Harry and Camilla and Charles and Andrew: Some Questions

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

I am reading that Charles will not invite Harry to the coronation if he criticises Camilla in his upcoming memoir.

There is also commentary that Harry's memoir will be damaging to the Royal Family. Most of the commentary is around fear of what he will say about Camilla.

I am struggling to understand what Harry could say that is more damaging about Charles and Camilla than we already know. The admitted adultery, the divorce, the whole ghastly Tampongate leaks happened, and they are now King and Queen.

Andrew paid out millions to put out fire on a sex scandal involving a minor and Epstein.

And recently, a biography of Camilla by Angela Levin has, I am informed, a whole chapter that seems gratuitous as it is extremely critical of Harry. Angela Levin has suggested that friends of Camilla cooperated with her on the book with her knowledge.

So why is Harry allowed to be criticised in a book about Camilla that appears to have her blessing, but he is not allowed to be critical of Camilla in his own book?

Step parenting relationships are inherently fraught, as we see here all the time. it can't have been easy for a 12-year-old boy who lost his mother to grow up learning that his father was involved to another woman. He will have heard about his mother's own affairs but it is hard to judge someone who died, and was his mother.

Of course, he may have overcome his resentment of his stepmother by now, but why is he not allowed to talk about what he was feeling then, and perhaps his struggle to accept the situation?

And why is what Harry may say about Camilla a bigger thing, and more damaging, than what Andrew did?

They have to fill their columns with any old rubbish

Most articles I have googled say that he will be invited, the speculation is over whether he will accept. The only ones that think he won’t be invited are on sites like the Daily Beast 🤷‍♀️

They aré discussing whether eh will be invited or not and then giving their own opinion i.e. there is a question mark river whether they will be invited.

That’s not the same as “apparently Charles is not inviting him” though, is it?

The question on the coronation is whether (who?) will have to bow/curtsey to the newly coronated King and Queen (ie Camilla).
I am not sure how many have to do this, but I seem to remember from TV that Prince Philip was the first to show he would 'serve' the Queen at the last coronation (I wasn't born, and have not watched the 4 hours of it, but we hear that this one will be shorter).
Maybe it only applied to the King, and not his wife?
Protocol would dictate that if P. Harry invited, then his wife would also be invited.
However, if Harry was unable to sing the National Anthem recently, would he be able to sing it at the coronation?

I can't see why King Charles wouldn't invite his son to his Coronation, even if they are not on the best of terms.

If however for some reason KC didn't want Prince Harry to attend of course he could refuse to invite him. The government couldn't insist on Harry attending if Charles didn't want him to.

@smilesy it is what lots of writers are saying.
But there has never before been a question mark over whether close family members would be invited to such a significant event.
My guess is that if Charles does not want them to be invited, he will ask the government to issue invites so it can be said it is a government decision.

@antelopevalley you are of course free to guess whatever you want. But that is a long way from asserting that “apparently Charles has not invited him”

Harry was singing the National Anthem at the committal service at Windsor.

As for the homage at the coronation, traditionally the clergy, members of the royal family, and peers pay homage, starting with the Archbishop of Canterbury. Charles may slim down the numbers; it's one of the reasons the ceremony is so long. Homage is not paid to the queen consort; she is crowned in a short ceremony after the homage.

I would be astonished if Charles did not invite his younger son & his wife to his Coronation. I suspect , depending on how things go between now and then they may be kept out of the limelight - but no invitation , don't believe that for a moment.

What writers ? I thought H and M supporters didn’t believe any writers ( Tom Bower, Valentine Low etc) with the exception of Scobie .

They have no idea. Idle speculation.

If you continually bitch whinge about the Royal family, why on earth would you WANT to be invited to the coronation?

What writers ? I thought H and M supporters didn’t believe any writers ( Tom Bower, Valentine Low etc) with the exception of Scobie 😆😆😆

Easy for Charles to end the speculation then. The Queen did when the press speculated whether Harry and Meghan would be invited to the Jubilee.

That's the puzzler.
If the family is so racist and so cruel, surely you'd want nothing to do with them?

Maybe they don't?
But plenty of people still have some contact with their difficult family. Most people do not go no contact with their families, especially when they have children.

I went non contact with a family member because they did not accept that I married a black person and our children are not white.
That was it.

@antelopevalley

Well they went no contact with her family, so clearly they have no issue with doing it even with kids

@Maireas

I’m so sorry that happened to you.

Yes, if they can cut Thomas Markle out completely, they can cut out the Windsors.

I think that they way Harry and Meghan were treated at the funeral as opposed to the Jubilee may be an indicator. At the Jubilee, they were relegated, some would say marginalized, as non-working royals. For the public funeral ceremonies, they were given full precedence as the King's son and daughter-in-law.

The coronation could go either way, or they might not attend, but I do think Charles is trying to extend the olive branch. What is said in the book could make a difference; I think the speculation is just based on human nature. Charles loves Camilla very much; I believe he fought hard within RF circles and with the late Queen for her to be recognized as Queen (consort). If Harry says unkind things about her in his book, it could well affect whether he will be welcome when she is crowned.

And if I were Charles, I wouldn't address the speculation at this point. I would wait until the book comes out to see what Harry has to say.

They haven't cut out "her family." Just the Markle side. Doria is very much a part of their lives.

Thank you 🙏. I always think that they missed out! My husband and children are great and I feel very fortunate 😊

Recent photos of the King and Queen have (incidentally) featured photographs of Harry and Meghan behind them. I think it's a gentle olive branch or signal that they still see them as loved members of the family.
I agree with Seneca in that the ball is probably in Harry's court.