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SPARE - Harry’s book release announced

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Rinoachicken · 27/10/2022 11:34

So he’s called it ‘Spare’ and it’s being released on 23rd Jan.

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PoseyFlump · 30/10/2022 12:34

sashagabadon · 30/10/2022 10:53

She’s a fantastic diver!!

Yeah she was. But you forgot to add something spiteful and hateful - those are the rules when commenting on H&M threads.

Diverseopinions · 30/10/2022 13:00

Coucous

I expect the publishers wanted that angle.

Do you remember, Harry talked, a year ago, about writing a book about the man he has become, rather than the man he used to be, when just out of adolescence, and a frontline Royal. The publishers have obviously told him: "No. The public don't want that take on your journey".

The public can relate to a child losing their mother. Harry doesn't get it, that his extreme wealth - living in a 14 million dollar mansion - makes his adult struggle unrelatable. Ordinary people in the UK want a house too. They would take some pride in the home ownership that their working class parents achieved. Alas, houses were cheaper then, vis a vis, monthly income. Now, both parents work, and still spend every morning waking up with their closest friend, ' Worry'. They'd like to tell their children to work hard at school to get a good career, but they know they'd be lying to them. Meanwhile, Harry has found a great way to bring in the dollars: monetising his unique start in life.

A lot of people, like me, believe that the reason the Royal Family expect their members to be disciplined and hardy, is because they know that their lives are so much m easier and with greater privilege than the average Joe, in the street. The Queen had her pockets sewn up, reportedly, to stop her fiddling with them, on duty. She was told she had to train herself not to need the loo, when on important engagement. They put up with slurs in the press. A lot of people, like me, have read that it is their way of acknowledging that they ought to be hardier than the average citizen because, for them, surviving has been a breeze. In 1952, when Elizabeth ascended the throne, it wasn't, easy for most people. I had a sister who died as a baby in 1949, from an illness, curable with antibiotics.

Now, we will say, "Don't do the stiff upper lip thing. People don't see it as your way of showing you can be strong, because you have the resources to be able to do it, and out of respect to us". The Royal Family have had to learn what we, the public think, the hard way. Prince Philip.had a harsh childhood. We, the public, have said that we despise the mantra "Don't complain and don't explain." Only recently, have the establishment understood what we mean. Hence Charles's more emotional accolades to his deceased mother.

I wish Diana had not have died, but I also wish she had not gone off on a holiday jaunt, allowing herself to extend her vacation beyond the plan, and to put her security in the hands of a non-expert. I wish she hadn't taunted and enticed the press by telling them, weeks or days before her death, that something was going to change significantly, soon. Maybe she had intended to get engaged to Dodi - or to make some other change: who knows.

I think the Royal Family thought that getting the boys to follow the coffin was a way of keeping things going to respect the way the general public keep things going, in their own way, during adversity. They were wrong. But, I think they know that now:, and we know it.

The Royal Family is staffed by human beings. I'm glad Catherine, Princess of Wales, does the royal duties and then stays around, for the kids. I'm glad she's not off on holidays, on her own, making her beauty even more alluring and seeking to be the most gorgeous woman ever.

I'm sorry Harry had to walk behind his mother's coffin, but I'm also sorry that Diana didn't take more precautions to prevent herself stepping beyond the reach of the protection which her ridiculously and self-generated high profile necessitated.

I'm sorry to say it, but I think Harry was let down by his Mum, and he should try to eschew the high profile in the media, which
created so many of Diana's problems.

PoseyFlump · 30/10/2022 13:19

Nope. Can't see anyone judging Diana on this thread 🤥

PoseyFlump · 30/10/2022 13:21

I'm glad Catherine, Princess of Wales, does the royal duties and then stays around, for the kids. I'm glad she's not off on holidays, on her own, making her beauty even more alluring and seeking to be the most gorgeous woman ever.

Oh, did William and Catherine get a divorce? Or are you comparing apples and carrots just for fun?

Croque · 30/10/2022 13:22

Diverseopinions · 30/10/2022 13:00

Coucous

I expect the publishers wanted that angle.

Do you remember, Harry talked, a year ago, about writing a book about the man he has become, rather than the man he used to be, when just out of adolescence, and a frontline Royal. The publishers have obviously told him: "No. The public don't want that take on your journey".

The public can relate to a child losing their mother. Harry doesn't get it, that his extreme wealth - living in a 14 million dollar mansion - makes his adult struggle unrelatable. Ordinary people in the UK want a house too. They would take some pride in the home ownership that their working class parents achieved. Alas, houses were cheaper then, vis a vis, monthly income. Now, both parents work, and still spend every morning waking up with their closest friend, ' Worry'. They'd like to tell their children to work hard at school to get a good career, but they know they'd be lying to them. Meanwhile, Harry has found a great way to bring in the dollars: monetising his unique start in life.

A lot of people, like me, believe that the reason the Royal Family expect their members to be disciplined and hardy, is because they know that their lives are so much m easier and with greater privilege than the average Joe, in the street. The Queen had her pockets sewn up, reportedly, to stop her fiddling with them, on duty. She was told she had to train herself not to need the loo, when on important engagement. They put up with slurs in the press. A lot of people, like me, have read that it is their way of acknowledging that they ought to be hardier than the average citizen because, for them, surviving has been a breeze. In 1952, when Elizabeth ascended the throne, it wasn't, easy for most people. I had a sister who died as a baby in 1949, from an illness, curable with antibiotics.

Now, we will say, "Don't do the stiff upper lip thing. People don't see it as your way of showing you can be strong, because you have the resources to be able to do it, and out of respect to us". The Royal Family have had to learn what we, the public think, the hard way. Prince Philip.had a harsh childhood. We, the public, have said that we despise the mantra "Don't complain and don't explain." Only recently, have the establishment understood what we mean. Hence Charles's more emotional accolades to his deceased mother.

I wish Diana had not have died, but I also wish she had not gone off on a holiday jaunt, allowing herself to extend her vacation beyond the plan, and to put her security in the hands of a non-expert. I wish she hadn't taunted and enticed the press by telling them, weeks or days before her death, that something was going to change significantly, soon. Maybe she had intended to get engaged to Dodi - or to make some other change: who knows.

I think the Royal Family thought that getting the boys to follow the coffin was a way of keeping things going to respect the way the general public keep things going, in their own way, during adversity. They were wrong. But, I think they know that now:, and we know it.

The Royal Family is staffed by human beings. I'm glad Catherine, Princess of Wales, does the royal duties and then stays around, for the kids. I'm glad she's not off on holidays, on her own, making her beauty even more alluring and seeking to be the most gorgeous woman ever.

I'm sorry Harry had to walk behind his mother's coffin, but I'm also sorry that Diana didn't take more precautions to prevent herself stepping beyond the reach of the protection which her ridiculously and self-generated high profile necessitated.

I'm sorry to say it, but I think Harry was let down by his Mum, and he should try to eschew the high profile in the media, which
created so many of Diana's problems.

Great post.

Morestrangethings · 30/10/2022 13:26

😂🤣

Morestrangethings · 30/10/2022 13:29

Sorry the two laughing faces were an appreciative response to your post posey , your comment about how you couldn’t see anyone judging on this thread . Very funny.

PoseyFlump · 30/10/2022 13:32

Thanks @Morestrangethings it's making me laugh too! 😂😂

MidnightConstellation · 30/10/2022 13:53

Croque · 30/10/2022 13:22

Great post.

Excellent summary.

MrsTumblebee · 30/10/2022 14:16

Serenster · 30/10/2022 07:45

It's also worth noting Diana herself wasn't deeply adored by the public at the time of her death. Most were sick of seeing her cavorting round Europe on a playboy's yacht.

Not just any playboy’s yacht either - Mohammed Al Fayed was extremely controversial as this was just a couple of years after the “cash for questions” scandal where it had been revealed he’d been bribing politicians to ask questions for him in parliament.

People weren’t happy because he was a Muslim. Yes there was the cash for questions scandal but it as secondary to him being a Muslim.

MrsTumblebee · 30/10/2022 14:28

PoseyFlump · 30/10/2022 09:12

There seems to be some rumours of a young woman obtaining a hair sample from Harry. It's easy to say it's bollocks but look at the phone hacking scandal. I wouldn't put it past them. And as @Morestrangethings said, Harry still had to live through these things, true or not.

And it makes it all the more disgraceful that people still make ref to the rumor regarding his parentage knowing how much it could hurt someone hearing it about themselves.

He’s the absolute spitting image of a young Prince Phillip and there are red heads in both Diana’s family as well as the Royal family.

I think we live in really fucked up times when to call a persons parentage into doubt is such an easy thing for so many people to do.

Readinginthesun · 30/10/2022 14:38

MrsTumblebee · 30/10/2022 14:16

People weren’t happy because he was a Muslim. Yes there was the cash for questions scandal but it as secondary to him being a Muslim.

That is true however my recollection is that there were huge concerns about Dodi’s father who had been refused British citizenship. As far as I know he still hasn’t been given that .
The RF and Government had concerns about William and Harry spending time with him and his family.

Serenster · 30/10/2022 16:54

People weren’t happy because he was a Muslim. Yes there was the cash for questions scandal but it as secondary to him being a Muslim.

This is still several years before 9/11, remember. At the time, being Muslim (and a very moderate Muslim as Dodi was - he was a playboy, a womaniser and an alcohol drinker) was nowhere near as controversial as it would later become.

ShamedBySiri · 30/10/2022 17:13

I don't think it was to do with him being Muslim. Even before the cash for questions scandal, Al Fayed had been trying for British citizenship for years and repeatedly turned down. I don't know why but it seems the authorities thought him a dodgy character. He had enemies in high places.

PoseyFlump · 30/10/2022 18:01

But what do you think about the book?

Serenster · 30/10/2022 19:50

I don't know why but it seems the authorities thought him a dodgy character

Because he was! He bought the House of Fraser Group in the late 1980s and was investigated by the Department for Trade and Industry over the acquisition. The official report found that he dishonestly misrepresented his origins, his wealth, his business interests and his resources to the Secretary of State, the Office of Fair Trading, the Press, the House of Fraser Board, its shareholders, and his own advisers.

susan12345678 · 30/10/2022 20:23

He had a reputation for being a rather sleazy, dishonest character. Didn't he also misappropriate the 'al' in his name to make himself sound more important, and lie about his family background in Egypt?

Diana was really thumbing her nose at the establishment when she decided to dally so publically with someone so thoroughly disreputable.

MidnightConstellation · 30/10/2022 20:43

Has anyone read Rod Liddell’s piece in the Sunday Times today? It’s right on the money!

MidnightConstellation · 30/10/2022 20:46

If anyone has a share token please share it! I read the paper.

ShamedBySiri · 30/10/2022 21:00

Thanks @Serenster lost in the mists of my memory and I couldn't be bothered to google but it's all coming back now!

Yes Diana was enjoying sticking it to the establishment. She'd fallen out with her mother who had let her opinions known. I'm not sure if they had restored contact before she died.

She was also embarrassing her son....
(Singular as I assume Harry was too young to understand).

ShamedBySiri · 30/10/2022 21:03

Share token

Rod Liddle: Here’s Harry’s sob story. If he were happy, his publishers wouldn’t be smiling.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9d52ea0c-56e7-11ed-8e9a-37443e2955cd?shareToken=381e710b783cb8c35a56b0cb0b38671cc_

MidnightConstellation · 30/10/2022 21:08

ShamedBySiri · 30/10/2022 21:03

Share token

Rod Liddle: Here’s Harry’s sob story. If he were happy, his publishers wouldn’t be smiling.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9d52ea0c-56e7-11ed-8e9a-37443e2955cd?shareToken=381e710b783cb8c35a56b0cb0b38671cc_

Thanks! I thought it was an excellent summary of the situation.

ShamedBySiri · 30/10/2022 21:19

Apparently most friends said a polite NO while noting the irony that H would have had a fit if they talked to the press. Hmm

Prince Harry asked his friends and ex-girlfriends to feature in Spare
https://mol.im/a/11370761

Roussette · 30/10/2022 22:06

Rod Liddle? The Rod Liddle who was arrested for punching his pregnant girlfriend and who wrote that election days should be on a Muslim religious day so that Muslims couldn't vote, and Tories could gain extra seats, oh...and he ridiules DV victims. that Rod Liddle?

He spews out bile in the manner of Levin et al so hardly surprising he would write an insulting and unpleasant article such as this and hardly surprising some MNers would really like it

Coronateachingagain · 30/10/2022 22:12

Roussette · 30/10/2022 22:06

Rod Liddle? The Rod Liddle who was arrested for punching his pregnant girlfriend and who wrote that election days should be on a Muslim religious day so that Muslims couldn't vote, and Tories could gain extra seats, oh...and he ridiules DV victims. that Rod Liddle?

He spews out bile in the manner of Levin et al so hardly surprising he would write an insulting and unpleasant article such as this and hardly surprising some MNers would really like it

😃 I don't know him at all. But you seem to know his background well, at such an opportune time - very impressed