Can I ask a question about Diana please?

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If Diana was alive now and divorced from Charles, I just wonder what effect it would with a monarch having an ex wife alive and well.

Would Camilla as Queen consort risk being overshadowed by her DH's ex wife?

Also, if Diana remarried what effect would that have on her royal status, would she move out of where she was living at Kensington Palace do you think?

I honestly don't think the Queen would have permitted Charles to marry Camilla if Diana was still alive.

I don't think Diana would have been nearly as popular because she would have almost certainly been involved in some scandal at some point. She was troubled and loved attention and the press were always desperate for a good story. She'd have messed up or been set up. And then there would have been an endless cycle of trying to rehabilitate her image as she got older and less glamorous and less relevant.

I'm not sure Charles would have fared any better though!

Also, if Diana remarried what effect would that have on her royal status

didn't she give up all royal statues in the divorce?

I think diana would most likely be a kind of second princess Margaret (for those old enough to remember her) glamorous and a social butterfly 🦋. Many boyfriends and summers spent in the Caribbean. A little embarrassing for the royals .7

An additional factor is how her looks faded as she aged, I think she would have aged well but there is no guarantee

I'd imagine she'd have been like Jennifer Aniston type figure there in that she'd have poured alot of her money into the best of surgery,diets etc so that she always looked brilliant and ageless.

I think she would be happily married now with a second family and get on well with Charles although maybe a bit frosty with camilla. In other words like most divorced couples

Fantasyland comments such as this "Bestsinglemumever · Today 08:44
Diana would’ve lived a life only depicted by fairy tales, however I believe after studying her death I found they used 2 cars and I think the royals killed her off because Charles wanted his dirty work dealt with, only to get with Camila."

Seriously either get a grip or pass your 'research' onto a dectective agency/police/MI whoever so that they can prosecute. Oh wait - there was an inquiry, the drunken driver, the speeding car, the press in pursuit, the lack of seatbelts, Dodi diddly wanting to leave The Ritz where he had a great suite to travel across the city for more publicity and drama - they didn't even have to leave the Ritz owned by his father - yet all those things were set up to come together in a crash where she died.

Some people really live in cloud cuckoo land

The term virtue signalling hadn’t been invented when Diana was still alive. But she was the ultimate virtue signaller.

Showing up at bedsides, holding the hands of AIDS patients, etc all brought her positive attention.

The one thing she was good at was PR. That’s why so many people seem to idolise her now when actually she had multiple affairs, didn’t give a shit about whose marriage she helped destroy (will carling?) but this was all overlooked because she had a positive pr opportunity wherever she went. A staged humanity to make sure her flawed slide was kept more out of the limelight.

But it wouldn’t have been sustainable. She became too involved in the party ing lifestyle and her interest in the causes was reducing, and as that happened people were starting to see her for what she really was.

I honestly cannot believe people think she was killed off. The RF had nothing to do with her choice to get in the car with a drunk driver or to not put on a seat belt.

Why would they want to hurt the young prince's?
Remember HMQ was slated for trying to keep out the public eye while dealing with the boys.

PP was effectively orphaned as a child, his mum was in a mental hospital, and Dad out the picture he didn't know where he was spending the next school holidays, sisters or Uncles. Why would he want that for his grandsons?

Harry in particular have made different choices if Diana was still living. William probably not.

I honestly cannot believe people think she was killed off. The RF had nothing to do with her choice to get in the car with a drunk driver or to not put on a seat belt

I think the queen gave an internal sigh of relief and the royals in general except her sons as she was a loose cannon especially after the panorama interview. Her death was therefore convenient but I still think it was an accident. She was under a shoddy security team.

It is a really common view, tbf.

Back in 2013, YouGov polled it. 40% thought accident, 38% not and accident (rest didn’t know).

I dare say people have become more conspiratorial over the last 5 or 6 years, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the majority view these days!

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2013/09/17/38-brits-princess-dianas-death-was-not-accident

Leaving aside the conspiracy angle it’s absurd to say she got in the car with a drunk driver, she didn’t know he was drunk.

*The term virtue signalling hadn’t been invented when Diana was still alive. But she was the ultimate virtue signaller.

Showing up at bedsides, holding the hands of AIDS patients, etc all brought her positive attention.

The one thing she was good at was PR. That’s why so many people seem to idolise her now when actually she had multiple affairs, didn’t give a shit about whose marriage she helped destroy (will carling?) but this was all overlooked because she had a positive pr opportunity wherever she went. A staged humanity to make sure her flawed slide was kept more out of the limelight*

agreed, the amount of people who can't see this or excuse her affairs is laughable. Cheryl Cole did similar, media sainted her yet forgot she had form for beating up black toilet attendants over a couple of lollipops.

The fact Diana pretty much left nothing to charity despite her vast wealth too is bad. I remember the wife of one of the men Diana targeted saying how Diana used to just turn up unannounced and would sit there in silence until the wife took the hint and buggered off, whereupon she could hear Diana spring into life and start chatting, laughing and flirting.

I think she'd be one of those annoying Instagram influencers bragging about her freebies while simultaneously drip feeding divorce trauma hints and threatening to spill the beans on the Royals. She'd definitely have PTSD and all the latest Prada handbags. I can see the Daily Mail featuring her irritating and banal TikTok dances in the sidebar of shame.

I can see her 'working' as an Environmentalist very publicly saving the planet, while flitting back and forth from London to LA on her private jet on a weekly basis to attend all the high profile red carpet premieres and awards ceremonies in eye wateringly overpriced haute couture.

Rumoured to be dating Elon Musk and a Royal Prince of Brunei simultaneously while popping up in unlikely places like Leonardo DiCaprio's humongous yacht as a red herring. Still very much proclaimed as the 'People's Princess' seen dining with the Greens in Monaco.

A failed lifestyle brand behind her, which has become highly collectable and cultish on eBay.

Her legacy will be a whole line of baggage featuring a new design logo brought out by Louis Vuitton and simply known as the 'Dianas' which will pass into the English language as in, 'You won't believe the damage they did to my Dianas on the airport carousel.'
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The thing I think is interesting is how much her death obviously shaped her sons' choice of spouse, it would be great to see who they would have married had she lived. William was searching for a settled family, with a 'strong mother figure' in CM. MM obviously keys into PH's need to 'protect' his Mum.

I think Diana would have been a society contributor to glossy magazines in America and just being feted as Lady Di.

A bit like Meghan and Harry then really....

The argument that Charles would not have been allowed to remarry if Diana had not died doesn't really hold water, as Camilla's former spouse is still living.

Jeez.

If you want to call someone names, aim them at the person who cheated.

To the OP, I would hope that everyone would have moved on by now, even if Diana was still around. Regardless of the way their relationship started, I think Charlies and Camilla have proved that they are committed to and love each other.

Camilla wasn't going to be head of the Church, her ex can easily be forgotten about.

Can you remember at the time of the wedding they said she'd become Princess consort rather than Queen. I read something recently she was scared of being heckled outside the registry office. Marrying the love of her life and scared of what people would think?

I think they would have lived like Andrew and Fergie, together known as a couple privately but not in public.

Yes! I've found it fascinating how Harry has found someone so like Diana, and the past has repeated itself in so many ways with a new generation. Down to the big interview, Bashir for Diana and Oprah for MM, a defining moment for both couples.

Very likely not.

I felt so sorry to see those two boys in their suits, watched by millions, at their mother's funeral. Having to hold in their grief when they were so young. Doesn't matter how rich you are it was an utter tragedy for those boys and I feel they must miss her still. I feel she was young and troubled and a certain amount of kindness should be extended towards her and her sons. She also was doing charitable work, walking through mine fields at the end of her life, to raise awareness of unexploded mines, so she was still a positive figure trying to do some good in the world.

Diana before her death was clearly building the kind of life she wanted for the future.
She would have carried on campaigning on more controversial issues such as landmines. These are issues the Royal Family do not touch. Her work would have looked more meaningful in contrast to the Royals.

She was very beautiful. All these comments about faded looks are pretty bitchy. She would be 61 years old if still alive and took good care of herself. There are plenty of beautiful celebrities at this age. She would have had plastic surgery, other Royals already do. But the trick is to have a top surgeon and not to have too much. She showed no sign of going down the too much surgery before her death, but no one knows if she would have or would not have.

She wanted a love marriage. She would eventually have found someone and married. It can be difficult for anyone in the public eye to find a partner who really does want them for themselves. But she was older and wiser and would have found someone.

She would have continued to love fashion and would have looked glamorous and modern in comparison to the Royals.

She would probably have continued to swipe at Charles and he would have swiped back. There was so much animosity between them that it would take a long time to fade.

This is true. But everyone forgets Charles also did the big interview and heavily criticised the Queen and Diana.

I still wonder about her car accident.At that time ,there was much speculation about her time spent with Dodi Al Fayed. And even she could have been pregnant by him.Therefore the idea was not too far fetched .

@gnilliwdog I don't think the RF would ask children to walk behind coffins now.

But Prince Philip was of a different era, he walked behind his sister and three young cousins including an un-named baby when he was just 16. The baby was born on the airplane before it crashed killing them all.

It puts a very different light on his views.