three gorgeous princesses apparently struggled to find suitable marriage partners. Only one out of the three married, and that was in much later life too.

Really cannot understand the point you're trying to make...

Recognising that people of colour are part of British history and have contributed greatly does not negate centuries of racism. A royal family of colour, embraced by Queen Victoria and her brood does not prove that the history of the current Royal family is not racist, or that the current family is not either (although none of us know for certain).

Princesses Gouramma and Sophia, and Maharajah Duleep Singh all deserve to be remembered - absolutely - but I cannot fathom whether you think they should be held up as examples of diversity within the Royal Family, or of racism.

Because: racism

The royal family is and always has been racist. I don't mean the Queen. But certainly some other members and the courtiers.

Oh dear, my heart bleeds for this rich, white man.

Indeed,typically the Establishment others everyone even slightly different. Doesn't change the racism.

Hopefully, the youngest two generations of Royals will be very different from their predecessors but that remains to be seen.

'coloured immigrants or foreigners' were banned from public roles in royal households in the 60s, though they were allowed to work in hiding, ie cleaners. There's plenty of evidence to back this up.

Prince Phillip was both racist and subject to racism within the RF. Harry was old enough when he chose to dress as a Nazi that doing so was a terrible idea. Out of everything he could dress as, why that? The fact he says he is ashamed about it now doesn’t impress me one bit. And calling colleagues of South Asian heritage our P…. friends and Afghans, ragheads. I don’t care if he’s married to a woman who is mixed race, who the heck says things like that. These things were said at a time when racism was being challenged, not the1960s and 70s. If he thought it was ok to come out with offensive stuff it makes me wonder what was tolerated in the RF. For all the defence of Susan Hussey (she’s a different generation, she’s old etc) it is very troubling that she couldnt consider a black woman was ‘really’ British.

i don’t understand the purpose of this thread ,
there were , still are , many foreign royals that are close to the RF, it means absolutely nothing .

Why do I have to be making a point? If there is a point it’s that we need to explore and understand the history better.

For better or for worse, history is what it is. I don’t see the point in being ignorant about the history.

Princesses Gouramma and Sophia, and Maharajah Duleep Singh all deserve to be remembered
- absolutely - but I cannot fathom whether you think they should be held up as examples of diversity within the Royal Family, or of racism.

I'm asking why they’ve been forgotten? Has racism played a part in forgetting them?

This is my view too.
How many examples of racism do you need OP?

Many, many examples.

The press often in cahoots - look at the attitude to Di and Dodi (before they died). I doubt the redtops would have have been screaming in disgust if she'd taken up with the son of a white billionaire.

The Royal Family are still exempt from the Equality Act.
Charles was taken to an Industrial Tribunal where the employee alleged he was racist. Kate and William had a painting of a slave in their apartment in the room where they welcomed the Obama's for a meeting. Philip's many public racist incidents. Queen Mother reportedly said racist things. Lady Hussey is clearly racist. Duchess of Kent wearing a blackamoor brooch to meet Meghan and Harry. Camilla having a blackamoor statue in her house. William and Harry have Out of Africa party with many attendees wearing racist costumes. Harry saying racist things.

The whole family is clearly racist.

I'm asking why they’ve been forgotten? Has racism played a part in forgetting them

Undoubtedly, yes.

Im still not sure what your question is.

Another one completely puzzled. Although if you are trying to make a point that you think it's unfair or silly etc. that these people aren't more widely known, then yes I would agree with that. I would like to find out more about the suffragette you refer to.

Most dont no 😂Really only two species of bear would do.

So as with your saying its meaning less, word salad 😂😅😂

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Lady Hussey is a racist prick for being persistent with the 'where are you from' and being condescending by saying if I had been to france, I'm sure I'd know about it. It was right that she lost her job.... see ya! 👋

It is unfair and silly that we don’t know as much about the other figures. Anita Anand writes a lot about the suffragette princess; there’s a book, podcast and (in the making) movie.

The history of racism might explain why the royal family might have a current problem, but also why they might think (behind closed doors) that they have little reason to change.

If historically they’ve got away with racism then, from their perspective, they may feel they’ll get away with it again now and in the future. Where’s the deterrent?!

The royal family have also witnessed Meghan be demonised (rightly or wrongly) for suggesting there’s a racism problem. So from the royal family’s viewpoint, it must seem that the person calling them out on racism is the one having a harder time.