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Queen has covid

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JustLyra · 20/02/2022 12:07

Buckingham Palace has announced.

Mild “cold like” symptoms apparently, but I bet there’s a lot of worried courtiers and politicians right now!

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Monopolyiscrap · 20/02/2022 18:21

I doubt the Queen would qualify. But as the Queen she will get the best treatment available.

Joystir59 · 21/02/2022 17:26

I've just connected to how incredibly sad I'm going to feel when the Queen dies. And I'm staunchly anti royalist. She is described by the BBC as "considerably thinner and frailer than she was last year". I struggle with the inevitability of death.

Octomore · 21/02/2022 18:01

@queenofarles

What is is the good stuff ? Confused Is there medication only royalty, rich can get?
There is expensive medication that wealthy people can access quickly without having to meet NHS criteria. Of course there is - this can't be a surprise, surely?

The NHS criteria linked upthread only applies to NHS patients.

Octomore · 21/02/2022 18:02

@Monopolyiscrap

I doubt the Queen would qualify. But as the Queen she will get the best treatment available.
The queen will be treated privately. NHS qualification criteria for medication will therefore be irrelevant.
nether · 21/02/2022 18:07

Are the new treatments available privately?

They're in global short supply, and I'm not sure they have made it to supply chains outside the national one

ChateauMargaux · 21/02/2022 18:27

The Queen uses homeopathy.....

Joystir59 · 21/02/2022 19:28

The Queen is incredibly wealthy, she will have access to the best possible health care.

Monopolyiscrap · 21/02/2022 19:33

No I did not think you could buy the relevant medicine privately as it is in global short supply.
I am sure if I wanted to buy various treatments that are proven to reduce the impact of covid, I could not.
But the same rules do not apply to the Queen.

Abraxan · 21/02/2022 19:57

@SandysMam

I don’t think the Queen has to stick to NHS guidelines, she will be getting the good stuff for sure!
Anyone of a certain age or who is particularly clinically vulnerable can access the antiviral medication quickly and fairly easily. At present it does require a PCR and needs to be given by day 5 of symptoms starting and/or confirmed PCR (if no symptoms.)

So even if she wasn't the queen she'd have been quickly eligible for an antiviral infusion to reduce the risk of serious illness. When I went for my infusion there was a steady stream of much older people going to the clinic for theirs, all freely (at point of service) available.

So, regardless of her status then she'd be getting the same antiviral treatment, which I assume she's probably had. There isn't really much more treatment they can give for milder symptoms.

I suspect they've also mentioned that she is doing 'light duties' to 'prove' that she isn't particularly ill with symptoms at this time.

Worth mentioning, for information:
If someone isn't automatically eligible, anyone over 50 plus anyone in the CV group can apply for the trial too - 50% who apply are given antiviral treatment with diary, 50% just have the diary to complete. You do need a confirmed positive PCR though and be within 5 days of it starting.

Abraxan · 21/02/2022 19:59

@SandysMam

There are a range of antivirals that prevent serious illness if taken early on. For us mere mortals it would probably take weeks to get through the hoops to access these if needed. She won’t have those problems.
Not the case and, infact, you can't wait that long for them. See my previous post.

Most eligible people have already been sent a PCR kit to have at home, in case they believe they might have it. I didn't have one, but I was able to get a PCR early the next morning, results back to me that evening. I had an antiviral infusion within 5 days as recommended.

Weefreetiffany · 21/02/2022 20:05

I feel so cynical about this. The public are not happy she bailed out Andrew to the tune of 12 million. Now suddenly she’s ill so it would be poor taste to criticise her. What better way to turn the public mood back to one of sympathy. While I hope the Queen and everyone suffering from covid recovers quickly, it doesn’t cancel out her responsibility for spending tax money to cover up a gross crime.

Dammitthisisshit · 21/02/2022 20:20

You can access some of the treatments through the panoramic trial if you’re over 50 or have a high risk condition. So she could legitimately get them that way. My understanding is that they are not available privately. But I’m sure they will allow the Queen them. Same as when Boris was in hospital he wasn’t treated like a ‘standard’ patient (own room /higher staffing levels)

@throughtheair hope your DH was ok - I don’t understand why diabetes isn’t on the list - I’m hoping it’s a medical not financial reason.

Seemslikeagoodidea · 21/02/2022 20:25

@Weefreetiffany I don't think anyone has any proof that the Queen has bailed out Andrew. Even if she has, the Queen has plenty of money from sources beside the amount she gets from the public purse, so I don't think your assertion holds weight really.

The Queen may not survive Covid, so it's understandable that people will discuss the fact that her reign may end fairly soon. It will seem very strange when that day comes, but it is inevitable.

I don't think A's dodgy behaviour should reflect on the Queen, she should not be tarnished by his poor decisions.

throughtheair · 21/02/2022 20:53

@Dammitthisisshit thank you, it absolutely floored him for a few days but was thankfully mild in the sense that he didn't need any medical attention...we think the vaccines did their job!

Sadly I do think it's financial reasons. When the antivirals were first approved, there were news articles with quotes from Diabetes UK saying how marvellous it was and how great it was going to be for diabetics. But then diabetes didn't make the list.

Monopolyiscrap · 21/02/2022 22:37

@Dammitthisisshit

You can access some of the treatments through the panoramic trial if you’re over 50 or have a high risk condition. So she could legitimately get them that way. My understanding is that they are not available privately. But I’m sure they will allow the Queen them. Same as when Boris was in hospital he wasn’t treated like a ‘standard’ patient (own room /higher staffing levels)

@throughtheair hope your DH was ok - I don’t understand why diabetes isn’t on the list - I’m hoping it’s a medical not financial reason.

No I am over 50 and CEV and not eligible. Only a very small cohort of the most vulnerable are eligible. The Queen would not be eligible. Except she is the Queen, so will get the,.
Monopolyiscrap · 21/02/2022 22:38

@Seemslikeagoodidea if the taxpayers were not paying, they would have said that.

Dammitthisisshit · 21/02/2022 23:22

@Monopolyiscrap the panoramic trial is different to the availability for the CEV. I’m CEV and on the list for antivirals if I get Covid (fortunately… or unfortunately depending how you look at it). But the criteria for the panoramic trial isn’t as strict. That said I don’t know what criteria they use to accept you on the trial… just what the criteria to apply is.

Though we don’t even know that the Queen is on the antivirals!

Whether she is properly ill or not we won’t know unless she’s ill enough to be taken into hospital. She has definitely aged a lot in the last year though.

Monopolyiscrap · 21/02/2022 23:25

@Dammitthisisshit the panoramic trial is stricter than ecv. It only applies to about 100,000 people.

Monopolyiscrap · 21/02/2022 23:29

Okay sorry I was not thinking of the panoramic trail but those who have been told they will get antivirals. I had not even heard of the panoramic trial. I read the newspapers every day and watch BBC news every day, so I doubt most people have heard about it.

OneSwallow · 21/02/2022 23:51

@jytdtysrht

The good stuff is what you get when you are critical in ICU like my db was. Allsorts - antivirals, survivors plasma etc - everything they had. She won't need to get as ill as the rest of us to access all that.
Yes my brother had exactly the same. Critical in ICU.
sandgrown · 21/02/2022 23:59

My friends were both CEV with different conditions. When they caught Covid he was eligible for an antiviral infusion but she wasn’t . It’s down to the conditions people have.

Roussette · 22/02/2022 06:54

I don't think anyone has any proof that the Queen has bailed out Andrew
Every single news report says she did. To what extent we dont know. I've also read this morning that Charles chipped in too.

I don't think A's dodgy behaviour should reflect on the Queen, she should not be tarnished by his poor decisions

Yes it jolly well should! She was the only one who could've reined him in years ago, and then the Monarchy wouldn't be in this mess. His aides tried to curb his excesses, he told them to eff off and he was only answerable to HMQ. So yes... it does reflect on her somewhat.

As far as COVID, I wish her well, as much as I would any other elderly person. I'm sure she is getting the very best care available and she will be monitored continuously.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 22/02/2022 07:06

at least it happened now, not two years ago, as far as we know

rwalker · 22/02/2022 07:11

Zero interest in the royals but as with any 95 yearold wish her a good recovery .
My dad shocking health came out of hospital on end of life ( 18 months ago) .
bounced back from covid in 5 days

nether · 22/02/2022 07:11

Anyone of a certain age or who is particularly clinically vulnerable can access the antiviral medication quickly and fairly easily

Nope - no age criteria - see link above with eligibility criteria - it's the critically vulnerable immune suppressed group, plus some CEV.

PANORAMIC trial is what you try if you're not in the eligible group, you need to be over 50 or younger with a qualifying underlying medical condition. Then it's 50/50 whether you get an antiviral drug or the control

digital.nhs.uk/coronavirus/panoramic-trial