SPARE - Harry’s book release announced

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So he’s called it ‘Spare’ and it’s being released on 23rd Jan.

Camilla wasn't the only mistress before Charles was married, nor in the early days of the marriage.

I suspect he might have been physically faithful (until the marriage had in his words irrevocably broken down, which I always though was code for 'when Diana took her first lover') but he may well have had emotional affairs with both his main mistresses

I lost a great deal of sympathy for Diana when she took to shagging married men, and was the "third person" at least twice

Novella4 I don’t think there was any intentional deceit. Charles was brought up to believe he was the centre of the universe and was fully entitled to a mistress. Everyone knew about Camila before the marriage. I suspect Prince Philip and possibly the late Queen thought that once beautiful Diana was on the scene that he would dump Camila. I think Charles was also initially attracted to Diana, it just wasn’t enough to replace Camila or make the marriage work. I just can’t see them married today even if Camila wasn’t there. I think everyone at the time was hoping for the marriage to work but it was never going to.

A personality clash is definitely rewriting history. Like a lot of posts on this thread.

'When Diana let it be known how unhappy she was she was ignored and eventually thrown to the wolves .'

Yes didn't she tell her sisters she was worried it was a mistake but they pushed and said too late now, the tea towels have been made. They let her down terribly.

@headstone
At their engagement interview Charles said
'Whatever love is '

He was basically saying I'm not in love

Yes, I agree. He could never directly state it but it has been mentioned in one of the royal-friendly books. Diana did embark upon a shagathon of sorts! She also loved hanging out with celebrities. She was the first royal to openly bridge the gap between a royal and a celebrity. Margaret did it before her, obviously but it was largely kept under wraps as far as possible. I do not think it would have lasted with Dodi. He was her post-divorce rebellion partner who ticked all the boxes to give HMQ indigestion.

I dislike how C &C are being remarketed as a great love story when it was one among several clandestine relationships that was outed and went the distance. One could say that their public union was a brilliant PR move to ensure the survival of the monarchy by righting wrongs. The general public have largely lapped it up.

Novella4 I agree he was never in love with her, I think it’s actually impossible to love two people at once. I think he was hoping for a happy marriage though at that point.
look at it this way , if the Royals hadn’t concocted this dreadful marriage we’d now be looking at Queen Eugenie and The King dad Andrew

She didn’t exactly come from a supportive family. I do believe her dgm, Lady Fermoy, warned her against it. However it’s very hard to dissuade someone about matters of the heart once they’ve made their mind up.

Are you sure ? I recall that Lady Fermoy was close friends with the QM and they colluded to encourage the match .

And I didn't know anyone who hated the royal family at the time either.

The royals had been pretty unpopular for a while.

The queen finally had to stump up a bit towards the repairs at the fire damaged and uninsured Windsor after an outcry over the taxpayer coughing for the lot. She only bowed to further disquiet over her extensive tax breaks and 'volunteered' to pay tax in 1993 .There was Fergie's infamous toe-sucking scandal and all of this was alongside various marital separations.

It's also worth noting Diana herself wasn't deeply adored by the public at the time of her death. Most were sick of seeing her cavorting round Europe on a playboy's yacht.

I wish I could remember what she was supposed to have said to her - it was something like ‘they have a totally different sense of humour to us’.

Regarding the hysteria. I’ll never forget the absolutely awful sound of some woman in the crowd shouting/wailing ‘Diana’ when her coffin appeared. It was disgraceful. There was dead silence apart from the sound of the horses and the next thing this bloody awful scream pierced the air and I hope it stopped because someone told the screamer to shut the hell up, or even better still found away to shut her up.

The boys were living their own personal nightmare and that stupid ignorant woman couldn’t act with any sense of decency or decorum and take a lead from two wee boys at the worst time of their life.

I thought exactly the same about that woman. Self indulgent hysteria which intruded on everyone else’s respectful silence.

"Spare" is my new wordle starter word.

Thanks for the wordle spoiler. Really thoughtless.

That’s not today’s word though!

No it's not Serenster - they are the last three days since the title was announced. But never mind. If the New York Times has a secret message it is lost on many.

It's also worth noting Diana herself wasn't deeply adored by the public at the time of her death. Most were sick of seeing her cavorting round Europe on a playboy's yacht.

Not just any playboy’s yacht either - Mohammed Al Fayed was extremely controversial as this was just a couple of years after the “cash for questions” scandal where it had been revealed he’d been bribing politicians to ask questions for him in parliament.

And what does this have to do with Harry? Other than another stick to beat him with?

So is it true that the News of the World obtained Harry's dna and carried out a test which proved he wasn't Hewitt's son?

Is that another thing Harry doesn't have the right to be pissed off at?

He was her post-divorce rebellion partner who ticked all the boxes to give HMQ indigestion

Wasn't he the two-fingers to the heart surgeon?

if the Royals hadn’t concocted this dreadful marriage we’d now be looking at Queen Eugenie and The King dad Andrew

Aside from the fact that Charles would have married someone else suitable, and had different DC, there is only ever one king and kings are always regnant.
If Andrew abdicated, he would remain as Duke of York. He would not retain the title of King (remember Queen Mother is an alternate title for Dowager Queen, and there's no such thing as dowager king)

If Charles had however no DC, then Andrew would have remained heir presumptive, and I think his life would have turned out very differently (likely that he's still be the same unimpressive character and temperament, but far fewer opportunities for trouble, and perhaps more fostering of a sense of duty might have led to some changes for the better). And it would have been very different for his DC who would both have been working royals

That's utter bollocks. The bit about the DNA test that is. And how would they get reference samples? It's implausible enough that they stole samples from Harry, let alone Charles, and there's no reason for Hewitt to cooperate either. As he knows he didn't meet her before Harry was a toddler.

Harry is the acknowledged child of the marriage. And he looks like various paternal relatives.

I looked it up and there was no attempt to get his DNA it seems.

But it occurred to me that Harry still had to live through this, and how distressing I thought it must have been -he was about 18 or 20. The story was all over the newspapers. (I think he probably hates tabloid newspapers for more than the reason given - that he blames them for Diana’s death). And I remember reading the rumours when he was still a young boy.

And it’s all because he had red hair really. And there were people trying to smear Diana’s character. One look at him and you can see he takes after his father’s side of the family. But dear god, imagine growing up with those rumours.

I didn’t save the link but searching Harry, dna, News of the world, will result in articles.

There seems to be some rumours of a young woman obtaining a hair sample from Harry. It's easy to say it's bollocks but look at the phone hacking scandal. I wouldn't put it past them. And as @Morestrangethings said, Harry still had to live through these things, true or not.