Can I ask a question about Diana please?

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If Diana was alive now and divorced from Charles, I just wonder what effect it would with a monarch having an ex wife alive and well.

Would Camilla as Queen consort risk being overshadowed by her DH's ex wife?

Also, if Diana remarried what effect would that have on her royal status, would she move out of where she was living at Kensington Palace do you think?

Yes. But her demons were magnificent too.

I think she had married a wealthy man who loved her as she needed to be loved for first time in her life and just been in background to support her boys and hopefully stopped harry from making his mistakes

We have no idea what Diana would have been like if she had not married at 19 years old a much older men who was not in love with her and was having an affair with the woman he would eventually marry.

Diana’s issues started in childhood, with her wildly dysfunctional family, not upon marriage at 20 to Charles.

She’d be 61 now. I like to think that if she were alive she’d have calmed down, addressed her issues from childhood, remarried and found peace away from the media while being there to support her sons and enjoy her grandchildren.

Under all the drama and her extreme feelings towards Charles I think she believed wholeheartedly in the institution of monarchy and would be so proud to see William take the throne. I can’t see her living abroad as she was so very, very English.

But I really can’t imagine Diana living beyond that night in Paris. Looking back it feels like it was an inevitability. I was 25 in 1997 so I do remember her quite well.

Wrong forum.

Honestly, I think the media, which had already begun to turn on her, would have become progressively more hostile and misogynistic as she aged, had she continued relationships with ‘unsuitable’ men.

After the divorce she became Diana, Princess of Wales not THE Princess of Wales.

Leprosy is 100% curable and has been since the 1960s.

Since at least 1981 the treatment has been free through the WHO.

Mother Theresa used to take people with leprosy into her 'home for the dying' and not tell people they could get treatment and be cured.

Both her and Diana had good PR, both were not saints (although technically one is now).

I didn't get the fuss at the time and I still don't. It was terrible that two children were left without a mother but no more so that any other mother's death.

One of the drugs used to halt the spread of leprosy is thalidomide. At least something good came from that awful drug. Although it does mean the drug is both in production and circulation and using it still carries risk for fertile women and possible pregnancies.

(I think the worst thing about Diana’s death was using those two grieving boys as a human shield against possible public anger during her funeral. Unforgiveable.)

I read somewhere that upon divorce she was Diana, Princess of Wales.

Kate is Catherine, The Princess of Wales.

"The" meaning the current wife of the current prince of Wales

I always remember someone saying the Queen Mother managed to get two Queens in her official title as Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother.

It’s impossible to say how things would have been had Diana not died. Very probably Charles would not have remarried. The lives of William and Harry would have been different. I’m old enough to remember her from the time before she married Charles onwards. It’s difficult to see through all the press manipulation but she seemed to have a personality similar to Harry. She had many good qualities and also flaws.

My son is early twenties. He went from a full head of very thick curly hair to thin with bald patches in the space of about a year. It’s genetic I believe. Mi imagine by the time he’s 30 there will be very little left. My husband was the same but he was a bit older.

Kate is HRH Princess of Wales the same as Diana was.
Diana Princess of Wales, swapping the HRH for Diana, came after the divorce.
I think in the time between separation and actual divorce there was lots of talk about her being stripped completely of all titles Diana, POW was a a compromise.

Catherine is HRH The Princess of Wales. Her own name doesn’t feature at all, and won’t officially feature in her title again until such times she’s HM Queen Catherine.

Won’t stop the press using it incorrectly though.

Yes, it would.

It’s impossible to say what would have happened had she not died.

The press was starting to turn on her. She was, long before Eugenie and Beatrice, the Princess on endless holidays. Her relationships were unsuitable. Dodi Al Fayed’s father would have sold his sons links to her constantly.

The royal family, and Charles in particular, wouldn’t have taken the popularity bashing they got in the run up to her funeral.

William and Harry would have been different people without that trauma in their lives.

It could be that she was mega popular, Charles never able to marry Camilla and the RF even less popular than now…

Equally she could have ended up being seen as an embarrassment, or a holidaying hanger-on ex princess who lived in a palace at our expense and the RF being seen as the victims of her madness.

In very, very many ways it would have depended who Rupert Murdoch and the rest of the press controllers preferred between her and the RF as to the slants they’ve have taken and the narrative created.

I'd agree it's impossible to say what would have happened.

If she'd gone on to marry someone else or have other children it would have paved the way for Charles to move on to marry Camilla ie way is divorce recognised for her but not him.

I think Harry in particular would be in a much better place MH wise but Diana had her own MH issues so maybe they'd have rubbed of each other. Or maybe he'd have felt pushed out by her having other children.

The island has between 6 and a dozen mature trees on it, no problem to dig a hole. Not only is it bigger than the cottage in the background, it is bigger than the cottage and garden.

Can we stop with the mad conspiracies.

I think she was patron of the Leprosy mission until her death. That was in Nepal where leprosy had a stigma and people were disowned by families. Diana made a point of using touch to defy the stigma and idea that it could be caught by touching

The queen did that in Nigeria in 1956.

The tree roots are probably the only thing holding that mound of mud together.

It is not disputed that the family vault in the local church was unsealed.

I think that Earl Spencer wanted to direct paying tourists to Althorp rather than to the church. Barely anyone had heard of it before and I bet plenty visited after so they could see this "fairytale island" that we'd seen in the papers.

That's what I think, anyway. It's just harmless speculation rather than "mad conspiracies". Calm down - we're allowed to have a little fun discussing such things.

I'd never heard of this until I met a couple from Great Brington and they believe she's at St Mary's because the night she arrived at Althorp or the night after, I cant remember now, the police came and told all the villagers that they needed to stay in their houses. And there were heliopters out too.
I'm not sure I believe it but it does sort of make sense to me.

The Queen visited a Leper Colony and talked to a child. She did not touch anyone with leprosy.

I wonder how many decades will have to pass before we could theoretically have up to 3 Queens at a time - The Queen (who is actually reigning), The Queen's mother and the Queen's wife.

It happened in 1952. Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth and Queen Elizabeth all attended George VI's funeral.