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Charles and Queen predicted to stay silent on 25th Diana anniversary

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antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:30

I know Diana was Charles ex, but she was the mother of his two sons. Surely they could just issue a joint bland statement acknowledging her untimely death and the impact on William and Harry?
To pretend it is not even happening would be pretty crass.

"Incredibly, however, the royal family has no plans to formally commemorate the 25th anniversary of the death of Princess Diana on Wednesday next week—illustrating, some would say, just how threatened they still are by her, even in death.
While her sons are widely expected to issue, at a minimum, online tributes, Prince Charles, who conducted an affair with his second wife, Camilla Parker Bowles, both before and throughout much of his marriage to Diana, which Diana publicly blamed for the collapse of their relationship, is likely to maintain radio silence."

www.thedailybeast.com/queen-elizabeth-and-prince-charles-have-no-plans-to-mark-25th-anniversary-of-princess-dianas-death

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NanaNelly · 28/08/2022 18:25

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MrsTerryPratchett · 28/08/2022 18:28

I am finding it hard to believe that you all do not give a toss about the anniversary of a significant death to someone close to you.

My MIL, yes. My exMIL, it wouldn't even cross my mind. Your interpretation of 'close' is very odd.

AlexandriasWindmill · 28/08/2022 18:30

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 16:25

"Next week is the 25th anniversary of my mother’s death, and she most certainly will never be forgotten. I want it to be a day filled with memories of her incredible work and love for the way she did it," Harry said, according to a text of the speech released by the charity.

www.reuters.com/world/uk/prince-harry-hopes-diana-death-anniversary-will-be-filled-with-memories-2022-08-26/

You do realise there is nothing here about him asking for public acknowledgement? Memories and love can be shared without fanfare, a PR company on speed dial and hassle from strangers who have no shame and somehow feel entitled to tell any grieving family members how to grieve.

Harry has always said he didn't understand the public who tried to make his and William's family loss, a public event.

Your insistence that you - a complete stranger - have any right to expect or dictate how people grieve or commemorate their loved one - is quite distasteful. Their public roles don't mean they are commodities in every aspect of their lives.

BigFatLiar · 28/08/2022 18:36

It's not that long since my parents died, I don't mark the date. I do think of them often but the actual dates they died no.
Why would we need to remember her on a specific day, you can remember her whenever you want, which is probably what William and Harry do.

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:39

@BigFatLiar When my in-laws died we all went to the grave on the anniversary.
Maybe you do all just ignore anniversaries of deaths then and carry on like it is a normal day? I am surprised. I rang my mum on the anniversary of my grandmothers death and on her birthday as I knew they were harder days for her. I friend whose husband died young from a heart attack, I always contact on his birthday and anniversary of his death as I know those are hard days for her. I just see it as a caring thing to do.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 28/08/2022 18:42

Those are not the same as exILs. They really aren't.

BigFatLiar · 28/08/2022 18:44

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:39

@BigFatLiar When my in-laws died we all went to the grave on the anniversary.
Maybe you do all just ignore anniversaries of deaths then and carry on like it is a normal day? I am surprised. I rang my mum on the anniversary of my grandmothers death and on her birthday as I knew they were harder days for her. I friend whose husband died young from a heart attack, I always contact on his birthday and anniversary of his death as I know those are hard days for her. I just see it as a caring thing to do.

We do visit but not especially on the day. We go along when there's something to tell or just to sit. I know they can't hear but it keeps them close We don't need a day set aside.

HappyHamsters · 28/08/2022 18:45

OP, what would you like the Queen and Charles to say.

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:45

So anniversaries of when someone died are meaningless and you all totally ignore them?

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 28/08/2022 18:48

Harry has already talked about how he wants the 25th death of his mothers death acknowledged.

Harry can acknowledge as he sees fit. As can William.

As can the Queen and Prince Charles.

People can grieve and mourn how they see fit.

It doesn’t need to be aired in public.

Although that doesn’t make for a frothy thread.

toomuchlaundry · 28/08/2022 18:49

I think an anniversary of a death is a private thing. Not sure DF would even be happy for me to acknowledge his death anniversary as he was all about the living and didn’t like big funeral, flowers on graves etc. I’m sure he would much rather think about the happier times and not be sad and mark the anniversary of his death

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/08/2022 18:53

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:45

So anniversaries of when someone died are meaningless and you all totally ignore them?

The 25th anniversary of your exDIL is meaningless, yes.

BigFatLiar · 28/08/2022 18:54

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:45

So anniversaries of when someone died are meaningless and you all totally ignore them?

Pretty much

Abraxan · 28/08/2022 18:55

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:39

@BigFatLiar When my in-laws died we all went to the grave on the anniversary.
Maybe you do all just ignore anniversaries of deaths then and carry on like it is a normal day? I am surprised. I rang my mum on the anniversary of my grandmothers death and on her birthday as I knew they were harder days for her. I friend whose husband died young from a heart attack, I always contact on his birthday and anniversary of his death as I know those are hard days for her. I just see it as a caring thing to do.

Did you then post on social media to tell everyone else about it?

That is the 'average' person's equivalent. And yes, it would be odd to post about and ex-wife/ex-dil's death that happened 25 years before.

MarshaMelrose · 28/08/2022 18:55

Maybe you do all just ignore anniversaries of deaths then and carry on like it is a normal day?

My dad died 7 years ago and I think of him every day. I love him so much. I take my mum's dog for a walk through the graveyard most days and have a chat with him. But if I'm not around on the anniversary of his death, I don't bother. I don't make a special trip. Our family don't go out or have a get together. I celebrate and miss him every day. And I still ask myself, what would dad do, to guide my actions. So the date itself is immaterial to me.

Abraxan · 28/08/2022 18:59

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:45

So anniversaries of when someone died are meaningless and you all totally ignore them?

I don't totally ignore a close relative or close friend's death, no. I acknowledge it to myself/dh, or may send my MIL a message of comfort. DH visits his mum for lunch on the anniversary of his dad's death - it was only two years ago so still quite recent. For my two grandma's who died in 2020 I did send my parents a message of comfort, last year but not this year (we were on holiday for both dates) - though they are both mentioned a lot when we talk anyway, not kept to just one day.

What I don't do is post on social media about them all.

And these people are not EX wives, relatives, etc who died a long time ago so a very very different dynamic.

JellyfishandShells · 28/08/2022 19:02

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:45

So anniversaries of when someone died are meaningless and you all totally ignore them?

Actually I don’t want other people reminding me of those dates - I choose to remember the good parts of my mother and father’s lives, not the ( separate ) days that they actually died which were difficult for different reasons.

All the family birth dates are firmly fixed in my mind and those are the days I remember, to myself, those who have gone.

Abraxan · 28/08/2022 19:03

We tend to remember the birthdays of people we have lost more here, or remember than during significant events such as Christmas, family weddings, big birthdays in the sense of 'oh, FIL would have loved to see this' type of way.

Date of deaths aren't the key dates for us. We don't really want to remember when we lost someone, more to remember their lives and happy events.

Again, for actual close relatives or friends, rather than ex-wives, ex-family who we were estranged from for a while beforehand, and it being 25 years since they died.

MissMarpleRocks · 28/08/2022 19:15

We (Greek Orthodox) mark family deaths in church for 7 years but some families do it for longer. I have a memorial next week for someone who died in 1974.

But would I mark the death of my ex DIL or ex H? Absolutely no I wouldn’t. Don’t know anyone who would.

As for Q or PoW making a public statement No just no. How inappropriate that would be. Make a private gesture to W or H then yes they may do.

Redglitter · 28/08/2022 19:47

i am finding it hard to believe that you all do not give a toss about the anniversary of a significant death to someone close to you

I think most people do care about their own families but in this case you're talking about an ex wife & ex DIL who died 25 years ago. That's completely different

I rang my mum on the anniversary of my grandmothers death and on her birthday as I knew they were harder days for her. I friend whose husband died young from a heart attack, I always contact on his birthday and anniversary of his death as I know those are hard days for her. I just see it as a caring thing to do

Again completely different circumstances. Would you call your friend (who was very happily remarried) if it was the 25th anniversary of the death of her ex husband, who she had a very acrimonious divorce from.

Isaidnoalready · 28/08/2022 19:56

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:45

So anniversaries of when someone died are meaningless and you all totally ignore them?

Correct, birthdays they are remembered and missed celebrate life not death

AlexandriasWindmill · 28/08/2022 20:07

There is a vast gulf between ignoring something and not putting out a public statement. Why are you continually putting up straw men?

This isn't about Diana or Harry or William or Charles or the Queen - it's about you. Perhaps it's time you stepped away from all the Royal threads and the goady threads and thought about why this is how you're spending your time.

Life is short and perhaps rather than using an anniversary to argue with strangers about the death of another stranger and the grief of yet more strangers, you should value your own time a bit more. Because this <waves hand round all your strawmen posts and your completely insensitive responses to posters sharing their own personal stories of loss and anniversaries> isn't the best you can do. Flowers

Starseeking · 28/08/2022 20:43

Diana was Charles' ex, and the Queen was her ex MIL, absolutely no need for either of them to make any public statements on the 25th anniversary. Diana died 25 years ago! ShockShockShock

Starseeking · 28/08/2022 20:58

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 17:41

@Kinneddar I am pretty taken aback that you think I would not be concerned if my children's father died just because I was no longer married to him. Of course, I would be concerned. Any mother who loves their children would be concerned. I certainly would never be - oh who was that again?
When you have children together an ex is never just an ex, you are always tied to them through your children and their death will inevitably affect your children.

The two DC of the marriage are either in, or close to, their forties now, hardly babes in arms!

Their Dad has also been married to his second wife (2005-date 17 years) for longer than he was married to their mum (1981-1992 separated 11 years, fully divorced 1996). Prince Charles really doesn't need to make any statement at all.

SenecaFallsRedux · 28/08/2022 21:13

Maybe you do all just ignore anniversaries of deaths then and carry on like it is a normal day?

Pretty much. I have sort of intentionally forgotten the dates that my parents and sister died. I had rather not relive those memories, especially the day that my sister died as it was unexpected and she was so young. I remember their birthdays, though, and think of them almost every day in countless small ways. Grief and remembrance are private matters, even ultimately with a public figure, and you can't prescribe how other people should honor those they have lost.