Harry and Meghan doing alright in the US, continuing their universal service

[notanotheroneagain]

Have heard a few comments from panellists and commenters thinking that Harry somehow wants to come back to the UK?

I highly doubt this. I think they are doing more than ok in the US.

A pity a positive thread has been deleted regarding the podcasts, maybe the positive conversation can continue here?

In particularly I wanted to highlight the announcement that they will be recipients for the Robert J Kennedy Human Rights award.

“When The Duke and Duchess accepted our award laureate invitation back in March, we were thrilled. The couple has always stood out for their willingness to speak up and change the narrative on racial justice and mental health around the world,” Kerry Kennedy, president of Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights, and Robert F. Kennedy's daughter, said in a statement shared today. “They embody the type of moral courage that my father once called the ‘one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change.’”

No, but I took your comments about me breaking guidelines perhaps incorrectly as I thought you meant I was mistreating the other poster.

I am certainly not interested in fighting nor in criticizing you.

As for the quoting business it’s rather involved and related to two other threads and multiple quotes. I won’t rehash it further. I already mentioned it prior and should not have done so.

@HannaHanna

i didn’t mean to offend you, my comments were tongue in cheek, like the one about Tom Cruise (loved the book as a student) so sorry if they upset you
I’m doing kids activities in places with crap internet so my replies are sporadic

why don’t we move on ?

@oneuptwodown

I think you believe that they registered there to hide something.

Do I have it right?

I believe that they, like everyone else who registers in Delaware, want to pay as little in tax as possible and have as little information as possible publicly available.

The first limb is self-explanatory. The second MIGHT be because they have something to hide. Or, it could be because they don’t want the hassle of having to answer for entirely legitimate things. Or because they want to protect their “personal” financial dealings from being available to journalists who have a tendency to twist/spin things for headlines. Or, any other number of reasons.

@oneuptwodown The bullying stuff had nothing to do with anyone’s “truth” or the debate around charities.

The discussion about state, federal and state-based regulation of solicitation of law here, along with typical charity behavior wasn’t particularly heated from my perspective. There’s a body of facts around this and no matter who is correct those facts do not change. I enjoy that type of back and forth.

Of course the intentions of the principles of a business is another thing. I don’t know (or really care) and so don’t really get any entertainment from that aspect of the discussion. Nothing there could surprise me either way.

Clearly I'm in no position to know if the non-profit you volunteered with or the global companies you worked with were "trying to hide something"!

I'm trying to be polite and patient here as you seem very naive. But surely you can see that just because some of the huge number of organisations that incorporate in Delaware want to 'hide things', doesn't mean they all do. The vast majority of sexual attacks are perpetrated by men. It doesn't mean that all mean who walk down a dark alley or talk to a drunk woman in a club want to sexually attack a woman.

It's common knowledge that Delaware has the highest level of opacity in all of the 50 states of America. What is known as 'the corporate veil'. This corporate veil doesn't just cover the confidentiality of the names of the directors of the company.

The corporate veil, combined with the case law in Delaware and how corporations are viewed and treated legally, make it very difficult to hold individuals behind the company personally liable for debts and some crimes. It also makes it difficult for the corporation to be held liable. That is the plausible deniability I was referring to.

Got it. My only opinion is that the tax treatment and ease of incorporation is so easy, I can’t say if there is any other intent.

Because, other types of regulation can make it tough to really hide much of value.

Most states where a charity operates will be privy to all of this info anyway. They have to disclose annually who is involved, what they all get paid, even relationships between the people involved. So even if incorporated in Delaware, if you take money from people in Virginia, you’ll have to register there to do so and the. disclose all kinds of info.

Since they aren’t fundraising much at this point, they won’t likely meet the threshold in many places. But if they took $50K in California certainly the state of California is requiring similar info or even more than my own state.

Neither was it heated from my perspective - it’s pretty dry stuff, really!

But, imo you could admit it’s ludicrous branding this thread toxic because I challenged the credibility of your contribution because it’s based on being married to the person you’re married to. But, again, that’s a passing observation and nothing more than that. I couldn’t resist pointing out the irony on a thread about Meghan Markle and Prince Harry. The point is the irony, not you/your marriage/the actual fact. It’s kinda poetic in a “you couldn’t make it up” way! I’d say the same to any poster who would do the same, I have no idea who you are / what you post!

You can limit your financial liability here by forming an LLC or an Inc in any state. Criminal liability is still going to be state and federally determined. People operating charities are prosecuted for criminal acts in my state as warranted. Again, registering in another state wouldn’t offer protection from that.

I think it was shitty and uncalled for but we can just disagree.

No, I don’t see any irony. I think it’s weird that someone in another country would think they understand US law better than someone who sits in a house working all day with someone who is actually practicing law here.

You really think I don’t pick more up than someone googling because they want to figure out more about H&M?

Of course you can limit your financial liability in the US by forming an LLC or an Inc in any state. That's stating the obvious. The point is that you limit your financial liability more by incorporating in Delaware than you can anywhere else. That's a fact.

Also, nothing I wrote was solely based on my husband’s job. None of this info is that specialized. So it’s actually more like “confirmed by” hours after I posted in the first place.

He does get mad when I answer simple legal questions at cocktail parties but then admits I have it right. 🤣

Oh Hanna.

You seriously think that you know more than others here because you sit in the house all day with your husband who is a lawyer?

And then you complain of bullying when you come out with statements like that and people take the piss?

What your husband the lawyer should know is that one of the main requirements is to pay good attention to detail. And not to assume things. Earlier in this thread you failed to do both those things both regarding posts and the own 'proof' from websites that you provided.

Oh dear. I really don’t like making anyone feel bad, and I hate gotcha moments passionately. But I live in NYC, and am a dual qualified lawyer.

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That doesn't count @oneuptwodown

It's what your husband does that matters. And whether you listen to him intently. Duh.

Does your husband's law firm/company know that you are listening to his work conversations @HannaHanna ? I'm sure they'd frown on it. Because, confidentiality. There are rules about these things. But then you'll know that.

Anyway, I'm off to conduct a psychiatric session with someone despite not being qualified as a psychiatrist or even as a doctor. But no worries, having my psychiatrist husband Dr Google in the house throughout the pandemic WFH means that I don't need such a frippery as a certificate.

Maybe they are all rushing to Delaware because it is simply such a wonderful place 😊.
I can personally vouch for the fact that it has the best service station to stop for a good coffee and a good wee while driving NJ to DC. There is primary evidence available to suggest that M likes both.

Therefore, It makes perfect sense to ask your accountant to register your company there when you live in a completely different time zone seven hours away. Nothing wrong with aiming for the best I say. 😏

I don’t feel bad. I don’t really think you and I have said anything different.

You think they registered there for privacy. I think it could be that also but it’s definitely related to taxes and ease of registration, etc.

Can you concede this could be accurate?

I don’t think I’m qualified due to my husband’s job. I do think I’m qualified to weigh in because of my past work experience and charity Board membership.
Like I said, when I asked him later he agreed. So not just “my husband is a lawyer.”

I would never suggest my experience outweighs anyone’s US based legal bar membership or legal experience. But it does outweigh the internet googlers in England’s credibility.

I have to go now, long drive to a fun party.
I did enjoy this part of the chat.

Lol.

😂😂

@HannaHanna

I’m a former accountant/tax accountant who worked in a v large property company for a
number of years before moving corporate acquisitions. I’m a sahm to like yourself now, but, tax issues and company structures still raise a frisson of excitement. I would have asked loads of questions in an ama of this kind - sad I know 🤣

it was genuine musings on my part not repeated digs at you

ill leave you in peace now.

I am not a SAHM. or a mom. I work full time in my own field.

He knows a bit about what I do now also and asks me questions if it comes up.

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But I understand and am sorry I took your post the wrong way and reacted.

I agree it’s an interesting area. I work in a somewhat related field.