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Charles and Queen predicted to stay silent on 25th Diana anniversary

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antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:30

I know Diana was Charles ex, but she was the mother of his two sons. Surely they could just issue a joint bland statement acknowledging her untimely death and the impact on William and Harry?
To pretend it is not even happening would be pretty crass.

"Incredibly, however, the royal family has no plans to formally commemorate the 25th anniversary of the death of Princess Diana on Wednesday next week—illustrating, some would say, just how threatened they still are by her, even in death.
While her sons are widely expected to issue, at a minimum, online tributes, Prince Charles, who conducted an affair with his second wife, Camilla Parker Bowles, both before and throughout much of his marriage to Diana, which Diana publicly blamed for the collapse of their relationship, is likely to maintain radio silence."

www.thedailybeast.com/queen-elizabeth-and-prince-charles-have-no-plans-to-mark-25th-anniversary-of-princess-dianas-death

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Serenster · 28/08/2022 17:28

Someone needs to proofread before posting though entries to their website though.

I have no idea what this sentence means, but given it’s talking about people needing to proofread it has genuinely made me laugh. 😂

TauCeti · 28/08/2022 17:29

OP, judging by your numerous other threads on the topic, you obviously don't have a lot of time for the royal family, so I'm intrigued as to why you feel the need to come out to bat for Diana, when it seems to me like she shares many of the traits the other royals could be criticised for - profligacy, infidelity, unearned privilege, mental instability, hypocrisy...

BigFatLiar · 28/08/2022 17:32

Is this a thing that we do? Do we ha

Serenster · 28/08/2022 17:33

Googling I see he was a paternal cousin of the Queen, so was always destined to be a minor Royal

Well, he was the older brother of the current Duke of Gloucester - his early death meant that his younger brother Richard had to give up his career as an architect and together with his Danish wife Brigitte become full-time working royals to support their cousin the Queen. Something they have done for the last 50 years (and continue to do now).

As full-time working royals for 50 years, they are definitely not “minor”. Quite telling that you’ve never heard of them, though. I’m guessing your interest in the royal family is quite recent?

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 17:36

Serenster · 28/08/2022 17:28

Someone needs to proofread before posting though entries to their website though.

I have no idea what this sentence means, but given it’s talking about people needing to proofread it has genuinely made me laugh. 😂

Grin It does seem the rule that anyone talking about writing errors will inevitably make some of their own writing errors.

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Kinneddar · 28/08/2022 17:38

Would you expect your average person to give more than a fleeting thought about their ex partner or ex daughter in law 25 years after her death? I think it would be odd, un necessary & hypocritical if they did. After all this time who really cares other than William & Harry.

The OP seems to have some obsession with the RF you can almost guarantee any new RF will be from the same OP

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 17:39

Serenster · 28/08/2022 17:33

Googling I see he was a paternal cousin of the Queen, so was always destined to be a minor Royal

Well, he was the older brother of the current Duke of Gloucester - his early death meant that his younger brother Richard had to give up his career as an architect and together with his Danish wife Brigitte become full-time working royals to support their cousin the Queen. Something they have done for the last 50 years (and continue to do now).

As full-time working royals for 50 years, they are definitely not “minor”. Quite telling that you’ve never heard of them, though. I’m guessing your interest in the royal family is quite recent?

Queen Elizabeth has 31 first cousins. Of course, they are all minor Royals.

His younger brother did not have to give up his career, he chose to.

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antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 17:41

@Kinneddar I am pretty taken aback that you think I would not be concerned if my children's father died just because I was no longer married to him. Of course, I would be concerned. Any mother who loves their children would be concerned. I certainly would never be - oh who was that again?
When you have children together an ex is never just an ex, you are always tied to them through your children and their death will inevitably affect your children.

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derxa · 28/08/2022 17:42

The vicar should have made some small acknowledgement to the sons losing their mother. He wasn't a vicar but a minister in the Church of Scotland

Serenster · 28/08/2022 17:42

You’d never heard of Prince William and the circumstances of his death til minutes ago and now you’re confidentially telling us about his brother’s motivations for his choices? Priceless…

Serenster · 28/08/2022 17:43

*confidently, not confidentially (it’s catching 😂)

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 28/08/2022 17:46

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 16:42

No need. There are PR people who can do this well.

But who is this statement for? The public? Why do we need a statement from the Queen and Charles 25 years on? We had a statement drafted by a PR person at the time - what the Queen said ‘as your Queen and a grandmother, from my heart’ was actually written by Alistair Campbell. I don’t see any value in the Queen reading someone else’s words again. If William, as a senior member of the Royal family and, most importantly, Diana’s son, wants to do it, I’m sure he could. He and Harry have on many other occasions.

Is this statement for the media? PR guff written for outlets that regularly fill space with said PR guff? There’s plenty of other non-news out there.

If, as you suggest in another post, Harry wants the anniversary acknowledged somehow, why would he need it from an institution he actively distanced himself from? Neither he or nor his wife can do much as fart without it making the news - if he wanted a public tribute to his mother, he could have organised it, and without needing to adhere to Royal protocol either.

MarshaMelrose · 28/08/2022 17:47

bloodyplanes · 28/08/2022 13:43

OP you seem obsessed with charles? All the threads about him?

Antelope and Charles sitting in a tree
K - I - S - S - I - N - G. 😄

AnneShirleysNewDress · 28/08/2022 17:50

You don't issue a statment on the anniversary of your ex-wifes/DIL death. They should support William and Harry privately but that's all.

Kinneddar · 28/08/2022 17:53

When you have children together an ex is never just an ex, you are always tied to them through your children and their death will inevitably affect your children

But after 25 years when your children are married with families of their own & you've been remarried you'd hardly be likely to do anything more than check in with your children & acknowledge the day with them.

I doubt anyone would do anything more than that. And that's very probably what Charles will do.

For your average Joe, publicly acknowledging it would be something like posting on fb & let's face it it would be downright weird if you saw a friend posting something to commemorate the death of an expartner from 25 years ago when everyone knew they had an acrimonious break up and a miserable marriage & for their Mum to post would be even weirder

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 28/08/2022 17:53

Why are you so obsessed with the RF? Do you have too much time on your hands?

Kedece2410 · 28/08/2022 17:53

MarshaMelrose · 28/08/2022 17:47

Antelope and Charles sitting in a tree
K - I - S - S - I - N - G. 😄

😂😂😂 that made me laugh more than it should

CPL593H · 28/08/2022 17:54

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 17:41

@Kinneddar I am pretty taken aback that you think I would not be concerned if my children's father died just because I was no longer married to him. Of course, I would be concerned. Any mother who loves their children would be concerned. I certainly would never be - oh who was that again?
When you have children together an ex is never just an ex, you are always tied to them through your children and their death will inevitably affect your children.

I remember that strange week very clearly. I actually liked Diana and think she was (as a 19 year old) sold a pup as far as that marriage went. However, from what I remember in the aftermath of her death Charles behaved well and organised a lot, even (apparently) nicking a Royal standard to cover her coffin when it came back.

I'm not sure what he's meant to do now? Some sort of extremely belated Cersei Lannister penance walk?

NanaNelly · 28/08/2022 17:57

My mum died tragically just weeks after Diana and we don’t even mention the anniversary to each other now. It’s very much just our own private thoughts on the day.

We do still (with much fanfare) stick a special Christmas star on top of he tree in memory of her and all of my children had significant favors and decorations at their wedding in her memory just so she wouldn’t feel left out.

But her Anniversary? No. it’s not mentioned.

CPL593H · 28/08/2022 17:57

*Baratheon, but , y'know.

Serenster · 28/08/2022 17:59

Of the Queen’s 31 first cousins (you must be including cousins on the Bowes Lyon’s side who are never considered part of the Royal family, and likewise Princess Mary’s 2 children) she only had 7 first cousins who were, like her, grandchildren of George V:

  • the 3 children of Prince George the Duke of Kent ( Edward, Alexandra and Michael)
  • the two sons of Prince Henry the Duke of Gloucester (William and Richard)
  • the two daughters of Princess Mary (George and Gerald Lascelles)

Of these, only Edward (later the Duke of Kent), Princess Alexandra and Richard (later the Duke of Gloucester) became working royals. All three are Knights of the Garter - the only royal family members other than the Queen’s children and William who are appointed to this role (Camilla from this year also).They also have their own pages on the Royal family website. So no, very much not minor royals.

www.royal.uk/the-duke-of-kent
www.royal.uk/princess-alexandra
www.royal.uk/the-duke-of-gloucester

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:08

Okay I believe you but I have never heard of him.
I have heard of the Duke of Kent and Princess Alexandria and would recognise them both.

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NewJobSoNewName · 28/08/2022 18:10

We don't make a thing of 'death days' in our family. I think it's weird and morbid.

And I wouldn't expect the royals to.

Birthdays or wedding anniversaries etc yes.

WinnieTheW0rm · 28/08/2022 18:14

Princes William and Harry have both let be known that their remembrances this year will be private.

In light of that, of course there will be nothing public from others in the Royal family (ie her ex and former in-laws. I don't know what the Spencers - her "blood family" might do, but their remembrances are usually private so I wouldn't expect that to change)

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 18:18

NewJobSoNewName · 28/08/2022 18:10

We don't make a thing of 'death days' in our family. I think it's weird and morbid.

And I wouldn't expect the royals to.

Birthdays or wedding anniversaries etc yes.

It is not death days, that is a frankly strange phrase.
I contact friends and close relatives in anniversaries of important deaths. I am finding it hard to believe that you all do not give a toss about the anniversary of a significant death to someone close to you.

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