£102 million of taxpayers money

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Spent on the Royals last year.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/record-100m-taxpayer-payout-royal-27360820.amp

@PaperDoves
Is this the simple 'privately owned ' little estate you are referring to ?

amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/05/duchy-of-cornwall-tax-prince-wales-charles

Nothing wrong with educating myself about things I don't know about? Gosh, I hope not. I would hate to be stuck with whatever faux-facts that random strangers post on the internet.

Questioning what? Whether the royals pay for themselves? Whether we should seize their property and lop off their heads? Whether monarchies as an institution should exist? If I don't support the royal family am I also obligated to believe that they cost us poor taxpayers money, or am I allowed to believe both that monarchies are outdated but also that they're a net contributor to public funds? Do I have to be angry? Or can I just rely on facts rather than non-facts that suit my rage?

It's good that you are questioning all this .

Now start to think about ownership of the land .
In what sense do they own it ?
Because their ancestors stole it first ?

If one argues for abolition of the monarchy, where does the buck stop? What about those who inherit a shit ton of land, money, social networks, and other privileges denied to most? What about those who inherit a moderate amount and get up the housing ladder as a result of their ancestors?
No capitalist system is fair with any kind of inheritance system in place, but at least the monarchy is a net positive to the poorest in our society.

How exactly is the monarchy a net postive for the poorest ?

And the money , important though it is, is a side show compared to the royal political influence we are now learning about.

https://fullfact.org/news/royal-family-are-we-getting-our-moneys-worth/

Have you read that link creamed custard?
It doesn't support the frequent 'tourism ' claims re royals .

When your are diagnosed with cancer or some awful disease, you will choke on your words.

Well of course.
I didnt think livingonanislands crass post was even worthy of a response

Now this we may agree on!

You do know that any NEW Monarch within days of becoming King/Queen signs to say they are willing to let the Crown Estates continue to be managed by the Government and not revert back to the Crown.

Also rather a lot of people have to die before Andrew could get his hands on a Crown!
The other thing about tourism, London was booked out for the Jubilee, which meant food and drink was sold, transport profited, shops selling little trinkets did well and in general rather a lot of money was made, all because OUR Queen who most people respect was around.

You do know the Crown Estate also looks after all the beaches around the UK

They issue paid for leases and licences for various activities and enterprises.

They'll let you organise beach cleanups without formal permission though.

Parliament and loads of Government Buildings in London are RENT FREE

Well you wouldn't expect the government to pay itself rent. Only the future king manages this bit of creative accounting although his brothers have managed very sweet leasing deals on their palatial abodes.

the Crown Estates pay for the Entire MP salaries as was the Agreement . This would cost Billions to cover

The agreement was that the income from the Crown Estate was handed over to release the royals from the financial burden of the entire costs of running the country. Excellent deal for them.

You do know that any NEW Monarch within days of becoming King/Queen signs to say they are willing to let the Crown Estates continue to be managed by the Government and not revert back to the Crown

Of course they do. See above.

Also rather a lot of people have to die before Andrew could get his hands on a Crown!

But for an accident of birth order we'd be looking at the future coronation of King Andrew right now and nothing to be done about it.

The other thing about tourism, London was booked out for the Jubilee, which meant food and drink was sold, transport profited, shops selling little trinkets did well and in general rather a lot of money was made, all because OUR Queen who most people respect was around

You'd need to sell quite a few Slush Puppies and Buckingham Palace snowstorm globes to raise enough tax to cover the costs of the jubilee circus.

shops selling little trinkets did well

Our problems are solved: a trinket-fuelled economy! Let's destroy the planet with more useless tat.

While there are many picture perfect beaches the what about the ones no one wants or can swim at they still need care an attention, that costs money too.
The argument of birth, ha ha so funny as Andrew isn't the heir, nor ever will be, so a strawman argument.
Yet again the Jubilee was paid for with the profits from the Crown Estates. Not one person here paid for it, so yes any money spent in London was extra income for all those in buisness, have you not seen the traders saying how pleased they were for this Extra income.

From the CE website:

We manage around half of the foreshore (the land between mean high and mean low water mark) around England, Wales and Northern Ireland

No mention of maintaining the rest some of which falls under the remit of the Environment Agency.

Andrew isn't the heir, nor ever will be, so a strawman argument

Not really. The point you're missing is that with a hereditary monarchy you have no choice but to get the next one along whether they're a paragon of virtue (unlikely any time soon) or a morally bankrupt buffoon.

Yet again the Jubilee was paid for with the profits from the Crown Estates. Not one person here paid for it

Rishi Sunak allocated £28m for jubilee celebrations in the 2021 budget.

Not true, where do you think the CE gets its money from. Property management, exploiting tenants, rent hikes etc. We all pay indirectly for small business closures and high streets disappearing. This level of greed is just not sustainable, the CE estates have squeezed the lemon too hard and now their profits are falling. www.independent.co.uk/business/treasury-set-for-smaller-payday-as-crown-estate-profit-drops-by-a-fifth-b1871727.html

The Budget includes the profit from the Crown Estates. So yes they did pay for it.
Because that means they gave a gross payment of x but it was y as a net profit.

How much do you think a President would cost? I'd bet not much difference. French Presidency averages 100 million euros a year.

Oh shock horror the Crown Estates is run a business. Wow.
So let's give it all back to Charles when the Queen dies and the Government can bankroll themselves and WE can pick up the bill. Reckon it will be more than £2 each.

There are swings and roundabouts but we do get value for money , as pointed out the true costs covered by the Queen are fair value considering SHE is paying into the budget not an expense on the Country

I dont know why people get so frothy about this if the monarchy was abolished tomorrow they woukd still have enough personal property and money to lead the life they do now except they would tell us to fuck off and do what they wanted rather than what we expected

@Isaidnoalready really?

So their current 'work' is done purely from the goodness of their hearts?

You are naive in the extreme .

Bags of cash anyone ?

Shock horror Bollinger if the 'crown' estates and duchys faced the same tax and inheritance rules as the rest of us you may have a point .
But they don't . They use their unearned power to protect their own interests .
Got that yet ? There have been enough links posted