Can I ask a question about Diana please?

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If Diana was alive now and divorced from Charles, I just wonder what effect it would with a monarch having an ex wife alive and well.

Would Camilla as Queen consort risk being overshadowed by her DH's ex wife?

Also, if Diana remarried what effect would that have on her royal status, would she move out of where she was living at Kensington Palace do you think?

@Change123today he does lean a lot on Camilla and needs her so much.
In the pen tantrum video she seems to be so composed. The whole schedule must be greulling for her too but she is handling it so well.

You are spot on, they were married in a high street registry office. I can't remember where but it wasn't even the nicest looking building.

Cameras weren't allowed in, HMQ and PP weren't in attendance. I think it was only their kids. They later had a blessing.

Ann was re-married at Crathie Kirk CoS. which was an option but a bit of a slap in the face to CoE so they decided to play by the rules in England.

I actually don't believe he would have been allowed to marry if Diana was still living. When she died she was Diana, Princess of Wales not as she'd been previously and as Kate is now HRH Princess of Wales. She'd been completely stripped of her title but people power got her the edited version back.

King Charles would probably not have given the PoW title to William if Diana was still living it wasn't automatic like Rothesay and Cornwall

Diana would have been the mother in law from hell for both Catherine and Meghan, if she was still alive.

Camilla would be known as “Queen” as with all previous wives of Kings. They were all “Queen Consorts” officially but never referred to as such. Camilla being referred to as “Queen Consort” is a sop to Diana fanatics and perhaps nod of respect to Diana for the sake of William and Harry, as he’s son’s.

Princess Diana..
A wonderful woman. A true Humanitarian.
This is one of my very favourite pictures of Diana.
The Children are so sweet.

Pic didn't attach.. Diana and two little children.

She would continue as Queen Camilla, just like Queen Mary continued as Queen Mary after the death of George V

There is no reason to think there would be a concurrent Queen Camilla in her lifetime (unless a widowed William's second wife had that name) so no need to use a dowager title. But if by horrid mischance there were, then she's probably use dowager (which is the more 'normal' variant, just not the one most recently used and which was used for a long time)

That week from her death to the funeral was surreal. I think it was unique circumstances that brought on the collective grief we witnessed.

The fame that Diana had can never be emulated now because the media is much more fragmented, so we now pick and choose what we watch/read/listen to. Then it was newspapers (of which Diana was constantly on the covers), four/five tv channels and the radio. If you bought a paper or watched tv, which was almost everybody, you would see her. The media coverage was all consuming to the point I think she was the most publicised celebrity in history (the only other contender I can think of is Marilyn Monroe, but even then I don’t think she was covered 24/7 like Diana was).

With all this in mind, for this dominant media figure to then just suddenly die stunned everyone. Being so popular due to her warm personality and the perception she was wronged (“three in the marriage”) made seen as being almost a martyr. Saint like. The constant wailing as her coffin went through London on the carriage, it was as if she was a very close relative to those who reacted like that, which was a lot. In contrast to all this adoration for Diana the Queen has never been less popular than she was that week.

Camilla being referred to as “Queen Consort” is a sop to Diana fanatics and perhaps nod of respect to Diana for the sake of William and Harry, as he’s son’s

Penny Mordant referred to Queen Camilla in the proclamation proceedings, which I guess are the most formal and most authoritative occasion. And I think the commentary said she signed as Camilla R

So the consort bit isn't part of the title, and my guess is that's it's being used now simply to avoid confusion as every other sentence is about the Queen, meaning E II R

@oakleaffy

There are plenty of photos of Queen Camilla doing charity work, with children no less, should you choose to search for them.

@oakleaffy lovely picture.

I agree the consort will be dropped and she'll be known as Queen or Queen Camilla. I still can't get used to King Charles

Totally agree. She should be referred to as Queen Camilla same as Queen Alexandra, Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth all who were Queen consorts. The Queen Mother wasn't called that in the beginning.

I heard a presenter start calling her Queen Camilla but quickly changed to Queen consort.
Sounds daft to say King Charles III and then Queen consort as if she didn't have a name.
She Is Her Majesty Queen Camilla the Queen consort of King Charles III

I was lucky enough to meet Princess Diana, too.
I was amazed that she greeted us without gloves and formality, and she was absolutely ''Engaged'' and present.
She was hugely empathetic.
Diana was an 'Innocent' in many ways, an artlessness about her.
Lovely person.

Isausernameavailable · Yesterday 22:49

Camilla will always be the OW. Queen of tarts, maybe?

What a bitchy thing to say.
Piss off.

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I like this photo of her holding a child with leprosy.

Charles could never have married Camilla had Diane lived. I disagree that Diana might have lived a low profile life , she was addicted to the drama

Yes,I am sure the "consort" will be dropped once there is only one Queen to refer to. (Queen Camilla). At the moment The Queen (Elizabeth) is very much still a central figure with lots going on around her, albeit in death, so to call Camilla "The Queen" at the moment would be confusing. But of course she's Queen Camilla and would continue to be Queen Camilla if Charles dies before her.

As for Diana, who knows. So much has changed in 25 years how can we possibly speculate. I would hope she would be very much like the other non-royal grandparents of the Royal family - allowed to live her life, perhaps with occasional interest in the press if she appeared somewhere, but otherwise just a granny doing her thing like Doria, Mrs Middleton, and Sarah Ferguson.

Why wan't Prince Philip given the term 'Consort'?

Why just 'Prince'? He married the Monarch, was from Royal lineage.

I don't get the Diana worship at all. In the wake of the Queen's death, I've found a very keen strain of women my mother's age (born 1950s) being very upset about the death of the Queen, banging on about the importance of tradition, and yet very upset about Camilla (the King's wife) being Queen Consort (as is fully traditional). It always turns out to be because they're obsessed with Diana. Diana to me seems as if she would've been a total nightmare.

@VivienneDelacroix Yes, I like the idea of her being a somewhat wild granny, roaring up in her sportscar to take the grandchildren somewhere fun.

If Diana were still alive now I think she would have come to accept and respect Charles and Camilla's marriage and would not attempt to overshadow anyone. After all, she would have wanted her sons to have a good life and doing anything to damage their father would in turn damage them. She would have led a high profile celebrity life, but without causing controversy - see for example how Sarah Ferguson lives very happily within the royal circle despite being divorced. Both Sarah and Diana had a good relationship with their in-laws.
Had she remarried she would of course have moved out of the royal residence and would have lost her royal title, reverting back to her birth title, Lady Diana, plus whatever title she might have got from her new husband.
Had she not remarried, she would still have lost the princess of wales title when Charles remarried. Camilla became princess of wales through her marriage to Charles, she just chose not to use the title.
I imagine, had Diana lived, William would be living much the same life as he does now, but Harry's life would be very different.

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Definitely shows Diana's loving nature. Hope the child is OK now, and reached adulthood. The 'Child' would be in their thirties now.

@oakleaffy I hope so too. I think she was patron of the Leprosy mission until her death. That was in Nepal where leprosy had a stigma and people were disowned by families. Diana made a point of using touch to defy the stigma and idea that it could be caught by touching. I don't know the outlook for leprosy, there were medical staff at the mission, but I don't know whether they could cure it or only try to alleviate the symptoms.

Tend to agree, especially to the “other woman”. I’ll go a step further. I don’t think he’d be King either. He’d be far too unpopular to the extent it would endanger the Royal family who depend on public approval for their existence. They’d have skipped to William.

Charles (and by extension Camilla) was deeply unpopular in Diana’s last two/three years. She meanwhile was largely adored (rightly or wrongly).

When Charles and Diana were together, wherever they travelled to everyone made a beeline towards her. She was the star, the big attraction. He was just the partner, which he often joked about. She cast a massive shadow over not just him but the entire Royal Family. They couldn’t match her charm or people skills.

Luckily for the RF enough time has passed since Diana’s death for them to get out of the shadow she cast. An entire generation have grown up without Diana, so they don’t have that contrast in popularity between her and Charles. Had she still been alive a shadow would still be there, and so would the constant reminder to the awful, cold treatment she received.