SPARE - Harry’s book release announced

[Rinoachicken]

So he’s called it ‘Spare’ and it’s being released on 23rd Jan.

It is suggested that displaying emotions and talking about mental health is helpful but tbh, taking a look at the world, particularly the western world, I don't think we've ever been more profoundly mentally unwell, despite all the candour, the discussion etc. I totally agree

I remember that initially this is what they wanted. It would have been far better if there had been a private family funeral conducted at Althorp away from the cameras. I’m really not sure why that didn’t happen.

'As for your comments on mental health - lies, cover up and deceit are the enemies of mental health .'

My post had nothing whatsoever to do with lies, cover up and deceit. I was simply making the point that the much vaunted discussion and openness around mental health issues actually seem to be exacerbating the issues. We as a society have never been more open and honest about mental health issues, and never been so impacted, ground down and debilitated by mental health issues.

Of course it's not @MidnightConstellation 🤥😉😂

Don't you know? A 12 year old boy apparently.

The royals could learn from Harry - but they seem to prefer cover ups ...

And boy don't they love a cover-up. Mountbatten is just scratching the surface.

'And boy don't they love a cover-up. Mountbatten is just scratching the surface.'

You keep bringing him up. Perhaps you should start a thread about him?

'Don't you know? A 12 year old boy apparently.'

What, he ok'd the while ridiculous ott funeral? The Spencer family really are a weird bunch aren't they. Why on earth did they let a vulnerable 19yr old be sucked into that world is just baffling. At least when she had tragically died they could've put an end to the circus and allowed Diana some privacy and dignity.

@LookingAtYou there is a thread already. Just bringing the sunlight ☀️ for those who don't know what a depraved lot they are.

So now you're also blaming the Spencers?

I think Tony Blair had a lot to do with it . Remember he had just swept to power and was very popular. The RF were ( I think) shell- shocked by events and took advice from him . Emotions were running high in the country so it was agreed Diana would have a huge funeral ( don’t think it was a State one but pretty close) .
Looking back it would have been better to have a family funeral and a memorial service later.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Out of interest I went to have a look at the threads in the RF section (I usually stumble upon them in active). You lot really love talking about Megan and Harry, don't you?!

Found this post hilarious:

"I wasn’t there when whomever it was commented on the Sussex baby’s skin tone. I was at Pizza Express in Woking with my daughter — my alibi is rock solid. You’ll have to sweat this one out on your own."

Then there's the thread suggesting Camilla's book slags off Harry (oh of course she didn't write it blah blah) and how they are worried Harry will slag off Camilla in his book. Is this what it's all about? The old Diana v Camilla?

Looking back it would have been better to have a family funeral

Many people were convinced Diana's death was not accidental. To have a private funeral and no public recognition would have made those same people say it was all being swept under the carpet. I think it's hard for some posters to really remember what the mood in the country was like.

Is that seriously the title? That's embarrassing.

Now that you mention it. Her "blood family" should have taken care of it and could have arranged a smaller funeral at Althorp.

Well, if you watch ‘The Queen’, that was HMQ’s initial reaction. It was Tony Blair
and I think PC who called for a bigger funeral. I do think it would have impossible to have had a private family funeral though. Why did they invite all those celebrities? That was odd.

Not blaming per se but they are accountable to some degree. They knew how vulnerable she was and even if Diana couldn't be warned off someone should have had a quiet word with Charles and explained it would be an unmitigated disaster. The rf just seems so utterly clueless at times.

Regarding the funeral yes I blame the Spencers. Her brother took the opportunity to make a big public, absolutely inappropriate Harry style attack when what he should have done was overruled Tony Blinking Blair and kept it all private. They all failed her not just the rf.

But what would Diana have wanted? The was a definite 'mood' in this country at the time. There's no way there could have only been a private funeral. Look at the recent Liz Truss lettuce thing. When the Great British Public are pissed off en masse those at the top start panicking. Doesn't happen often enough, but still happens.

'But what would Diana have wanted?'

I'm guessing she would have wanted her boys away from the public, behind closed doors protected not paraded about to appease the hysterical British public. I doubt she'd have wanted her db using the opportunity to score points either.

No, the Queen didn't refuse because of the HRH thing. It was because the Royal Standard is only flown when the Queen was in residence, and obviously initially she wasn't.

I think the Spencers were quite keen on the idea. Initially the assumption was that it would be a private funeral, but there was so much pressure for it to be public and televised that they had to brush off the plans for the Queen Mother's funeral and do a quick adaptation. Earl Spencer was closely involved and I think he wanted everything that was available by way of royal ceremonial and publicity.

@LaGioconda
Thank you
An equally bullshit objection though

@LookingAtYou

The royal family were not clueless re Diana
They planned the whole thing - she had to be virgin , all the better if naive and sheltered too so Camilla and Charles could gaslight her

An equally bullshit objection though

The Royal Standard is only flown when a monarch is in residence and it is always at full mast because it represents the monarchy. There is never not a monarch because when one dies, the next immediately takes over as we saw recently so the Royal Standard is never at half mast for anybody, even the Queen. They were not picking on Diana. I know you don’t like the monarchy, but that is the protocol.

'The royal family were not clueless re Diana They planned the whole thing - she had to be virgin , all the better if naive and sheltered too so Camilla and Charles could gaslight her'

Yes but why didn't her family protect her? Why didn't they say to the rf she isn't naive and sheltered she is actually emotionally fragile and this whole thing will blow up. It can't have been a surprise how she unravelled surely?

@smilesy my point is protocol is bullshit
And they quickly overturned their precious protocol when the public mood became clear .
Yeeted that protocol right out the window

And hate horses.