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Palace not publishing bullying review claims…

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DFOD · 30/06/2022 14:00

amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/30/palace-not-publish-review-bullying-claims-meghan

What do we think is going on here?

  1. There something to hide - either against Palace or MM?
  2. There was nothing irregular against Palace or MM?
  3. Both parties need to leave sleeping dogs lie?
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MissMarpleRocks · 01/07/2022 10:28

I think the Palace are in a no win situation here.

Publish & they are attacked for employee breach of confidentiality or don’t publish & accused of a cover up.

I suspect at some point there will be various leaks from the Palace & the Sussexes both putting their version of events. The truth will be somewhere in the middle most likely.

Was Meghan a bully? Or was it a culture clash & differences in expectation? I doubt we will ever really know 🤷🏻‍♀️

FootontheHeartbreak · 01/07/2022 10:29

There are many posters who just will not countenance any other motive at all for questioning anything about Meghan apart from racism. Apparently she is completely immune from criticism because she has one parent who is black.
I wonder if that extends to all other mixed race people on the planet?

cannibalvalley · 01/07/2022 10:31

I think they found no bullying had happened, and find it too embarrassing to release the report.

Ohthatsexciting · 01/07/2022 10:32

Nothing sinister about this at all

it is very normal not to release details of such a report

NippyWoowoo · 01/07/2022 10:32

MoChridhe · 30/06/2022 14:29

If Meghan had been found to be the bully they would have been broadcasting it on loud speaker from all hill tops. They found nothing on her and are too embarrassed to say so.

This

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LondonWolf · 01/07/2022 10:35

cannibalvalley · 01/07/2022 10:31

I think they found no bullying had happened, and find it too embarrassing to release the report.

I agree with this.

cannibalvalley · 01/07/2022 10:35

Of course it is not normal not to release at least the conclusions of the report.
Nobody is asking for statements that staff gave.
But it is normal to say for example,there was no evidence of bullying. Or there was clear bullying and this is what we are doing. Or the only evidence of bullying was that Meghan was being bullied.
This is not being said because there was no bullying and it is embarrassing for them to admit that they lied in press briefings.

hatchyu · 01/07/2022 10:38

There are many posters who just will not countenance any other motive at all for questioning anything about Meghan apart from racism.

There's a lot to criticise Meghan for but I don't think that's where the racism angle is. The racism is that she is held up to a different standard. She might be spoilt, materialistic, entitled etc so what? Sounds very typical for celebrities or Royals.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/07/2022 10:42

If Meghan had been found to be the bully they would have been broadcasting it ...

Bearing in mind the armageddon that could incite from California I wouldn't want to assume it, though I'm another who's surprised Meghan hasn't placed stories about the report having found her to be blameless

Possibly it's still to come, or maybe they're all trading deals around who's going to say what, what consequenes could follow, and whose actions are next in line to be covered up - on past form it would sound about right

Samcro · 01/07/2022 10:58

hatchyu · 01/07/2022 10:38

There are many posters who just will not countenance any other motive at all for questioning anything about Meghan apart from racism.

There's a lot to criticise Meghan for but I don't think that's where the racism angle is. The racism is that she is held up to a different standard. She might be spoilt, materialistic, entitled etc so what? Sounds very typical for celebrities or Royals.

good post.
so agree

StartupRepair · 01/07/2022 12:13

I think it is sensible of the Palace to keep it locked down. Harry and Meghan are very quick to sue. It will not benefit anyone least of all the employees to have it all rehashed in court.

notanotheroneagain · 01/07/2022 12:48

cannibalvalley · 01/07/2022 10:35

Of course it is not normal not to release at least the conclusions of the report.
Nobody is asking for statements that staff gave.
But it is normal to say for example,there was no evidence of bullying. Or there was clear bullying and this is what we are doing. Or the only evidence of bullying was that Meghan was being bullied.
This is not being said because there was no bullying and it is embarrassing for them to admit that they lied in press briefings.

Exactly !

So far the victim names have stayed hidden for over a year and can remain so, to say they are protecting them is a cop out.
They clearly and stupidly came out with this to smear her name and indeed would shout it from the roof tops if she were guilty.

Also, it doesn't hold water to say that they are suddenly investigating their HR processes, when for years on end other royals have been accused of bullying, and no HR processes were evaluated then. What is it about this particular royal that made them suddenly grow a conscience.

It makes them look bad whatever.

bevelino · 01/07/2022 12:53

MoChridhe · 30/06/2022 14:29

If Meghan had been found to be the bully they would have been broadcasting it on loud speaker from all hill tops. They found nothing on her and are too embarrassed to say so.

This

Also the DM were absolutely salivating at the prospect of printing the story in order to feed their Meghan haters. Furthermore, DM, without a doubt would skew the story to generate as much hate against Meghan as possible. This could quite easily lead to a scenario where Meghan tells Oprah her version on national television; and it is obvious why the palace wish to avoid any chance of that happening.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/07/2022 13:25

it is very normal not to release details of such a report

I know, Ohthatsexciting, and a PP explained the principle far better than I could, but if there was any remaining doubt as to why you only have to look at all the posts suggesting folk know what's been found, that it's "obvious" why such-and-such happened and so on

It'll probably be said that publishing would settle this, but given the tsunami of online imaginings that would follow I can't see it myself - and that's without whatever H&M may choose to say

As said, it's possible that the palace have decided to let sleeping dogs lie this time, and for once I can't say I'd blame them if that was so

Aspiringmatriarch · 01/07/2022 13:31

I think if they'd found evidence of bullying they would either leak it or find a very roundabout way to say so in their statement.

bloodyplanes · 01/07/2022 14:16

I think they are keeping it as leverage against M&H if they start their tall tales again. It may also be used as leverage against H if he publishes awful things about the Royals in his forthcoming book. There is definitely something in it and id say the media knows much of the content as they are ramping up the articles about it and heavily speculating about it.

Serenster · 01/07/2022 14:22

cannibalvalley · 01/07/2022 10:35

Of course it is not normal not to release at least the conclusions of the report.
Nobody is asking for statements that staff gave.
But it is normal to say for example,there was no evidence of bullying. Or there was clear bullying and this is what we are doing. Or the only evidence of bullying was that Meghan was being bullied.
This is not being said because there was no bullying and it is embarrassing for them to admit that they lied in press briefings.

Just for clarity - no, absolutely none of what you set out above is normal in a private and confidential investigation into employee conduct issues.

Generally you can’t even tell the complainant what the decision was, and what, if any, action has been taken (unless it can be inferred from subsequent actions - like someone’s role or location changes - that’s sometimes inevitably the case)

Samcro · 01/07/2022 14:23

I doubt if they will ever publish it. it was interesting that on the news it mentioned the lack of diversity in the palace.
wonder if they will look into that so keenly

Changedmynamefor · 01/07/2022 14:29

Publishing it, regardless of the result, gives H&M an opportunity for content. I think BP is going grey rock, particularly given that there are Netflix cameras involved now.

MarshaMelrose · 01/07/2022 14:35

FootontheHeartbreak · 30/06/2022 20:02

Or they don’t want to be embarrassed by admitting she was a bully. Imagine the repercussions from the Sussexes !

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Maybe they came to some sort of agreement when they visited the Queen. The Palace won't badmouth them if they stop badmouthing the Palace. Seems fair.

MarshaMelrose · 01/07/2022 14:36

Samcro · 01/07/2022 14:23

I doubt if they will ever publish it. it was interesting that on the news it mentioned the lack of diversity in the palace.
wonder if they will look into that so keenly

They've already acknowledged this a while back and advertised for staff accordingly.

SammyScrounge · 01/07/2022 14:42

Milkonesugarplease · 30/06/2022 14:22

If it had been me and I was cleared of bullying I would insist that the report be published or I would make a statement. She and Harry like making statements but have been silent about this .
I think BP have decided that keeping the peace is a better option . I wonder if those who were allegedly bullied feel the same?

Could it be a warning to Harry not to fill his upcoming book with slurs against the RF? If he does dish dirt, that report might well be leaked...

queenofarles · 01/07/2022 14:46

What do people think of Richard Kay’s " maybe there is nothing but there is something piece in the DM?